Your thoughts on hailstorm

• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-23 18:48

  Quote from Pride;301793:

  Then why put it in the magic tab?
  
  
  FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU

  
  
  Because mages have a wide selection of powerful AoE attacks but limited effective single-target spells. Once it's loaded, Hailstorm is basically how bolts were supposed to be to begin with.
  
  Edit: Didn't bother to check if these were the max, but with my lackluster INT and un-upgraded Staff here's my r5 damage:
  
  Non-crit:
  

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  Crit:
  

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  I get 100% critical without an enchanted staff and using my normal range setup... add lizard/stiff to the staff and with 110% crit should be enough to crit on most HM mobs without having to bother with having separate equipment for Hailstorm.
• gentrone wrote on 2011-01-23 19:46

  Quote from Kaeporo;301785:

  The damage is good.
  The DPS is great.
  The range is poor.
  The mana consumption is poor.
  The multiagro control is poor.
  It doesn't ignore protection when determining critical rate
  It gives dexterity
  
  Conclusion: Ranger skill

  
  
  lol
  
  

  Quote from radionoise;301807:

  Because mages have a wide selection of powerful AoE attacks but limited effective single-target spells. Once it's loaded, Hailstorm is basically how bolts were supposed to be to begin with.

  
  
  Agreed.
  
  
  You guys are ignoring the fact that Ice Mastery and a Reduction Set drastically reduce mana cost (around 90ish), and help with DPS. It's a versatile spell because you don't have to make use of a wand to cast it, you could previously use any Inter Magic (because it requires a staff), according to the situation, or any of the future third tiers. As radionoise said, it's specialized spell. I wouldn't rank it to use it as my main attack.
  
  Although let's wait for Tatsigi, he will have a better explanation. Blizaga, why do you make another thread about Hailstorm ._. We've had this discussion several times already.
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-23 20:18

  Quote from gentrone;301864:

  You guys are ignoring the fact that Ice Mastery and a Reduction Set drastically reduce mana cost (around 90ish)

  
  
  From what I've heard, mana reduction + ice mastery takes the spell down to ~120 MP.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2011-01-23 20:20
  Personnaly, at Rank 5 I've been critting 6ks already with a clean Staff.
  Because of my equipment and skills, Hailstorm is only 120 mana (30% reduction) and for that much mana, it's pretty good.
  
  My int been around 350~
• Ryoko wrote on 2011-01-23 20:33
  It is worth ranking for decent damage, just a lot of Mana.
• gentrone wrote on 2011-01-23 20:44

  Quote from radionoise;301914:

  From what I've heard, mana reduction + ice mastery takes the spell down to ~120 MP.

  
  
  According to Tatsigi you get -2% consumption for every 100 Int. But you're right, it's about 110ish. (just a 10~30 MP difference)
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-23 20:58

  Quote from gentrone;301943:

  According to Tatsigi you get -2% consumption for every 100 Int. But you're right, it's about 110ish. (just a 10~30 MP difference)

  
  
  Does the INT reduction affect Hailstorm? It takes 170 MP every time I use it, even if I'm in trans (~500 INT)
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-23 21:08
  uhm wait. how does it take 120 with mana reduce?
  
  its 4 mana per second. meaning with 20% itll make it 90 mana to load it for 30 seconds. plus the 50 to actually load it its 140... right?
• gentrone wrote on 2011-01-23 21:09

  Quote from radionoise;301966:

  Does the INT reduction affect Hailstorm? It takes 170 MP every time I use it, even if I'm in trans (~500 INT)

  
  
  That's what Tatsigi said :T_T:
  
  I think he is rank 5 now, I'll ask.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-23 21:11

  Quote from gentrone;301986:

  That's what Tatsigi said :T_T:
  
  I think he is rank 5 now, I'll ask.

  
  who in teh hell is Tatsigi?
• radionoise wrote on 2011-01-23 21:38

  Quote from Pride;301985:

  uhm wait. how does it take 120 with mana reduce?
  
  its 4 mana per second. meaning with 20% itll make it 90 mana to load it for 30 seconds. plus the 50 to actually load it its 140... right?

  
  
  The Ice Mastery skill makes reduces Hailstorm's MP requirement by 20%. I think mana reduction clothing takes away 10% afterwards.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2011-01-23 22:12

  Quote from radionoise;302013:

  The Ice Mastery skill makes reduces Hailstorm's MP requirement by 20%. I think mana reduction clothing takes away 10% afterwards.

  
  
  
  Nope.. Both Ice Mastery skill and mana reduction from clothing reduce Hailstorm togeter.. not one before the other.
  Want a little hint? You need minimum 50 mana to start casting hailstorm if you have absolutly no mana reduction. Any less mana than 50 and you can't even begin casting, the game doesn't let you try.
  If I reduce my mana down to 0 and let it heal and keep spaming the Hailstorm button. (I have rank 1 Ice Mastery and mana reduction clothing) The spell start casting at 35 mana. 35 mana is exactly 70% of 50 mana. So 30% reduced.
  
  Someone said that each 100 int you gain 2% reduction. If that was true. I would have 36% reduction instead.. so I would be able to start casting at 32 mana. Which doesn't happen.
  
  If that 6% from my int was multiplicative instead, it would be 32.9 mana. or 33 for short. Still doesn't happen, I am only alowed to cast starting 35 mana.
  On a side note. when I start casting at 35 mana.. My mana fall down to 0 the moment it's done casting. Meaning it used up 35 mana as well.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-23 23:08

  Quote from Pride;301985:

  uhm wait. how does it take 120 with mana reduce?
  
  its 4 mana per second. meaning with 20% itll make it 90 mana to load it for 30 seconds. plus the 50 to actually load it its 140... right?

  
  
  quoting myself cause i went ignored D: and i wanna know what i did wrong in calculations cause i know i did something wrongg
• Zeo wrote on 2011-01-24 01:09
  I love how people keep saying that Hailstorm is useless.
  
  I'm rank E Hailstorm, and hits 4k critical damage on white skeletons.
  
  Also... someone posted a video of some guy with r1 Hailstorm, finished hardmode Shadow Cast City SM within 8 minutes and 30 seconds (ish) including the boss.
  
  So yes. I would say it's worth ranking up.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-24 01:40

  Quote from Zeo;302211:

  I love how people keep saying that Hailstorm is useless.
  
  I'm rank E Hailstorm, and hits 4k critical damage on white skeletons.
  
  Also... someone posted a video of some guy with r1 Hailstorm, finished hardmode Shadow Cast City SM within 8 minutes and 30 seconds (ish) including the boss.
  
  So yes. I would say it's worth ranking up.

  
  
  
  Post video? :glasses: