Complete in depth ranged guide?

• Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 05:30
  Been wanting to work on one for a while since nobody really goes deep intellectually into ranged (publicly at least). Anyone willing to help out? Or think its worth it?
  :what:
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-05-01 05:44
  I thought there was a few? That Archer Guide by that Daisuke person or whatever, and that Elf Handbook-Guide-things are good range guides.
  
  I am so good at names. :D
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 05:48
  I mean further. Something along the lines of Triggers guide but for range
• Scontro wrote on 2010-05-01 05:52
  In depth? You have a lot to cover when it comes to magic. Thats why Triggers guide contains so much info. I'm not sure if range can get anymore in-depth. >_> You don't really have much too cover anyway.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-05-01 05:59

  Quote from bradstrt;24136:

  I mean further. Something along the lines of Triggers guide but for range

  
  
  Further? There isn't much to range. Human has like 3 range skills, giants have none, and elves has like a few more skills...
  +1 skill if you count support shot.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 06:08
  Was thinking more along the lines of
  -Tactics using the newer skills, and any overlooked tactics
  -Damage calculations for non-life skilling build
  -Damage calculations for ranking dex increasing skills one at a time (1 char with refine, 1 with playing instrument, 1 with weaving etc. etc.)
  -Damage calculations for having multiple dex increasing skills raised
  -Damage calculations for enchants
  -In-depth elf strategies
  -In depth human strategies
  -Using pets to your advantage
  -Role in a dungeon
  
  That kind of stuff..... which I'm willing to put the effort towards if people want one.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-05-01 06:16

  Quote from bradstrt;24164:

  Was thinking more along the lines of
  -Tactics using the newer skills, and any overlooked tactics
  -Damage calculations for non-life skilling build
  -Damage calculations for ranking dex increasing skills one at a time (1 char with refine, 1 with playing instrument, 1 with weaving etc. etc.)
  -Damage calculations for having multiple dex increasing skills raised
  -Damage calculations for enchants
  -In-depth elf strategies
  -In depth human strategies
  -Using pets to your advantage
  -Role in a dungeon
  
  That kind of stuff..... which I'm willing to put the effort towards if people want one.

  
  
  You do realize that a non-life skill range person is similar to a melee person not ranking their melee skills or a mage not getting int/magic mastery for balance right?
  
  Why damage skills calculated for one at a time? Just get as much dex as possible.
  
  Just range/magnum/AR spam, it works in just about anything.
  
  Enchants for melee/range don't have anything hidden though. It does what it supposed to.
  
  If you think you have that much concerns/ideas/whatever, why don't you write one?
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 06:29
  Cause some people like me have no desire to touch a life-skill, just started my first ever lifeskill EVER in an MMO tonight.....
  
  So I was just gonna cover the bases see which skill is more beneficial to the player.
• Chillax wrote on 2010-05-01 06:29

  Quote from EndlessDreams;24170:

  You do realize that a non-life skill range person is similar to a melee person not ranking their melee skills or a mage not getting int/magic mastery for balance right?
  
  Why damage skills calculated for one at a time? Just get as much dex as possible.
  
  Just range/magnum/AR spam, it works in just about anything.
  
  Enchants for melee/range don't have anything hidden though. It does what it supposed to.
  
  If you think you have that much concerns/ideas/whatever, why don't you write one?

  
  
  Well, he's in need of help, so I doubt he would write a guide.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 06:32
  Was asking if anyone wanted to, could do it on my own really. ._____.
• Justified wrote on 2010-05-01 06:48

  Quote from EndlessDreams;24170:

  Why damage skills calculated for one at a time? Just get as much dex as possible.

  
  
  Done
  
  Pretty much.
  
  Honestly, some calculations are just not necessary. Like Magic Balance - by the time I even bothered to think what my balance was, I already had 100%.
  
  Likewise, not knowing Damage calculations shouldn't prevent a clueless person from ranking things that add more damage. And it's obvious that something that gives more Dex/Damage is better, they don't need to calculate how much better or whatever.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 06:50
  Missing how it affects damage but yeah basically XD;;
• Chillax wrote on 2010-05-01 06:59
  Well, if you don't have much experience in ranking any dex skills, you might not completely comprehend the arduous tasks that are ahead of a beginner archer. There isn't too much to Ranged tactics, other than Lightningbolt/Firebolt+AR spam or hide behind Campfire and Magnum, etc.
  
  Also, missing how what affects damage?
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-01 07:00
  Which is why I'm working on that:thumb:
• Syrphid wrote on 2010-05-01 07:26
  swipe --> point blank magnum --> summon new pet is a pretty nifty combo
  
  Dealing with multi aggro using a bow is not very obvious.
  
  Typical opportunities to assist a teammate in party play (ie smash --> single ar)
  
  Crossbow play
  
  Comboing with pet's ib/fb/wm
  
  All things newbie archers would be interested in reading about, I'm sure.