Nexon, hire an economist please.

• User495 wrote on 2010-12-08 22:59

  Quote from DarkLord7;241244:

  The problem I see is that the only way to make money in the game is by merchanting. If there was a better, non-merchanting, way to make gold, everyone would benefit. - everyone except nexon, that is. And there lies the problem.

  
  
  all sources of gold comes from 1 source, monsters/dungeons, sometimes NPCs but you can't get the items to sell to NPCs without selling something you got off monsters or dungeons so yeah
  
  

  Quote from Lamm;240777:

  Out of the whole topic, I feel Radionoise is correct; this is the only good thing about these events.
  
  I'm personally am well equipped, played for a long time, and used to merchant. I've seen all the events that brings old rares to commons. I'm not bugged by this because this allows everyone finally get a hand on the item they always wanted. So what if it's more common? I feel like it's a good thing that the economy is deflating.
  
  Yes, I have taken university microeconomics, and we all know how it works. I'm also well effected by this, but I'm not mad because I'm not elitist about the top players are only exclusive to these popular items.
  
  
  
  I believe, outside of the whole economic debate, nexon is also trying to make it more beginner friendly. Give the new players a chance to get nice items. All MMOs now are focusing on increasing players to increase revenue. This includes inviting veterans and also brand new players to the game. Before you think "EVIL NEXON TRYING TO INCREASE REVENUE! RAGE!!1" It's not just Nexon, it's also Blizzard, Gravity, Steam, and other gaming industry.
  
  
  
  I'm just glad Nexon doesn't introduce huge Game breaking items as rewards. But I see them trying.

  
  
  also agreed, there's really nothing wrong with an item being more common, specially now that mabi's beginning to have so many things that people can be somewhat original and not look like duplicates of one another
  
  though I also see the down side to working hard for an item and then everyone else getting it easily, which is why I hardly ever work hard for an item, I get them as I go (if I wanted to and can afford to at the time, etc)
• Jovo wrote on 2010-12-08 23:04

  Quote from gentrone;240715:

  I agree, but what affects players can also affect Nexon in the long term. How? Players that quit. Nobody says they shouldn't sell cash shop items, but it can be done in better way that doesn't negatively affect trading. They would sure know how if they hired an advisor.
  
  That's not the point of this thread. It's not for QQ, just debating.

  
  
  People don't quit because of the events messing up economy, it's because they get bored of the game. If you look at Mabinogi in its entirety, it's just a big massive AP grindfest.
  
  As for the rare item argument, things don't stay rare forever. Dragon blades would eventually be common because the server population that can clear peaca gets higher and higher. In addition, the old "rare" items always get replaced by new rare items such as falcatas, highlander bows/claymores, and the like. Nexon can capitalize on rare items like this because as time goes on, it'll be eventually common. Why not make some money off of it? That's how I see it.
• Intex wrote on 2010-12-08 23:07

  Quote from Jovo;241353:

  People don't quit because of the events messing up economy, t's because they get bored of the game. If you look at Mabinogi in its entirety, it's just a big massive [s]AP[/s] skill proficiency grindfest.

  
  
  That's why I ended up quitting.
• Tally wrote on 2010-12-08 23:39

  Quote from Lamm;240777:

  Before you think "EVIL NEXON TRYING TO INCREASE REVENUE! RAGE!!1" It's not just Nexon, it's also Blizzard, Gravity, Steam, and other gaming industry.

  
  
  Valve (who owns Steam) doesn't own any MMOs, and any MMOs sold on Steam are only using Steam as a distribution/payment service.
  
  
  Now, back on topic after that bit of nitpicking, an event I personally liked was the Shadow of Eweca event, because it was definitely on the right track. It allowed less-profitable professions to blossom (fishing and ESPECIALLY refining) without ruining any rare items, or introducing any particularly strong new ones.
  
  Granted, I think refining could be fixed to be profitable by making more uses for plates. But that's an issue that's otherwise out of the hands of events.
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-12-09 11:59
  It's going to be a matter of time before they make old skills easy through changes to the game.
  
  Change is the constant. It questions the power of the elite players. Ultimately, the clear winners are not these elite players. The winners are Nexon. Be careful before you even play the card game here.
  
  I don't really care about rarities going down in value if I'm not going to sell them.
  
  I'll be happy enough if they don't impede entertainment value in the game for me, which doesn't really involve getting all the rares or whatever. I just like a choice of easy going nature of the game, and for the freedom of choices it allows with the system.
• Lamm wrote on 2010-12-09 21:22

  Quote from Tally;241410:

  Valve (who owns Steam) doesn't own any MMOs, and any MMOs sold on Steam are only using Steam as a distribution/payment service.
  
  
  

  
  
  
  If you read more carefully, I said "and other gaming industry" not specifically MMO gaming industry (you also quoted it).
  
  And yes, Steam has offered many blow out deals on all their games. To promote their new episode of HL2, they offered the whole package under 10 dollars. It's marketing to bring back old players and new players to make new accounts. If you also look closely, the past 3 months, they have been heavily marketing games that haven't been played for a long time. These deals are up to 90% off the original price. Then tell me that this is not a marking plan that focuses on new players.
  
  
  
  
  
  Back to topic:
  Even if you worked hard to get something, it still has it values initially. Everything tends to go down once supply meets up with demand. Ultimately and ideally if more synthesizer are introduced and more people try and do pass, the market is gonna start decreasing anyway.