North America's Hate for Giants.

• Blassreiter wrote on 2010-11-08 02:10

  Quote from Gintouki;208081:

  I just love how all the Design Contest items that aren't robes or Weapons.. are Elf/Human only.... bah
  I guess I'll just stick to my Aladdin outfit.

  
  
  Not to mention that some of the designers wanted it to be Human/Elf only. If I had skill in equipment designing, I would make it interracial, of course not Bows and Heavy Armors since Giants cant use Bows and Elves cant have Heavy.
  
  Giants can be mage, don't know who said they fail at magic. I'm already good in melee yet I can Fireball a 5k. I just need the AP so my magic/MP becomes more stronger.
  
  

  Quote from Gargamaru;207234:

  screw getting more clothing then. Give giants two-dozen more types of armor and ill be happy. Better helmets too, jeeze.

  
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  This, also More Equipment Combination sets. Stone Immunity and MP Reduction anyone?
  
  
  Also, GET RID OF THE STUPID THROWING ATTACK COOLDOWN. Then I'll be happy.
• Okitaru wrote on 2010-11-08 03:51
  Throwing attack rF and no cooldown would be OP. It'd need a nerf in which case then it'd fail...
  
  The Contests not having any giant entries that were good was REALLY sad, nothing to say there.
• NotAnElf wrote on 2010-11-08 03:57

  Quote from Blassreiter;208115:

  
  Also, GET RID OF THE STUPID THROWING ATTACK COOLDOWN. Then I'll be happy.

  
  Lets get rid of the cooldown on final shot, final hit, shock, hide, and windguard as well!!!
• soheikitsune wrote on 2010-11-08 04:17

  Quote from Gintouki;208081:

  I just love how all the Design Contest items that aren't robes or Weapons.. are Elf/Human only.... bah
  I guess I'll just stick to my Aladdin outfit.

  
  
  For what it counts, if any of my designs won, Giants would be able to wear it. They have gotten the short end of the stick a lot and I feel they really deserve something special, like regular clothes that look nice. Not like the whole "giants are too big" thing will really pan out to everything. If so then why can they wear Selina Sexy Bares? Because its magical clothing and so it can magically stretch? Then they should be able to wear all the magical clothing too.
• Okitaru wrote on 2010-11-08 04:18

  Quote from NotAnElf;208231:

  Lets get rid of the cooldown on final shot, final hit, shock, hide, and windguard as well!!!

  
  
  I second this. lmao.
• Everwanderer wrote on 2010-11-08 04:29

  Quote from NotAnElf;208231:

  Lets get rid of the cooldown on final shot, final hit, shock, hide, and windguard as well!!!

  
  
  Mkes sense having them on "final" skills though, Throwing attack is just giant's range attack.
• Blassreiter wrote on 2010-11-08 06:22

  Quote from Chuugoku;208218:

  Throwing attack rF and no cooldown would be OP. It'd need a nerf in which case then it'd fail...
  
  The Contests not having any giant entries that were good was REALLY sad, nothing to say there.

  
  
  So Rank F Elf Magnum is not OP? 1 second load time, with long range, long stun time, knockback, injury, able to be used with Final Shot is not OP? Even Rank F Elf Range is OP especially with Zero Shot. Heck, even rank F Support Shot is more OP than Rank F Throw because you can lock the enemies on place indefinitely with a 1~10% chance miss. Also Throwing Attack misses a lot more often than you think. When enemies run, the accuracy of Throw actually drops. Because I've never missed a stationary (stuck between an obstacle) enemy, only mobile ones.
  
  Throwing Attack isn't as powerful as many people think it is. You need the strength for it to be powerful just as you need the Dex for range to be powerful. Go compare the damage between 1 Rank F Throw with 2 Rank F Elf Range (since their load time is .3 seconds, also consider zero shot or SoG) and the damage is not far apart. The least I believe the developers should do is to make Throw have a 5 second cooldown or something, Throw is already plagued with the inability to knock down/back which makes training impossible without the Everyone Finish thing. What if someday they took off the All Finish thing because it was being exploited by bots or something, now what?
• Intaine wrote on 2010-11-08 08:18
  Regardless of throwing attacks damage per hit, its cool down means its DPS will ultimately be lower than... well anything almost -_-
• jking012 wrote on 2010-11-08 11:42
  i agree with said 5 sec cooldown... (and even then it still wont make up the dmg that it lacks via elf mag spam :D)
  
  
  FYI: you cant upgrade atatl's or make them ... nuff said... :/
  
  on topic of giants again and being hated... ide like to add
  
  w/o spending TONS or a SHI ton load of money more then human/elf we cant wear
  
  -Raven Boots
  -Abysmal shield/training (with throw, only case)
  -racoon cub (DONT GET ME STARTED-epic fail for giants Q_Q )
  
  thats all for now
• Username wrote on 2010-11-08 12:24

  Quote from jking012;208512:

  i agree with said 5 sec cooldown... (and even then it still wont make up the dmg that it lacks via elf mag spam :D)
  
  
  FYI: you cant upgrade atatl's or make them ... nuff said... :/
  
  on topic of giants again and being hated... ide like to add
  
  w/o spending TONS or a SHI ton load of money more then human/elf we cant wear
  
  -Raven Boots
  -Abysmal shield/training (with throw, only case)
  -racoon cub (DONT GET ME STARTED-epic fail for giants Q_Q )
  
  thats all for now

  
  Last time i remember; Giants could hold Cooking Pots. An Abysmal Shield is very scarce to non-existant; So thats why Abysmal is put on Cooking pots. All races can use it. (Pretty sure)
• Chihaya wrote on 2010-11-08 12:37
  If Nexon really hated on Giants, they wouldn't have the Giant Renewal Event, no? =/
  A lot of us are being a bit too greedy about many things; all race has their advantages and disadvantages that we need to recognize and accept, not QQ about it
• jking012 wrote on 2010-11-08 13:46
  @Usernanme
  
  I said to being using shield abysmal with throw attk :P dont mistake my words pls thx...
  and technically speaking at least from abysmal standpoint... a cooking pot is a shield too (enchant wise)
  
  and we cant use it with wind guard either (unless you made an actual abysmal shield, gl on that) :/ so much for this and that
• Zid wrote on 2010-11-08 17:47

  Quote from Blassreiter;208115:

  Also, GET RID OF THE STUPID THROWING ATTACK COOLDOWN. Then I'll be happy.

  
  
  It's not that bad. I have a Giant friend who's actually quite happy with the revamp Throwing Attack has, as she doesn't use long-range attack much in combat, so the 25 second cooldown is okay with her. Burst of damage instead of continuous over time.
  
  Don't get me wrong though. The 25 second cooldown still makes Giant Ranged have much worse DPS and utility than Elf Melee. This is also not factoring in race speed (i.e. a Ranged Elf can run away from/avoid danger much better than Ranged Giants, even if people think Giants should be frontal). And removing cooldown on Throwing Attack is not even close to being related as removing cool down on other skills that have it, as Throwing Attack's usefulness-to-cooldown ratio is far lower than those other skills.
  
  Also, if developer's standpoint > all, we shouldn't be able to have strong Elf Melee players in the first place. It doesn't make sense to restrict Giant's aesthetics at all, no matter how you look at it.
• Crimmy wrote on 2010-11-08 17:51

  Quote from Intaine;208489:

  Regardless of throwing attacks damage per hit, its cool down means its DPS will ultimately be lower than... well anything almost -_-

  
  
  This. Throwing shouldn't even be compared to any Final skills or heck, any actual range skills. It's a single hit. Then you have to wait 25 seconds to use it again. In that time you could be smashing 5 or 6 times. Without at least 200 Str to back it up, the damage is pathetic. I have yet to see any giant actually use it in a challenging dungeon (Ciar Adv, HM's) because it's not efficient. You can try using the skill and then countering and then wming but the cooldown still isn't done. That's what we're complaining about. At least with the original Throwing Attack, you could easily throw + counter/wm.
  
  Obviously some of you don't play a giant so I'll give an example as to why so many giants can't stand the cooldown: YouTube - Mabinogi: the most boring video in the world
  
  Yeah look at our amazing range skill gaiz.
• Bayushi wrote on 2010-11-08 19:00
  hasn't anyone ever noticed how most of the giant armours in the game are gacha only, and ever even rare to get?