Sneak preview of G13

• Malogg wrote on 2011-01-02 00:43
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  Quote from Mentosftw;272653:

  They should have made the adventurer class x1.3 skill training for all types except life to balance it out.

  
  
  Hmm... That's a good idea.
  
  Also, regarding the stat bonuses, the knight class for example, gives +.5 Str. Wouldn't it be much, much better if instead it gave x3 Str per level?
  Because at the moment, giants receive double the amount of Str per level than humans do. But when G13 comes, any human with the knight class/job will revieve .75 Str, and giants with the knight job will only receive 1 Str. Humans and giant's melee is already too similar, this is adding insult to injury. It would make much more sense if instead it gave x3 Str. Humans would still receive .75, and giants would receive 1.5. I'm sure a lot of people will complain about my idea. But melee IS giant's specialty. At the moment, I feel like we are being robbed of that. I don't give a damn if giants are penalized more in other areas of combat. I chose to be a giant because I wanted to be best at melee. I don't care if giants have no range, and are bad at magic. All I want is better melee, which is what we are supposed to have. At least I am not like some elves who complain about wanting more Str. I'm sure this comment will make a ton of people rage at me, but whatever... O.o
  
  EDIT: This would also benefit everyone, I believe, if applied to the other jobs.[/COLOR]
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-02 01:54
  I feel like there should be no Merchant class. I believe everyone should endure ranking the Life skill tab both painfully and honorably.
  
  It shouldn't be easy to get Rank 1 Blacksmith.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-02 02:00

  Quote from Phunkie;272731:

  I feel like there should be no Merchant class. I believe everyone should endure ranking the Life skill tab both painfully and honorably.
  
  It shouldn't be easy to get Rank 1 Blacksmith.

  
  
  WHYYY spend so much time and money on a gameee :(
  
  scratch money, its more time since yeah you get me xD
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-02 02:02

  Quote from Pride;272737:

  WHYYY spend so much time and money on a gameee :(
  
  scratch money, its more time since yeah you get me xD

  
  
  Because there shouldn't be 1000 Rank 1 Blacksmiths so easily, IMO. Good skills deserve effort to attain them.
  
  And you're just wasting gold, not RL money. Or I would hope.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-02 02:05

  Quote from Phunkie;272739:

  Because there shouldn't be 1000 Rank 1 Blacksmiths so easily, IMO. Good skills deserve effort to attain them.
  
  And you're just wasting gold, not RL money. Or I would hope.

  
  
  Yeah thats why i edited it lmao i was like, wait we are already wasting gold on other things anyways
• Malogg wrote on 2011-01-02 03:19

  Quote from Phunkie;272731:

  I feel like there should be no Merchant class. I believe everyone should endure ranking the Life skill tab both painfully and honorably.
  
  It shouldn't be easy to get Rank 1 Blacksmith.

  
  
  I agree. +rep.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2011-01-02 05:53
  Lol i just thought of this but...
  
  With these class stat boosts, does that mean even age 25+ characters would still be getting stats from leveling even though they're so old? xD
• Dixon wrote on 2011-01-02 06:00

  Quote from DarkLord7;272666:

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  Hmm... That's a good idea.
  
  Also, regarding the stat bonuses, the knight class for example, gives +.5 Str. Wouldn't it be much, much better if instead it gave x3 Str per level?
  Because at the moment, giants receive double the amount of Str per level than humans do. But when G13 comes, any human with the knight class/job will revieve .75 Str, and giants with the knight job will only receive 1 Str. Humans and giant's melee is already too similar, this is adding insult to injury. It would make much more sense if instead it gave x3 Str. Humans would still receive .75, and giants would receive 1.5. I'm sure a lot of people will complain about my idea. But melee IS giant's specialty. At the moment, I feel like we are being robbed of that. I don't give a damn if giants are penalized more in other areas of combat. I chose to be a giant because I wanted to be best at melee. I don't care if giants have no range, and are bad at magic. All I want is better melee, which is what we are supposed to have. At least I am not like some elves who complain about wanting more Str. I'm sure this comment will make a ton of people rage at me, but whatever... O.o
  
  EDIT: This would also benefit everyone, I believe, if applied to the other jobs.[/COLOR]

  
  
  No no no hell no.
  
  The Job System has already been ROBBED of its real purpose. A million masteries everyone is going to have, free stats without a penalty for it in sight, no class-specific souped up equipment sets that now everyone is going to have. For example, they had to nerf the magic masteries. In their original state, dedicated mages were punished with very few non-magical options with which to hold their own, but were compensated with a whopping 15% Cast Time Reduction attached to the respective Elemental Masteries.
  
  But no, people didn't want to have to think, people didn't want to ever choose between post-g13 job-specific skills.
  
  As it stands in the official, the job system is just ****ing stupid. HEY LOOK FREE STATS AND FREE X2 SKILL EXP. NO DOWNSIDES. We do not need to make it worse by magnifying racial imbalances and class stat gain freebies.
• Everwanderer wrote on 2011-01-02 06:01

  Quote from Phunkie;272731:

  I feel like there should be no Merchant class. I believe everyone should endure ranking the Life skill tab both painfully and honorably.
  
  It shouldn't be easy to get Rank 1 Blacksmith.

  
  
  You have to consider that mabi is aging, and the time before the inevitable shutdown draws near.
  There's new players every other day, so you can't have skills that can take a year or more (rich players, before you attack this point, please consider that I'm talking about new people here, not you guys with the overinflated wallets =) ) like BS work the same as always. People want to experience these skills, and making things a bit easier (And legit) won't hurt much.
  
  I've been saying this for years, but mabi needs "secondary" life skills that help with gathering mats. In the case of BS, it gets sometimes a little ****tarded with the high quality items needed to rank the skill. Farming is a good start from what i've read, it helps with herb gathering without the need for a bloody glitch (Yet people will find a way to glithc this too to make it faster, mark my words), now they need to do something like that for bloody leathers!
• Iyasenu wrote on 2011-01-02 06:07

  Quote from Everwanderer;273015:

  You have to consider that mabi is aging, and the time before the inevitable shutdown draws near.
  There's new players every other day, so you can't have skills that can take a year or more (rich players, before you attack this point, please consider that I'm talking about new people here, not you guys with the overinflated wallets =) ) like BS work the same as always. People want to experience these skills, and making things a bit easier (And legit) won't hurt much.
  
  I've been saying this for years, but mabi needs "secondary" life skills that help with gathering mats. In the case of BS, it gets sometimes a little ****tarded with the high quality items needed to rank the skill. Farming is a good start from what i've read, it helps with herb gathering without the need for a bloody glitch (Yet people will find a way to glitch this too to make it faster, mark my words), now they need to do something like that for bloody leathers!

  
  
  I agree.
  
  A leather gathering skill would be nice.
  Use a gathering knife on defeated beast monsters (or things like them, like goblins and kobolds).
  
  Though that really sounds a lot like what they have in WoW... but that's not bad.
  
  
  Relying purely on drops for things you need tons of is annoying.
• Everwanderer wrote on 2011-01-02 06:13

  Quote from Iyasenu;273018:

  I agree.
  
  A leather gathering skill would be nice.
  Use a gathering knife on defeated beast monsters (or things like them, like goblins and kobolds).
  
  Though that really sounds a lot like what they have in WoW... but that's not bad.
  
  
  Relying purely on drops for things you need tons of is annoying.

  
  
  I actually play WoW from time to time, so yeah, i got inspired by the skinning job.
  And before some of you hate the proposal of this skill because I got it from WoW.. duh! is not like WoW invented skinning, nor is it like it's the only game that uses a similar concept... there are other games that use this, i just got the inspiration from WoW because I played it in between a mabi break!
• Malogg wrote on 2011-01-03 21:04

  Quote from Dixon;273013:

  No no no hell no.
  
  The Job System has already been ROBBED of its real purpose. A million masteries everyone is going to have, free stats without a penalty for it in sight, no class-specific souped up equipment sets that now everyone is going to have. For example, they had to nerf the magic masteries. In their original state, dedicated mages were punished with very few non-magical options with which to hold their own, but were compensated with a whopping 15% Cast Time Reduction attached to the respective Elemental Masteries.
  
  But no, people didn't want to have to think, people didn't want to ever choose between post-g13 job-specific skills.
  
  As it stands in the official, the job system is just ****ing stupid. HEY LOOK FREE STATS AND FREE X2 SKILL EXP. NO DOWNSIDES. We do not need to make it worse by magnifying racial imbalances and class stat gain freebies.

  
  
  As odd as it may sound, I agree with you 100%. The classes are the most pointless thing ever. Sure, it's great getting stat bonuses and faster skill training, but everyone needs to look at the big picture. The penalties were the only thing that made sense. Without them, there is literally no point. They may as well just let every player have every class at once. They either need to bring back the penalties, or make us unable to switch classes. As a matter of fact, I think not being able to switch classes sounds like a perfect idea. However, there would need to be a 'jack of all trades' class, that added minor boosts in everything.
  Plus, the classes are basically mocking all of the skills we have worked so hard to get. It's like what Phunkie said, some skills should be difficult to rank. I don't like knowing that noobs will be able to rank all of their skills twice as fast as I was, with no penalty whatsoever.
  I know that I complain about giants a lot, but don't you at least think we deserve to have giant skill training increased? I mean, what the hell is that all about??! They make a melee class and don't include giant skills!?! I declare bull**** on that one. Smooth move, devcat. T.T
• Xemnas wrote on 2011-01-03 21:09

  Quote from DarkLord7;274735:

  Smooth move, [SIZE="4"]nexon[/SIZE]. T.T

  
  
  Why does everyone blame Nexon? It's [SIZE="5"]DevCat[/SIZE] that made the classes/everything for Mabinogi, Nexon just hosts it.
• Kyreffer wrote on 2011-01-03 21:28
  This is sounding a lot like big bang in Maplestory...
• Kenero wrote on 2011-01-03 21:30
  Maybe the class system needs to be changed in that only certain masteries will be applied to that class.
  
  Meaning you need to be an alchemist to use Earth Mastery etc... or Wizard to be able to use Hailstorm, etc.
  
  You need to be warrior to use the Thames Armor or Dragon Tooth...
  
  Wizard to use Trinity Staff etc.
  
  Alchemist for the Cressedia suit etc.