Hardcore Vindictus Players

• babohtea wrote on 2010-12-28 06:14
  Aren't the people with 15k AP.
  It's the people that get the "Bomb 500 wisps" titles. Or the "Kill Laghodessa 50 times" titles.
  YOU GUYS ARE INSANE.
• TheBoulder wrote on 2010-12-28 06:17
  There's only so much you can do when you hit the level cap.
• Akemii wrote on 2010-12-28 06:21

  Quote from TheBoulder;265551:

  There's only so much you can do when you hit the level cap.

  
  
  This.
  
  That's why I like Mabinogi. No level cap. and it doesn't become a pain to level after awhile, it's just always the same
  
  
  Maybe when they raise level cap a bit higher I'll start playing (more)
• Intex wrote on 2010-12-28 06:34
  I've been playing since a little before Boat 4 with my Evie and I already have 16k AP. I don't even use any Crimsons and I really try to leave Vindictus ASAP so that I can work or play PC games.
  I only have 130 titles, I really don't want to kick 500 gnolls >_>;
  I don't need +1 WIL when I could spend the time and make a few hundred thousand gold instead.
• Mama wrote on 2010-12-28 06:38
  lagho 50 times is pretty tame , only takes a few hrs.
  
  rather, its people close to 200 titles that scare me xD I dont have the patience or motivation to do dozens of trivial +1 stat titles that can take an entire day of gameplay, if not more.
• Singleuseonly wrote on 2010-12-28 06:50
  Bomb 500 wisps? Crap never knew that title existed, time to start working.
  Also, the titles you listed aren't insanely hard to get. You can just spear wisps when you do your dailies and you'll be at 500 at some point in time. Clearing Lag 50 times is also pretty quick in comparison to other "kill ___ 50 times" titles because if you hop on to a good party you can comfortably finish in 3-4 minutes. Not to mention Lag is the most token to ap efficient BQ.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-12-28 06:53

  Quote from babohtea;265546:

  Aren't the people with 15k AP.
  It's the people that get the "Bomb 500 wisps" titles. Or the "Kill Laghodessa 50 times" titles.
  YOU GUYS ARE INSANE.

  
  
  I'm only down to bomb 500 toads and spear 500 vampires.
  I did almost every other title.
  
  I'd say its more grindy to get 15k AP.
  Its not hard to do the titles as long as you don't forget and do it as you normally do your every day missions.
  
  If you see a goblin, use an object to kill it.
  If you see a gnoll, kick it.
  If you see a kobold archer, throw a spear.
  
  All very simple things you just need to remember.
• Singleuseonly wrote on 2010-12-28 07:01

  Quote from Cucurbita;265634:

  I'd say its more grindy to get 15k AP.

  
  
  Probably requires more effort but not necessarily more "grindy" because you can do different battle quests to get your ap as opposed to doing one dungeon 100 times to get +1 will.
• Phoenix~Lament wrote on 2010-12-28 07:28

  Quote from Pride;265559:

  This.
  
  That's why I like Mabinogi. No level cap. and it doesn't become a pain to level after awhile, it's just always the same
  
  
  Maybe when they raise level cap a bit higher I'll start playing (more)

  
  
  This.
  
  This is why I like Vindictus. Pretty low level cap, not too much content out yet but what exists is decently challenging skill-wise. It's nice to have a game where you can be near the top without too much grinding and after you're done with all the episodes which doesn't take very long just do dailies everyday to maintain your character and spend all the extra time on important real life crap.
  
  At least in my opinion. That's also why I quit Mabinogi. Grinding isn't worth the real life time.
  
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  Quote from Cucurbita:

  I'm only down to bomb 500 toads and spear 500 vampires.
  I did almost every other title.
  
  I'd say its more grindy to get 15k AP.
  Its not hard to do the titles as long as you don't forget and do it as you normally do your every day missions.
  
  If you see a goblin, use an object to kill it.
  If you see a gnoll, kick it.
  If you see a kobold archer, throw a spear.
  
  All very simple things you just need to remember.

  
  
  I hope you realize that 500 spears (and it'll take more than that due to buggy misses and miscalculations of finishing blows) costs 75k gold, which is extremely expensive for three measly stat points. It would be MUCH more worth it of your money to instead get every equipment set title and enhance everything instead, and speaking of time (though you reason that you can just do it during your everyday missions which is pretty true) if you choose to grind those titles out, like someone above stated, opportunity cost will pull potential hundreds of thousands of gold out of you.
  
  I suppose if you're absurdly rich and have pretty bought and upgraded absolutely everything there is to buy and upgrade as well as prepare yourself adequately for the future, then buying three willpower for 75k would be okay.
  
  Then again I like to slowly do the free crappy crappy titles myself, like kick gnolls and use objects, since those don't cost me anything.
  
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  Also, in my opinion, the hardcore vindictus players are the ones that take time to research and figure out every secret and possible way to abuse boss AI, attacks, and hitboxes, and compete with others to get the fastest speedruns. IMO MrPapa is more hardcore, and more pro, than people who grinded a billion AP and aren't as skilled and knowledgable as he is.
• PandaSong wrote on 2010-12-28 07:30

  Quote from babohtea;265546:

  Aren't the people with 15k AP.
  It's the people that get the "Bomb 500 wisps" titles. Or the "Kill Laghodessa 50 times" titles.
  YOU GUYS ARE INSANE.

  
  
  AP isn't really hard to get. All you have to do is follow a token plan (so you don't use crimsons), do the dailies every day and use all your tokens up before the reset. I'm at around 23k? or so on my Staffy, and goodness knows I didn't use many crimsons at all.
  
  The Lagho one is easy to do, since you kind of want to spam that once you're cap level to waste your tokens. o.o; 20 AP per battle? Yes please. But the hardcore people are the ones that do the very last grab title, the run-many-baby-dungeon ones.. and D: Yeah, the ones that require you to spam them a ton (more than 50 times).
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-12-28 07:32

  Quote from Singleuseonly;265653:

  Probably requires more effort but not necessarily more "grindy" because you can do different battle quests to get your ap as opposed to doing one dungeon 100 times to get +1 will.

  
  
  You can mix up your battle quests as well buddy.
  I don't have to run Decisive Battle 100 times in a row. I can switch between Decisive Battle, Revenge, Meet the Cave Spider, Frost Stones, Kobold Chief, Being From the Other World, Blood Prince, Gnoll King Ruler of the Ruins, Goliath, Fleeing Gnoll King, and Nightmare at the Ruins.
  
  All of these dungeons give you plenty of opportunities to kick, spear, bomb, smash, object strike all types of enemies. I can easily switch it up and not lose any title gain speed overall. I've gotten most of these titles and I don't really play more than 2 hours a day. I'm still getting AP from these missions too, remember.
  
  But to have gotten 15k AP you really would've had to White Tyrant up with all leftovers until Nightmare at the Ruins, and spam that for all the damn tokens you have. Its a grind.
• Singleuseonly wrote on 2010-12-28 07:43

  Quote from Phoenix~Lament;265700:

  
  I hope you realize that 500 spears (and it'll take more than that due to buggy misses and miscalculations of finishing blows) costs 75k gold, which is extremely expensive for three measly stat points. It would be MUCH more worth it of your money to instead get every equipment set title and enhance everything instead, and speaking of time (though you reason that you can just do it during your everyday missions which is pretty true) if you choose to grind those titles out, like someone above stated, opportunity cost will pull potential hundreds of thousands of gold out of you.
  
  I suppose if you're absurdly rich and have pretty bought and upgraded absolutely everything there is to buy and upgrade as well as prepare yourself adequately for the future, then buying three willpower for 75k would be okay.
  
  Then again I like to slowly do the free crappy crappy titles myself, like kick gnolls and use objects, since those don't cost me anything.
  

  
  
  75k is not a lot. Considering it costs millions to get your entire set the colour scheme you want.
  Just a little side note, Bossy title = 500k xD
  
  

  Quote from Phoenix~Lament;265700:

  
  Also, in my opinion, the hardcore vindictus players are the ones that take time to research and figure out every secret and possible way to abuse boss AI, attacks, and hitboxes, and compete with others to get the fastest speedruns. IMO MrPapa is more hardcore, and more pro, than people who grinded a billion AP and aren't as skilled and knowledgable as he is.
  

  
  That is true hardcore. I'm pretty sure those players already grinded all the ap, titles, and high tier equipment anyways.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-12-28 07:50
  75k is what my armor dye costs to do it like... once QQ
• Phoenix~Lament wrote on 2010-12-28 07:57
  Bossy's a good example too, I suppose.
  
  But, if you haven't crafted Light Plated Set for 10 str and 50 hp why not? And that beats out a couple will or agility by far. Actually, 500k could pretty much buy you the entire Light Plated Set at the market prices right now, while 75k would be maybe one and a half white scale frags towards the five you need.
  
  Unless everyone that title farms has already done this. Actually many probably have, so fuuuuu
  
  At any rate, especially when enchanting comes out, there's much better ways to spend money to improve stats.
• Singleuseonly wrote on 2010-12-28 08:07

  Quote from Phoenix~Lament;265733:

  Bossy's a good example too, I suppose.
  
  But, if you haven't crafted Light Plated Set for 10 str and 50 hp why not? And that beats out a couple will or agility by far. Actually, 500k could pretty much buy you the entire Light Plated Set at the market prices right now, while 75k would be maybe one and a half white scale frags towards the five you need.
  
  Unless everyone that title farms has already done this. Actually many probably have, so fuuuuu
  

  
  
  Usually you can mail them around your guild/friends so you don't actually have to craft anything you don't plan to wear.
  
  
  

  Quote from Phoenix~Lament;265733:

  At any rate, especially when enchanting comes out, there's much better ways to spend money to improve stats.

  
  
  I think its more the achievement than it is the stats.