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Rydian wrote on 2016-07-22 06:35
1 - Idunno'. Lazy.
2 - Like normal skills, head into shadow missions and shoot stuff. Tara ones usually work well for training because you get almost instant access to groups of enemies in the castle missions. Sulfur Spiders is notable for huge amounts of respawning enemies and The Other Alchemists is notable for low-HP high-CP enemies.
3 - In the quest tab, there's a help button in the upper-right.
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Fabian wrote on 2016-07-22 06:40
2 - I was referring to something more...efficient? Sort of like training Playing Instrument and Dischord on Provocation's barrier spikes or AA'ng zombies in Another World after getting them stuck, etc.
3 - Thanks, I found out just now by doing the Weird Cat quest lol.
One new question! Why is Mabination so empty? It didn't use to be like this last year. owo
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Konrad wrote on 2016-07-22 08:44
One way of getting exploration levels fast is running Iria dungeons (preferably Par) over and over; now you get artifacts at the end of every run which you can sell to any NPC for exp.
Mabination is empty just like the game itself is empty these days. It's just that we don't have whales to keep us afloat.
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-22 18:54
Quote from Konrad;1296939:
One way of getting exploration levels fast is running Iria dungeons (preferably Par) over and over; now you get artifacts at the end of every run which you can sell to any NPC for exp.
Mabination is empty just like the game itself is empty these days. It's just that we don't have whales to keep us afloat.
Still not fast enough (not evendors close to being fast). Your best bet is to get an attack speed set and a pair of Dowra and just attack the dragons in raids.
As for the guy asking questions, the missions really is the most efficient way to train range.
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Lukshad wrote on 2016-07-22 18:56
Mhm, iirc Par dungeons give artifacts that give like 9k exploration exp or so? Not to mention you might accidentally get some Snow Crystals and you can always sell those.
Fabian! Welcome back to mabi ^_^ I don't think I ever knew you in-game, but your green portraits definitely look familiar.
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Rydian wrote on 2016-07-22 22:02
Quote from Fabian;1296937:
2 - I was referring to something more...efficient? Sort of like training Playing Instrument and Dischord on Provocation's barrier spikes or AA'ng zombies in Another World after getting them stuck, etc.
Depends on the skill. Some have no real way of speeding up training and simply need to be spammed (Crash Shot once the hitting/killing is done), others don't work on some enemies (most CC skills on awake golems), etc.
As far as I'm aware, there's no easy multiplier for the Archery skills that are annoying to rank.
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Fabian wrote on 2016-07-23 02:30
Quote from Konrad;1296939:
One way of getting exploration levels fast is running Iria dungeons (preferably Par) over and over; now you get artifacts at the end of every run which you can sell to any NPC for exp.
Mabination is empty just like the game itself is empty these days. It's just that we don't have whales to keep us afloat.
I might just do that. I'll need the Ice Witch at some point for Transformation journal anyways. :)
Quote from ironwoman;1296943:
Still not fast enough (not evendors close to being fast). Your best bet is to get an attack speed set and a pair of Dowra and just attack the dragons in raids.
As for the guy asking questions, the missions really is the most efficient way to train range.
By dragon raids, are you referring to black and white dragon? Or to the other dragons?
"the guy" *sniffs* I thought we used to be BFFs. QQ
Quote from Lukshad;1296944:
Mhm, iirc Par dungeons give artifacts that give like 9k exploration exp or so? Not to mention you might accidentally get some Snow Crystals and you can always sell those.
Fabian! Welcome back to mabi ^_^ I don't think I ever knew you in-game, but your green portraits definitely look familiar.
Par it is, then. ;D
Thanks, man. I remember you from here. Yeah, I don't think we ever met in game. I'll check my FL just in case. :P
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Depends on the skill. Some have no real way of speeding up training and simply need to be spammed (Crash Shot once the hitting/killing is done), others don't work on some enemies (most CC skills on awake golems), etc.
As far as I'm aware, there's no easy multiplier for the Archery skills that are annoying to rank.
I understand. Hopefully 16x training will make this a breeze.
Thank you very much for the help. Everyone pretty much left me with no doubts about my future course of action. :D
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-23 04:29
Yes, the dragon raids.
Not only is it good exp assuming you get the finish, the possible rewards are worth it as I see it.
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Fabian wrote on 2016-07-24 03:04
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Yes, the dragon raids.
Not only is it good exp assuming you get the finish, the possible rewards are worth it as I see it.
I didn't get any exploration exp from them...at least I think I didn't. I killed three sandworms, 4 desert dragons, and got rank 1 on one of them. What do you mean by 'finish'?
Training Spidershot: Should I buy all the cobwebs from the event shop or just make a farm of spiders in Emain? 750g per web is pretty pricey. o_o;
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Yanm wrote on 2016-07-24 04:50
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I didn't get any exploration exp from them...at least I think I didn't. I killed three sandworms, 4 desert dragons, and got rank 1 on one of them. What do you mean by 'finish'?
Training Spidershot: Should I buy all the cobwebs from the event shop or just make a farm of spiders in Emain? 750g per web is pretty pricey. o_o;
If once the dragon dies, if it's laying there with finish on it (Provided you didn't do the last hit to kill it), that's what gets you the exp. Or make a party and hope the person that gets the finish is in your party. They all give exploration exp, and it's a really fast way to level. Problem being everyone knows this and will fight for the finish.
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-24 05:19
As long as you get the most number of hits on a dragon, you'll get finish.
As for spider shot, just make a farm and don't buy. The shop doesn't sell in stack and is not really worth the cost.
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Fabian wrote on 2016-07-24 05:30
Quote from Yanm;1296972:
If once the dragon dies, if it's laying there with finish on it (Provided you didn't do the last hit to kill it), that's what gets you the exp. Or make a party and hope the person that gets the finish is in your party. They all give exploration exp, and it's a really fast way to level. Problem being everyone knows this and will fight for the finish.
Oh, fuck. I thought since the dragons became raids number of hits no longer got you the finish. Bummer. I'm guessing it's time to whip out my beholder swords. I wonder if Nexon has finally made them special upgrade capable?
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As long as you get the most number of hits on a dragon, you'll get finish.
As for spider shot, just make a farm and don't buy. The shop doesn't sell in stack and is not really worth the cost.
I hoped that wasn't the case. Long ago everyone would use crap daggers and it would take hours to kill those bastards just because everyone wanted the finish. QQ
Thanks, I suspected as much. I dropped 30k just to make the 5 traps to get the skill. This is going to take a while...While we are at it, are there any cobweb bags? I'll look it up, but asking just in case I miss something. Maybe my alpaca can make one?o_o
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-24 07:35
Given that you have a decent connection, it's actually not very hard to get last hit on dragons now since the runs are more organized. The only reason why it took long before was because people went all feeder Yasuo mode on it. Most of the people that come to raids now learned that you have to take a few (literally a few) minutes to drag out the dragon and DPS it. Most of the time people will be using FH or bash because they most likely won't care about the exploration exp since they already got them with the Arc Lich sketches, which is still less number of hits than you can get with guns. Basically, just get a CD set if you don't have it already, get a pair of cheap Dowras (or even better, Golden ones since you can basically use right away and not with much care either).
And yes, you can make those pouches with the alpaca.
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Fabian wrote on 2016-07-24 10:03
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Most of the people that come to raids now learned that you have to take a few (literally a few) minutes to drag out the dragon and DPS it.
Ah, so that's why people were talking shit to me. I was just running at the dragon and taking ~10% before dying (too lazy to make mana pots). People were like "don't revive him". I did the only reasonable thing and started Windmilling like crazy. :D
CD set...I think I have one somewhere. I will have to start looking for it. Seems like a great investment, if only to spite those fuckers. So gunner > dual wielding in terms of speed? Does it matter if I have no gunner skills? Also I have r1 Blackstars, are those any good? (never got around gunner before quitting)
Aha! I knew those alpacas were a worthy investment! Thanks for the help, you are a great person!
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-24 18:00
CD set is pretty cheap right now thanks to gacha release. You can probably get the whole set under 5 mil, and the enchants are pretty easy to get too. For guns you want dowra and only dowra if you're looking to get finishes on dragon. So no, don't go black stars.