*rage@throwing attack*: A discussion?

• Claudia wrote on 2011-01-03 02:09
  So this is a qq/rage/discussion about what might be the worst skill ever invented: Throwing Attack.
  
  WHYWHYWHY.
  First, you give Giants a ranged skill. YAY.
  Then it has...a 25 second cooldown? LOLWTF.
  And the cooldown never goes away.
  And it's the only Ranged skill Giants get. Sure, Giants are melee beasts, they don't need ranging attacks, but if you're gonna give us one, you might as well do it decently.
  + javelins barely stack, the highest they stack is 50 I believe depending on what type.
  
  The question/qq part is, why make such a skill? I would definitely get r1 if it wasn't for the absurd cooldown, and lack of equipment/javelins [and javelins aren't cheap apparently].
  
  So how do you feel about it? If it doesn't affect you, feel free to comment and read but just move on. ~.~ I'm curious as to how other giants feel about the skill. I seriously think it would have potential if somebody had actually worked on it, because it feels like the skill was just thrown in and done half-assed.
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-03 02:21
  It actually used to be spammable at much, much lower damage before the latest update... Now they get a powerful blow that's only available once every 25 seconds. Devcat just hates giant range, if you could even call it that.
• Phanterz wrote on 2011-01-03 02:23
  It's' supposed to be a joke I think.
  
  Or just a way to lure.
  
  Giants aren't suppose to have ranged, but it's the easiest way of hitting 1800+ range.
• Claudia wrote on 2011-01-03 02:26
  Sigh, devcat.
  I'd rather how lower damage over no cooldown 8l
• Zid wrote on 2011-01-03 02:28
  [Image: http://i52.tinypic.com/wvzy0y.png]

  
  
  Here's my Ranged Giant.
  
  It's useless by itself, but it goes well with any other combat field. Sure, I don't have the DPS of Melee Elves, but I'm pretty proud of my Ranged Giant.
  
  Pro-tip: Throwing Attack is better than most hybrid forms of combat, as I found out.
• Claudia wrote on 2011-01-03 02:30

  Quote from Zid;273824:

  [Image: http://i52.tinypic.com/wvzy0y.png]

  
  
  Here's my Ranged Giant.
  
  It's useless by itself, but it goes well with any other combat field. Sure, I don't have the DPS of Melee Elves, but I'm pretty proud of my Ranged Giant.
  
  Pro-tip: Throwing Attack is better than most hybrid forms of combat, as I found out.

  
  
  Haha, that's kinda awesome.
  Even if they removed just the cooldown, the skill would be godly. ;_;
• Nikachu wrote on 2011-01-03 02:38
  They put the cooldown so giants wouldn't be spamming high damage.
  Every skill has it's ups and downs to make the game fair.
• Claudia wrote on 2011-01-03 02:39

  Quote from Nikachu;273844:

  They put the cooldown so giants wouldn't be spamming high damage.
  Every skill has it's ups and downs to make the game fair.

  
  
  That's true, but I wouldn't mind a damage nerf in return for no to a small cooldown.
• Zid wrote on 2011-01-03 02:42

  Quote from Claudia;273831:

  Haha, that's kinda awesome.
  Even if they removed just the cooldown, the skill would be godly. ;_;

  
  
  This skill kind of is, when combined with others.
  
  For example, Melee Giants will, on occasion, find targets that they would like to hit from far away. So which to use? Magic, Alchemy, or Ranged? If it's just that one time use, and the next similar situation will definitely be more than 25 seconds away, then why not use r1 Ranged? 900+ damage there, more if the hit is a critical one. That's a whole lot more than Lightningbolt or Water Cannon can do in a single shot. Only thing that's close to its usefulness in that situation is Elven Magnum Shot.
  
  Of course, if you still want to do steady DPS instead of burst, Water Cannon is the better choice. It's just not as spammable or high of a DPS as Ranged, sadly.
• Nikachu wrote on 2011-01-03 03:01
  Throwing is nice with a knuckle combo, in my opinion.
  
  throw>charge>kill>enjoy.
  
  Should almost be a confirmed kill. During that combo, your 25 seconds should be up, and get ready to throw another one.
• Malogg wrote on 2011-01-03 20:27
  Screw throwing attack! I would trade throwing attack, AND 100% of our magic, for more strength and melee skills. Any day of the week! Our melee is becoming more and more similar to humans. *sigh*
• Kenero wrote on 2011-01-03 21:21

  Quote from DarkLord7;274704:

  Screw throwing attack! I would trade throwing attack, AND 100% of our magic, for more strength and melee skills. Any day of the week! Our melee is becoming more and more similar to humans. *sigh*

  
  
  They need a special melee/range hybrid skill instead...
  
  Rage of Giants
  An Ancient Technique passed down by the Ancient Giants. It is said that this skill was once used to embue the innate primal instinct of giants in the most sacred and divine discipline, thus increasing muscle mass and the five senses. It is said that Giants who master this skill can even use the very air pressure to damage opponents far away with nothing but focus rage and determination.
  
  AP Cost to Rank 1: 502
  
  How to Obtain:
  
  1) You need rank 9 Combat Mastery, Rank C Sword Mastery, Rank C Blunt Mastery, and Rank A Windmill
  2) Talk to Krug, he will give ask for you to collect an Emerald (obtainable from Metallurgy). Once you deliver the Emerald, he will ask you to go see Duncan.
  3) Talk to Duncan and listen to his story. At the end he'll ask you a question from his story. Choose, "Inner Rage Control" as the answer and then he will direct you to Trefor.
  4) Talk to Trefor and he will give you a book, read the book and you will be given the Note of Rage.
  5) Talk to Comgan of Bangor and he will bless the Note of Rage which will then become the Pass of Rage. Drop it at Barri Dungeon to run it.
  1. The Dungeon consist of 5 floors and you can bring up to 3 party mates
  2. The Boss is the Ancestral Giant Ghost, please go to its monster page for details on how to defeat him.
  3. Once Complete, you will receive the Rage of Giants skill at Rank Novice, make sure to prepare 7 AP beforehand to rank it to F.
  4. Should you ever lose the Pass, talk to Comgan with the Keyword "Rage of Giant" to reobtain it.
  
  
  
  Rank Novice
  No Effect
  
  
  Rank F
  Time Limit: 2 Minutes
  Cool Down: 5 Minutes
  Total Strength Added: 2
  Total Balance Added: 1%
  Increase Melee Damage by 10%
  Increase Stamina Recovery by 5%
  Chance to Projectile Your Attacks 5%
  Range of Projectile - 400
  
  
  Rank 9
  Time Limit: 3 Minutes
  Cool Down: 5 Minutes
  Total Strength Added: 22
  Total Balance Added: 7%
  Maximum Injury Bonus: 10%
  Minimum Injury Bonus: 5%
  Increase Melee Damage by 20%
  Increase Stamina Recovery by 20%
  Chance to Projectile your Attacks 15%
  Range of Projectile - 600
  
  
  Rank 5
  Time Limit: 4 Minutes
  Cool Down: 4 Minutes
  Total Strength Added: 32
  Total Balance Added: 10%
  Maximum Injury Bonus: 20%
  Minimum Injury Bonus: 10%
  Increase Melee Damage by 25%
  Increase Stamina Recovery by 25%
  Chance to Projectile your Attacks 20%
  Range of Projectile - 700
  
  
  Rank 1
  Time Limit: 5 Minutes
  Cool Down: 4 Minutes
  Total Strength Added: 44
  Total Balance Added: 15%
  Maximum Injury Bonus: 30%
  Minimum Injury Bonus: 15%
  Increase Melee Damage by 30%
  Increase Stamina Recovery by 30%
  Chance to Projectile your Attacks 30%
  Range of Projectile - 900
  
  Details
  *When Projectile is thrown, its splash range will be dependent on the skill and weaponry use. With windmill, the Increased Projectile Range will cover in a circle, while using a two-handed weapon will only increase the projectile reach infront of you.
  *Projectile Reach counts as a Range Attack, meaning it will not trigger counter.
  **It is nullified by Natural Shield.
  *The Damage of the Projectile will be based off the original hit. Meaning if rank 1 smash is used, the damage of the projectile will be rank 1 smash.
  *The Projectiles will hit all enemies on its path
  
  
  ^ Would be fun if giants got a range/melee hybrid skill like that, but it would be OP, no?
• Xemnas wrote on 2011-01-03 21:34
  I'd just like the cooldown to be removed/lowered to at least 5 seconds.
• Dixon wrote on 2011-01-03 21:56
  I'd just like a Bow.
  
  it's ****ing stupid that we get 3/4s of a character.
• jking012 wrote on 2011-01-03 22:31

  Quote from Nikachu;273885:

  Throwing is nice with a knuckle combo, in my opinion.
  
  throw>charge>kill>enjoy.
  
  Should almost be a confirmed kill. During that combo, your 25 seconds should be up, and get ready to throw another one.

  
  
  THIS.... DOES NOT* work.. lol .... what are you playing? cause it aint mabi... if you do that combo... you would have aggro'd the mosnter and your charge has a 50/50 chance of hittting lol or you get ***** slapped during charge