*rage@throwing attack*: A discussion?

• Meikeru wrote on 2011-01-03 22:35
  Argh! That combo was the sole reason that I would play on my giant. You had to kill my joy huh?
• Claudia wrote on 2011-01-03 22:41

  Quote from Xemnas;274755:

  I'd just like the cooldown to be removed/lowered to at least 5 seconds.

  
  
  And I agree with you!
  
  

  Quote from Dixon;274782:

  I'd just like a Bow.
  
  it's ****ing stupid that we get 3/4s of a character.

  
  
  I don't know, I really like the unique feeling I get with my atlatl[sp lulz?]. I was honestly excited the first time I played a Giant, because I was thinking, "WOW, WHAT A COOL RANGED ATTACK GIANTS GET!"
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  >25 second cooldown
  
  
  FFFFFFFUUUUUUU-
• Dixon wrote on 2011-01-03 22:43

  Quote from Claudia;274816:

  And I agree with you!
  
  
  
  I don't know, I really like the unique feeling I get with my atlatl[sp lulz?]. I was honestly excited the first time I played a Giant, because I was thinking, "WOW, WHAT A COOL RANGED ATTACK GIANTS GET!"
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  >25 second cooldown
  
  
  FFFFFFFUUUUUUU-

  
  
  Maybe if they had separated this new throwing attack from the old one (and buffed the old one a bit).
• Juno wrote on 2011-01-04 00:44
  Throwing attack could do 7 million damage a pop and still be nigh worthless on a 25 second cooldown. Any attack that gives a monster enough time to aggro and kill twice over before being able to use it again is not sufficient. The reasoning is probably along the same lines as the lack of play dead/stone throw, Devcat has this crazy notion that giants are overpowered.
  
  Then again, they consistently prove that they either don't care about balancing games or are just completely inept at it.
• User495 wrote on 2011-01-04 00:58
  if anything I'd be satisfied with a knockdown like firebolt (makes more sense as well)
  
  
  I think it'd be cool if there was a semi-passive skill that can be learned when a giant obtains r1 Taunt/Windguard/Combat Mastery
  that does something similiar to like a pressure field around the giant that slow enemies down to a walk when active
• Cryosite wrote on 2011-01-04 01:31
  I like how this skill used with jousing javelins makes giants 1st tier pvp'rs overseas.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-04 01:45
  i have a friend who mastered it. first giant to master it too in ruairi i believe.
• Malogg wrote on 2011-01-04 03:51

  Quote from Juno;275028:

  Throwing attack could do 7 million damage a pop and still be nigh worthless on a 25 second cooldown. Any attack that gives a monster enough time to aggro and kill twice over before being able to use it again is not sufficient. [SIZE="3"][SIZE="3"]The reasoning is probably along the same lines as the lack of play dead/stone throw, Devcat has this crazy notion that giants are overpowered.
  [/SIZE][/SIZE]
  Then again, they consistently prove that they either don't care about balancing games or are just completely inept at it.

  
  
  This. Still waiting on a final skill. Plus Knight class doesn't train giant skills. Play dead, I can live without. But I see no reason for us not to have rock throwing. O.o
• Zid wrote on 2011-01-04 03:58

  Quote from DarkLord7;275247:

  Plus Knight class doesn't train giant skills.

  
  
  Yes, it does.
  
  In fact, Throw Attack falls under the warrior class, not archer class. I'm guessing because it relies on Strength for further damage.
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-04 04:11

  Quote from Zid;275251:

  Yes, it does.
  
  In fact, Throw Attack falls under the warrior class, not archer class. I'm guessing because it relies on Strength for further damage.

  
  
  Wait, does it mean that racial skills also get the bonus? (wiki page on Jobs seems to omit all of them)
  
  If so, hooray for easymode Mirage Missile mastery 8D
• Zid wrote on 2011-01-04 04:43

  Quote from radionoise;275271:

  Wait, does it mean that racial skills also get the bonus? (wiki page on Jobs seems to omit all of them)
  
  If so, hooray for easymode Mirage Missile mastery 8D

  
  
  Yes. Same with Final Shot. The blue words (with the 2) underneath the skill training numbers means 2x training from chosen class.
  
  

  [Image: http://i55.tinypic.com/kvm7p.png]

  
  
  Also, if anybody isn't convinced that the Critical Hit skill is the most important skill for archers, well...
  
  

  [Image: http://i52.tinypic.com/2jgrc6.png]

  
  
  Only the Archer class gets 2x training for Critical Hit. Warrior class gets 2x training for Sharp Mind though (like that's actually helpful >_>). The only combat skill that doesn't get 2x training at all is Evasion. Magic tab is covered by Mage class, while Alchemy tab is covered by Alchemist class, if there's anybody that don't understand that. And Life tab is, yes, still the grindfest world.
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-04 04:48

  Quote from Zid;275308:

  Yes. Same with Final Shot. The blue words (with the 2) underneath the skill training numbers means 2x training from chosen class.
  
  

  [Image: http://i55.tinypic.com/kvm7p.png]

  
  
  Also, if anybody isn't convinced that the Critical Hit skill is the most important skill for archers, well...
  
  

  [Image: http://i52.tinypic.com/2jgrc6.png]

  
  
  Only the Archer class gets 2x training for Critical Hit. Warrior class gets 2x training for Sharp Mind though (like that's actually helpful >_>). The only combat skill that doesn't get 2x training at all is Evasion. Magic tab is covered by Mage class, while Alchemy tab is covered by Alchemist class, if there's anybody that don't understand that. And Life tab is, yes, still the grindfest world.

  
  
  Thanks for the information, I was bummed out that racials wouldn't be affected but now all my worries are gone. Though, if anything, something should boost Evasion... the skill is hell to train unless you shack yourself up with a shadow archer right after maintenance and while hyper AI is at full blast.
• Zid wrote on 2011-01-04 04:55
  This also means that Giants actually have a use for Archer class, though not obvious from first glance.
• Offspring wrote on 2011-01-04 05:02

  Quote from DarkLord7;275247:

  
  
  This. Still waiting on a final skill. Plus Knight class doesn't train giant skills. Play dead, I can live without. But I see no reason for us not to have rock throwing. O.o

  
  
  because I'd turn into Boulder Throw. Heck you might as well give it the same abilities as crash shot seeing as a giant exploding boulder would hurt... ALOT.
• BizarreJuju wrote on 2011-01-04 19:07
  They could of atleast lowered the prof for ranking throw attack up to r1. I still think hitting a target more than 2000 times with a 25 sec cooldown is a scam.