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gentrone wrote on 2010-11-27 22:46
Not just Christianity but any religion around the world. I'm asking because I read this comment in other
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Quote from Kazuni:
I wonder if religion would ever die out completely. Or close to, anyway..
and it made me wonder. Personally, I think the world would be a better place without religion as we know it. You see, the idea of religion is not flawed but the people who believe in it. They merge their own beliefs with those of the religion. Like the hate we see everyday against gay people or stoned women in the Middle East. Throughout History many wars have been fought just for the sake of defending a true god or a true religion, that's just stupid.
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-11-27 22:49
It's good to have beliefs and morals. If you stand for nothing, you fall for everything.
But religion should be a personal thing. One should never force it on another.
Each religion is different. Apples and oranges. You may not like oranges, so I can't exactly force ya to eat mine.
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Cannibal wrote on 2010-11-27 22:51
Well...
I don't know what I believe. I don't think religion is something that can be taught by other people. I think it's something you have to find yourself. I look at big religious groups and they remind me of cults. I'm not sure why, but they just do. I don't understand people bashing other people for not believing in what they believe in. It's silly, and it shouldn't be someone else's business how I feel and look at something.
If someone else wants to have a certain religion or set of beliefs, it has nothing to do with me. I won't bother them about how they feel, and I expect them to do the same.
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Kazuni wrote on 2010-11-27 22:54
Erm, you spelled my name wrong.
But yeah..
I think religion has a lot of positive effects, like helping people trust, and knowing that your loved ones go to heaven if they die.
But religion has been used as a catalyst for so many other things, like terrorism, wars.. all sorts.
If religion didn't exist, there would still be conflicts like this using something else as an excuse.
Not that I can find it in myself to believe in any God, anyway..
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gentrone wrote on 2010-11-27 23:00
Quote from Kazuni;230664:
Erm, you spelled my name wrong.
Sorry 'bout that. 'tis okay now.
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-11-27 23:36
For me, this sums up all religion pretty well:
Quote from Steven Weinberg:
Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.
As for deities, no deities has ever clearly made contact with us especially with all our communication technologies nowadays. Either they exist, and don't give a damn about us, or they don't exist at all. In either case, all religions in the past and present are purely man-made unless whatever religion deity or deities come and actually tells us otherwise in a clear and convincing way for everyone.
Many governments in the world are heavily influenced by religions, which would include the United States, so you can't really say that they have nothing to do with you.
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Kansi wrote on 2010-11-27 23:54
Religions... have lost most of their importance in modern day. Religion was meant to keep civil order and give hope to those who have none when their lives are rough. The promise of reward in the after-life is motivation for people of the religion to help others and themselves so that they can ascend to that place in the after-life. The concept of Hell (or hells) was meant to make people fear doing immoral or wrong things. In modern day we have technology that disagrees with religion and theories that conflict with religious teachings. Although I feel that religion has become unimportant it's still a good thing to have because you enter a society, give meaning to life, among other things if you do not abuse the religion.
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Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-11-27 23:56
George Carlin is funny. Look him up on youtube.
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TA wrote on 2010-11-28 01:20
Mine are too long and too personal for this forum. I'll say though that they aren't any of the religions of the world today.
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Akemii wrote on 2010-11-28 01:27
At this point, I don't care about religion. I totally respect other people's religions though. If God does exist, I guess I'm going to burn in hell for something I can't even help.
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Pocoyo wrote on 2010-11-28 01:58
Don't believe in any of it. Personally I find religion flawed and stupid.
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Adelynn wrote on 2010-11-28 02:03
I'm okay with religion, as long as it isn't used to hurt other. Unfortunately, this can often be the case. However, it's important to understand that not everyone in that religion is like that.
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Akemii wrote on 2010-11-28 02:06
Quote from Adelynn;230776:
I'm okay with religion, as long as it isn't used to hurt other. Unfortunately, this can often be the case. However, it's important to understand that not everyone in that religion is like that.
You have been saying alot of things I agree with today xD.
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Osayidan wrote on 2010-11-28 02:14
Religion is a creation of man, so like anything created by man, it is flawed. I also believe that science is flawed, especially the way it gets handled these days.
In religion: most people stick to one concept and defend it viciously, if you stray from that concept you're outcast from their "group", eventually you might get enough people who support your idea and branch off to form your own religion.
In science: most people believe in one concept and defend it viciously, if you propose alternate theories you're shunned from the scientific community. Eventually your theory gains support and you branch off into a new field of science.
The only difference is that in science, eventually people manage to agree on whose right or wrong.
So I'm stuck in the middle, seeing both ideas as being completely retarded. But let's not confuse the scientific community with actual science. It's thanks to science we're all posting on this forum right now, but were it not for religion or the scientific community (especially the western one), we may have been doing it a few hundred years sooner.
I'm in the opinion that both religious and scientific communities have retarded (in the literal sense of slowing down) the human race. I also don't have much good to say about the human race.
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silentselene wrote on 2010-11-28 03:16
Quote from Phunkie;230660:
It's good to have beliefs and morals. If you stand for nothing, you fall for everything.
But religion should be a personal thing. One should never force it on another.
Each religion is different. Apples and oranges. You may not like oranges, so I can't exactly force ya to eat mine.
Just what I wanted to say. Religion gives me hope and confidence, but you don't see me forcing it on everyone. Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs, as long as they don't harm others.