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Knightmehre wrote on 2010-11-17 16:27
WARRRRNIIIIIINGGGGGG
Before reading on, know that what I am to show you may look like cheating, but I can assure you it is not because you're just taking advantage of what the enchant has to offer anyways.
Background
So a couple of months ago, I decided that since my windmill was at crap rank 8, i would rank it to 1 so that I could actually catch up with all the other 1k people who were grinding a minimum of 60, while I barely got 50. It all started when I was in Their Method Basic, and I was grinding with stock Glads to proff as repairs for my ego. I had my ego and a Goddess Obsidian enchant on one weapon set, and on the others I had fresh two glads. I realized I ran out of stam pretty quick thanks to my fail windmill and me not bundling targets together. Basically i was trying to sit down (which was hotkeyed as number 1 since my skill tab was on life) and I accidentally pressed TAB to switch weapons. Realizing that I somehow gotten 25 stam, I immediately finished that mob with the weapon set.
Initial Testing
Basically, after testing a little bit here is what I came up with.
+ Stamina Enchants on weapon slots can refresh your stamina as far as it gives foer the weapon (for example Energetic gives +50 stam per weapon) when you switch to another weapon slot with weapons without + Stamina Enchants or no weapons at all.
Stamina EnchantsThanks to abc33kr for the list :)
Anyways, here are the enchants used for the stamina method
Maximum Stamina
Cypress (-100) Healer (-20)
for a total of -120.
Dual that and it is -240.
Affordable Stamina
Intricate (-20) Healer (-20)
for a total of -40.
Dual that and it is -80.
Careful (-30) Prefix for shield. It is a reward from Rabbie adv. add healer (-20) to this
for a total of -50.
Wield it with intricate healer and it is -90.
And if the person using it doesn't have enchant rC, then he/she can use tired man, which is (-15~-10) and comes from black grizzly bears (about 5% chance of getting it)
A video showing how it works.
Basically, i highlighted this in my video of an 800x600 test (Yes I know the quality sucks, but at least you can see the stam!). Basically, I was proffing Dual 222 broads for a friend, one had Giant enchant on it but that doesn't give stamina. The other set, I had my Ego with another Glad that was a little upgraded with a Goddess Obsidian enchant. Basically, Goddess takes away -5 Stam, but Obsidian gives +30 stam. This meant, even when my stam hit 0 I could switch to my no stam enchant broads, and switch back to regain 25 stam.
So that's basically it...not much to explain :| anymore, I highly reccommend WM grinders who grind in Their Method to use it, as you no longer need to Trans or bring stam pots. However, there are MUCH more cheaper alternatives to Obsidian, which costs me 150k to repair 6 whole points (QQ). If you are someone who is always under age 16, I suggest Energetic enchant which adds +50 Stam per weapon. If you couple that Energetic on two 222 broads, you're set on grinding.
Never trained WM?
GET YOURSELF A STAM ENCHANT AND DO IT!
(Also)
Stam enchants on clothing work too, but it's more weird to take off a Hat or something and put it back on than rather doing my method of pressing TAB twice.
Happy Infinite Stamming :>
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krpr wrote on 2010-11-17 16:37
if only this worked with hp enchants
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Knightmehre wrote on 2010-11-17 16:37
Quote from krpr;218895:
if only this worked with hp enchants
You dont need HP if you're wming zombies with r1 D:<
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krpr wrote on 2010-11-17 16:39
Quote from Knightmehre;218896:
You dont need HP if you're wming zombies with r1 D:<
for other situations mostly. But yea, nice find
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Archibald wrote on 2010-11-17 17:29
There is actually a better method. I hope some of the good players don't mind me sharing this little secret.
If your a Human get 2x swords with Cypress and Cold Hearted on them. This is -110 stam for each sword for -220 total. Put this on your backup weapon slots. Put your normal swords on front slots. Anytime your wm spamming and you get below 220 stam just weapon switch 1 time and boom back up to 220 stam.
This is really nice money saving for rangers/wmers/Alchemists since they can spam their main skill and just make a quick weapon switch and have stam back.
If your and elf you can do same thing but add a shield with careful Alteration enchants on that wth a cypress sword/mace. Total is 145. So anytime you dip below 145 and your ranging just switch and your back to 145 stam. Never have to buy stam pots again unless you like to be in pot poisen.
If your a giant you can duel wield cypress cold maces (sold at auctions) for the 220 stam effect.
More efficient and not age dependant way. Have fun.
Waits for the good players to rage at increased cost of cypress ES.
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Ravendor wrote on 2010-11-17 17:41
I was going to sell my cypress broadsword.
Now I think I'll keep it. Muahaha.
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Knightmehre wrote on 2010-11-17 17:42
Quote from Archibald;218921:
There is actually a better method. I hope some of the good players don't mind me sharing this little secret.
If your a Human get 2x swords with Cypress and Cold Hearted on them. This is -110 stam for each sword for -220 total. Put this on your backup weapon slots. Put your normal swords on front slots. Anytime your wm spamming and you get below 220 stam just weapon switch 1 time and boom back up to 220 stam.
This is really nice money saving for rangers/wmers/Alchemists since they can spam their main skill and just make a quick weapon switch and have stam back.
If your and elf you can do same thing but add a shield with careful Alteration enchants on that wth a cypress sword/mace. Total is 145. So anytime you dip below 145 and your ranging just switch and your back to 145 stam. Never have to buy stam pots again unless you like to be in pot poisen.
If your a giant you can duel wield cypress cold maces (sold at auctions) for the 220 stam effect.
More efficient and not age dependant way. Have fun.
Waits for the good players to rage at increased cost of cypress ES.
Wow! never thought of it, but it's kinda like the opposite of mine.
Gotta stalk the auction now :)
EDIT: Speaking of which, bought myself the only Cypress on housing :)
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Zid wrote on 2010-11-17 19:28
Nice guide. So it actually works with Stamina, contrary to what I heard.
I'm not a good player, but I'll rage at the cost of Cypress ES anyway. (Rages)
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Ailyene wrote on 2010-11-17 20:16
Wow, this is great! Does the 25 stam stack? As in, if you switch a couple times, you get back to your maximum stamina? I would like to go for that cypress cold-hearted method, but unfortunately it's quite expensive.
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Nalgor wrote on 2010-11-17 21:00
Quote from Ailyene;219080:
Wow, this is great! Does the 25 stam stack? As in, if you switch a couple times, you get back to your maximum stamina? I would like to go for that cypress cold-hearted method, but unfortunately it's quite expensive.
Well, knowing how enchants works :
set 1 has +0
set 2 has +25.
You switch to the +25(set 2) but if you switch back, you'll "lose" 25 stam. From what I understood reading this, there is no "negative" stam(like hp in deadly) so, when you are at 0 with set 2 and you go to set 1, you keep 0 stam, then you switch back to set 2, and get back to 25 stam.
Archibald's way is a bit better, because you don't have to use the enchanted equips(as in, fight with them), you can use anything else you want. Though Energetic is a bit more common than Cypress. :D
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Knightmehre wrote on 2010-11-18 13:21
Quote from Nalgor;219113:
Well, knowing how enchants works :
set 1 has +0
set 2 has +25.
You switch to the +25(set 2) but if you switch back, you'll "lose" 25 stam. From what I understood reading this, there is no "negative" stam(like hp in deadly) so, when you are at 0 with set 2 and you go to set 1, you keep 0 stam, then you switch back to set 2, and get back to 25 stam.
Archibald's way is a bit better, because you don't have to use the enchanted equips(as in, fight with them), you can use anything else you want. Though Energetic is a bit more common than Cypress. :D
From my understanding on my info and Zyrus's info, the Enchant with -stam and +stam will work.
The negative stam works as
So if my Cypress broad had -100 stam, and i my other hand is free or have a weapon that does not have a -stam,
1) Use wm or any stamina reduction skill to diminish stam to around 0
2) Switch to Cypress, this will effectively reduce whatever stam you have to 0 if you are under 100
3) Switch back, since Cypress is gone you will automatically regain 100 stam.
Thank Zyrus for the ego
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psyal wrote on 2010-11-18 20:40
Not exactly the same, but does this work with Mana as well?
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qw565 wrote on 2010-11-19 02:39
I think I once did this before but with mp
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abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 03:00
DANGIT ZY!
Why would you tell people about this in public?
If too many people use this, then this will be fixed just like the medical set (back in C1 KR), which was used to heal wound.
Just take a look at what happened with raft/hot air reward change method.
Oh and don't call me an elitist cuz I pmed people about this method if they looked like they needed it.
Please, phunkie lock and delete this thread. I don't mind some people using it, but once this method becomes googleable then it becomes a problem.
*edit1: from the look of it, this isn't too late to delete this thread. All of these posters are trustworthy and no problem will arise if they keep this to themselves.
The maximum stam u can gain out of this is 240. not 220.
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Loret wrote on 2010-11-19 03:00
Now I'm glad I bought those two goddy obby blades :D
+rep