Hard mode?

• paladin wrote on 2011-01-22 16:35
  Does anyone do hard mode?
  Any real point in doing it?
  I used to think it made all battles give an extra core but some of the higher raids like hidden
  Dont give an extra core
  Does hard give extra exp?
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-22 17:01
  it's for getting enchantment elixirs,
  
  and extra challenge as well.
  
  edit- woa what hard mode? disregard that, I read Hero mode >_>
  
  but yeah, hard mode increases boss damage, decreases boss's HP and makes one extra evil core drop.
  the decrease boss hp is the main reason I run it, especially if im farming, then the evil core is nice too.
• Chesham wrote on 2011-01-22 17:50
  Hard mode? ^ Pretty sure it's hero mode that drops the elixers. And hard mode should drop and extra core on every battle, I'm pretty sure that applies to hidden/nightmare.
• foreignreign wrote on 2011-01-22 17:54
  I do hard mode for transparent blade runs.
• TheBoulder wrote on 2011-01-22 18:19
  Hard mode is usually done for two reasons: The boss has lower health than in normal mode, and an extra evil core does drop, regardless of mission. Hard does not give extra exp, but it does give extra gold (a small % boost though).
• snsdyoona wrote on 2011-01-22 18:36
  i wud suggest hardmode . gives more gold + evil core
  normal mode is only for titles because yu can see teh bosses HP
  hardmode has 2.5 hp bars less than normal mode bosses and is perfect for raids
• Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-01-23 03:31
  @Mama/Boulder
  
  Where does it say that HardMode HP is lower?
  
  From what I've experienced, it's the same HP/Def, just usually better players.
  
  I'll try testing it today, but I'm pretty sure its the same, as stated in the description of selecting Hard.
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-23 04:09

  Quote from Andy-Buddy;301231:

  @Mama/Boulder
  
  Where does it say that HardMode HP is lower?
  
  From what I've experienced, it's the same HP/Def, just usually better players.
  
  I'll try testing it today, but I'm pretty sure its the same, as stated in the description of selecting Hard.

  
  
  trust me man, if you're going through the game determining how it works through tooltips then you're gonna end up sorely disappointed.
• Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-01-23 05:08

  Quote from Mama;301273:

  trust me man, if you're going through the game determining how it works through tooltips then you're gonna end up sorely disappointed.

  
  
  Still, it's not good to distribute information that has not been confirmed at all.
• newpants wrote on 2011-01-23 05:52
  it's very confirmed, and it also says normal has more hp than hard if you look on normal.
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-23 05:54

  Quote from Andy-Buddy;301356:

  Still, it's not good to distribute information that has not been confirmed at all.

  
  
  its fact. the only reason people have doubt is because the health bar isn't visible.
  
  youd be surprised at how much you're assuming to be correct in this game when it comes to stats, percentages, and the like, especially when biased by in-game info, which is wrong a lot of the time.
  
  but yea, the mode difference is clear-cut.
• TheBoulder wrote on 2011-01-23 05:58
  on boat launch menu:
  Normal:
  -Enemies have high hp but don't hit as hard.
  -Boss HP is displayed
  -You may bring more secondary weapons
  
  Hard:
  -Enemies have normal HP and powerful attacks
  -Boss HP is not displayed.
  
  When joining a hard boat:
  -Enemies have normal HP but powerful attacks
  -Boss HP is not displayed
  -Drops 1 additional Evil Core
  -Increases the gold reward by 20%
  
  I infer from there that the enemies in Hard mode have lower HP.
• GregHouse wrote on 2011-01-23 06:57

  Quote from TheBoulder;301405:

  on boat launch menu:
  Normal:
  -Enemies have high hp but don't hit as hard.
  -Boss HP is displayed
  -You may bring more secondary weapons
  
  Hard:
  -Enemies have normal HP and powerful attacks
  -Boss HP is not displayed.
  
  When joining a hard boat:
  -Enemies have normal HP but powerful attacks
  -Boss HP is not displayed
  -Drops 1 additional Evil Core
  -Increases the gold reward by 20%
  
  I infer from there that the enemies in Hard mode have lower HP.

  
  
  This. Besides, try running both with the same party, and dont look at the health bar, it will take a lil bit longer to clear Normal.
• paladin wrote on 2011-01-23 19:29
  Then why on both hard mdoe and normal hidden
  Only 3 cores droped
• Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-01-23 19:35

  Quote from paladin;301846:

  Then why on both hard mdoe and normal hidden
  Only 3 cores droped

  
  
  IIRC, Normal Dropped 3 for me, while Hardmode dropped 5. (3 from Lagh, 2 from Giant.)