How to fix the Economy?

• Haydrian wrote on 2010-11-19 00:14
  You don't.
  
  
  

  Quote from EndlessDreams;220528:

  Can't buy it? Or not willing to buy it? There is quite a difference there. There are always people with money, but they don't see anything that is worth buying to them.

  
  
  Also, this.
• gentrone wrote on 2010-11-19 00:37

  Quote from Archibald;220572:

  Econs been bad since most of the bots stopped selling gold (and herbs, gems and ingots) on our server+auctions + decrease in population. <--- Huge factor

  
  
  Absolutely agree.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 00:49
  IMO people need to get rid of the mentality that NX=Gold. The reason the market is flooded with items and little gold to buy them is because people gached whenever they needed money.
  
  This is just my thought, but one way to fix this economy is having people run shadow missions more.
  
  If decent players ran shadow wizard hm in 20minutes, then 264,000gold would be flowing into the server every 20minutes. and that is not mentioning the gold drop from mobs. Also, they won't get as bored as if they were soloing since there are 7 other people you can talk to.
  
  However, in order for that to work, people need to be more courteous toward each other.
• Adelynn wrote on 2010-11-19 02:25
  I miss running dungeons/missions with more people. There needs to be an event that doubles party quest rewards for a week or something. That would probably encourage a few people.
• gentrone wrote on 2010-11-19 03:02
  That's what's happening with the Cook event. Yesterday I ran Shadow Wizard Hard a few times with a really nice party. What made us do it was the rewards and the fact that the Mana Steak gives 2x exp during the event. It was fun to share the food with a campfire and sip some tea :p
• Akemii wrote on 2010-11-19 03:04

  Quote from Pikablu;220496:

  We enable a National Stimulus package and boost the health care of the people.
  
  Oh wait a minute...

  
  
  lmfao lovee <3 Ruairi economy seems fine, so hooray :D
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 03:08

  Quote from gentrone;220949:

  That's what's happening with the Cook event. Yesterday I ran Shadow Wizard Hard a few times with a really nice party. What made us do it was the rewards and the fact that the Mana Steak gives 2x exp during the event. It was fun to share the food with a campfire and sip some tea :p

  
  
  This post makes me have a lot of hope in the future of mabi economy.
• jking012 wrote on 2010-11-19 04:00

  Quote from EndlessDreams;220523:

  Its a cycle... people don't have items people with money are willing to pay for. In return, they don't have money to pay for items they want.

  
  
  totally a financial paradox :(
• Zid wrote on 2010-11-19 05:00
  I see no reason to fix the economy. Then again, I never had to gacha or sell supplies for money. Making your own stable, profitable source of income from the gaming environment is pretty much a firmly constant lifestyle.
  
  That being said, I'm surprised people are surprised at this "change". This is just another day of a F2P MMORPG.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 05:10

  Quote from Zid;221187:

  I see no reason to fix the economy. Then again, I never had to gacha or sell supplies for money. Making your own stable, profitable source of income from the gaming environment is pretty much a firmly constant lifestyle.
  
  That being said, I'm surprised people are surprised at this "change". This is just another day of a F2P MMORPG.

  
  
  As a former player who was indifferent in economy and self-sufficient, I could understand that, but once I got housing, I realized that participating in the economy more could help with my character growth.
  
  The problem with self-sufficiency is this question. *let's take enchant as an example* If I can get more enchants by running shadow missions for money and using that money to hire runners, then why run alby myself and get less done?
• Zid wrote on 2010-11-19 05:59

  Quote from abc33kr;221204:

  As a former player who was indifferent in economy and self-sufficient, I could understand that, but once I got housing, I realized that participating in the economy more could help with my character growth.
  
  The problem with self-sufficiency is this question. *let's take enchant as an example* If I can get more enchants by running shadow missions for money and using that money to hire runners, then why run alby myself and get less done?

  
  
  Because that is personal preferences of what you do with your money.
  
  Obviously, there are going to be things in MMOs that a person can't quite get by his or herself. The way I play Mabinogi now though, is to cut down on my player economic activities and be self-sufficient. Which has worked so far (except today... I had to asked a guildie for enchanting).
  
  I'm not saying everybody should do things and get things by themselves. But the way people are complaining about the state of things now, I kind of think it would be better off if a bit more independence was injected in everybody involved.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-11-19 06:09

  Quote from Zid;221313:

  Because that is personal preferences of what you do with your money.
  
  Obviously, there are going to be things in MMOs that a person can't quite get by his or herself. The way I play Mabinogi now though, is to cut down on my player economic activities and be self-sufficient. Which has worked so far (except today... I had to asked a guildie for enchanting).
  
  I'm not saying everybody should do things and get things by themselves. But the way people are complaining about the state of things now, I kind of think it would be better off if a bit more independence was injected in everybody involved.

  
  
  I think I get what you are talking about. People are too reliant on the market that no one is supplying the mats or adding gold to the market. Yes, that is a problem. I guess the server economy could use some although inefficient, stable, independent people to stabilize the economy.
• gentrone wrote on 2010-11-19 06:25
  We need bots back, lol. Solea provided the market with fresh Mana Herbs daily, to the point each stack reached a price of 7900 gold. Ore fragments and gems were more abundant as well, the only inconvenience was that bots in turn would sell that gold for real money. Even though, now that I think about it, they had no actual profit in terms of the game currency. Every penny was "transfered" to the buyer and they in turn would buy more stuff --in-game, using that gold-- and keep the economy running.
  I thought of bots as China providing cheap labor to the US today. They did the job nobody really wanted to do for a very very low price, then, in turn, the rest of the population could use their time running dungeons and ranking life skills using these cheap goods (I was so happy buying cheap mana herbs). I don't know, it's just an hypothesis, it's really hard to try to explain the "economy" of a game.
• Euffie wrote on 2010-11-19 12:33

  Quote from gentrone;221328:

  We need bots back, lol. Solea provided the market with fresh Mana Herbs daily, to the point each stack reached a price of 7900 gold. Ore fragments and gems were more abundant as well, the only inconvenience was that bots in turn would sell that gold for real money. Even though, now that I think about it, they had no actual profit in terms of the game currency. Every penny was "transfered" to the buyer and they in turn would buy more stuff --in-game, using that gold-- and keep the economy running.
  I thought of bots as China providing cheap labor to the US today. They did the job nobody really wanted to do for a very very low price, then, in turn, the rest of the population could use their time running dungeons and ranking life skills using these cheap goods (I was so happy buying cheap mana herbs). I don't know, it's just an hypothesis, it's really hard to try to explain the "economy" of a game.

  
  
  hehe, here is how real life monetary values got translated into (or much rather, affect) a game. All I can say that it's the power of the invisible hand... lol
• krpr wrote on 2010-11-19 12:51
  Nexon is putting rare stuff from <g12 in events to lower their price and make them more common so they can add >g12 rare stuff.
  Since we're in this transition economy will suffer since people would normally buy gachas, get a semi-rare item and sell for some cash. Now that semi-rare item is common ingame and thus the price dropped. Or even rare production from, for example, synthesis
  
  This is creating a gap, the semi-rare stuff that people used to make money is ridiculously cheap and hard to sell because the events, while the new rare stuff from >g12 is ridiculous expensive (15m+?). This will create a small market where only people who grind all day or buy gold through bots will be able to participate, while the type of player that just plays with the market to get money will be pretty much screwed up
  
  This is kinda confusing so putting in a practical example.
  Imagine someone that ranked synthesis to make rare stuff and thus getting tons of money by selling some synth good stuff. Now the fishing event made fitted cords dirty cheap while they were worth a few mils some months ago.
  Now another someone that just spam gachas all day, get some random rare stuff and stamp it's price for 15m. With this, how will person 1 buy the item person 2 is selling when 1mil is stupidly hard to make?
  
  
  (as i wrote that, realized nexon is making gacha spam the best way of making money..... dammit nexon)