Class Conversion...?

• Kazuni wrote on 2010-05-02 06:24

  Quote from Chillax;25491:

  How about internet lag 8D
  
  What about most of the AR shots missing? That's happened to me quite a few times, and with the slow human range load time, the human would be forced to use windmill to counterattack, going back to good ol' melee.

  
  
  Which most humans would've ranked to some extent anyways. That's what I'm saying. Most humans aren't pure range, they have melee to back them up, just like elves have their double shooting, etc.
  
  These're just factors while being range-oriented.
• Chillax wrote on 2010-05-02 06:25

  Quote from Kazuni;25500:

  Which most humans would've ranked to some extent anyways. That's what I'm saying.

  
  
  But the human probably wouldn't have gotten into that situation had he/she stayed melee and smashed/wmed the crap out of the monsters.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-05-02 06:27

  Quote from Chillax;25502:

  But the human probably wouldn't have gotten into that situation had he/she stayed melee and smashed/wmed the crap out of the monsters.

  
  
  It's always better to be a hybrid, though.
  I'm not saying I would recommend going range nuts, just that it's not a bad thing to do.
• Chockeh wrote on 2010-05-02 06:31
  One you maxed out melee, which can happen before even level 1000, you can always pick other skills :<. Benefit from the classless game D<.
• Chillax wrote on 2010-05-02 06:32
  I don't know about that hybrid part. What skill ranks and skills in melee and range would a hybrid need to be a hybrid? Maybe after you've gotten the melee part to a sufficiently strong level, say, assured 200+ str with title and enchants, would it be good to foray into range.
• Justified wrote on 2010-05-02 06:35
  I think we need a list of skills before anything can be decided. All our conclusions are meaningless hypotheticals until then.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-05-02 06:36

  Quote from Chillax;25519:

  I don't know about that hybrid part. What skill ranks and skills in melee and range would a hybrid need to be a hybrid? Maybe after you've gotten the melee part to a sufficiently strong level, say, assured 200+ str with title and enchants, would it be good to foray into range.

  
  
  That's kind of like saying I need a sufficienty strong range level with 200+ dex & title+enchants, but I already branched off into magic, which is good when range fails me. Natural shield, etc.
  
  I would want to have two options at any time so I could fall back onto something, instead of focusing on one thing until it's already.. like that.
• Chillax wrote on 2010-05-02 06:48

  Quote from Kazuni;25528:

  That's kind of like saying I need a sufficienty strong range level with 200+ dex & title+enchants, but I already branched off into magic, which is good when range fails me. Natural shield, etc.
  
  I would want to have two options at any time so I could fall back onto something, instead of focusing on one thing until it's already.. like that.

  
  
  With r9 Final Hit, r5 Combat Mastery, r1 Windmill, Bear Slayer in a Single Blow title, negligible ranks in other skils, and a few giant/fierce enchants, I reached 200 str.
  
  I branched out to range after that, and I can range through a dungeon fine now, though I much prefer to melee.
• sakraycore wrote on 2010-05-02 07:06
  it's cool to use range sometimes, it's like a nice novelty but slightly discouraging when you hit 20s on certain shadow mission mobs lol even multiple r1 range skills
• Lolicon wrote on 2010-05-02 07:41
  Wheee love reading fl4me O_O
  So, from what I've read, go hybrid?
  
  Oh, and one problem with WM. I'm stuck at 7, and Zombies are awful D:
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-05-02 07:44

  Quote from Jerain;25629:

  Wheee love reading fl4me O_O
  So, from what I've read, go hybrid?
  
  Oh, and one problem with WM. I'm stuck at 7, and Zombies are awful D:

  
  
  I don't rank wm, so I wouldn't know, but something with -CP and spam. Spam Spam Spam -CP Spam. That's what everyone says, anyways.
• Daisuke wrote on 2010-05-02 07:46
  [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="2"]My opinion, if you are lag-free and/or live in the West coast of the U.S., you'll do fine in going for Range. If you live in the East coast or suffer from some sort of lag, wait until you get AR before getting into Range.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• Chillax wrote on 2010-05-02 08:23

  Quote from Jerain;25629:

  Wheee love reading fl4me O_O
  So, from what I've read, go hybrid?
  
  Oh, and one problem with WM. I'm stuck at 7, and Zombies are awful D:

  
  
  Seemed pretty tame to me. Flaming usually starts when someone begins bashing the person's character and the like.
  
  Try Shadow Missions for CP training?
• Kaon wrote on 2010-05-02 10:31

  Quote from Jerain;25629:

  Wheee love reading fl4me O_O
  So, from what I've read, go hybrid?
  
  Oh, and one problem with WM. I'm stuck at 7, and Zombies are awful D:

  
  
  
  Then find something else that's boss... or like was said, -CP lol.
  
  But don't switch to range to avoid wm. You'll just end up regretting it later. But it wouldn't hurt to start on refine either, or hunt Ar pages. Getting it now for when you want it later will save you the effort then, plus you can go for it more casually, and just get pages when you run for them, save some money.
  
  As for the AR vs elf stuff, from my experience, neither is really that much better.
  I'm an elf, and while r1 AR does charge faster, I've never felt disadvantaged by it, no matter the level of the opposing char (in PVP)
  Tho I've not really compared them for dealing with multi aggro. I have cleared fiodh int damn fast tho o3o.
• Artemis wrote on 2010-05-02 11:56

  Quote from Chocklitshop;25480:

  I suggest to Get WM and Refine R1 first, then he can't go wrong.

  
  
  ^Agreed 8D
  Once you start ranking range over r9, wm becomes so much harder to train if you don't have -cp stuff ><