Two Teens Found Dead With Drugs and Four Loko

• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-26 05:13

  Quote from Athde;304867:

  You mean it now can't be considered assault with a deadly weapon if i smack my friend upside the head with one?

  
  
  lmao
  
  No, it just means that like all alcoholic drinks, it makes you tired and sleepy after awhile.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-26 05:14

  Quote from Phunkie;304861:

  They brought Four Lokos back here in NYC.
  
  Without caffeine though. I hate it now.

  
  
  You used to like them?
  
  Thought they were banned~~
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-26 05:16

  Quote from Pride;304872:

  You used to like them?
  
  Thought they were banned~~

  
  
  They were banned. Removed the caffeine, then brought back.
  
  I enjoy them. Still do.
  
  The caffeine though was nice since it made ya a little more awake. The problem isn't the drink. It's the person. One has to know his or her limit.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2011-01-26 05:18

  Quote from Pride;304872:

  You used to like them?
  
  Thought they were banned~~

  
  
  they were banned because it had caffeine and alcohol in the first place
  four loko was allowed to come back as long as it's only alcohol
  
  The health risks due to the serving size of four loko and having two polar substances is too high.
  Caffeine and alcohol hurts you when both are in the body at the same time
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-26 19:21

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;304877:

  they were banned because it had caffeine and alcohol in the first place
  four loko was allowed to come back as long as it's only alcohol
  
  The health risks due to the serving size of four loko and having two polar substances is too high.
  Caffeine and alcohol hurts you when both are in the body at the same time

  
  
  id love to learn about they interact with one another.
  I've been taught about alcohol, and caffiene, but rarely about coinciding effects if taken together unless its obvious or a well established connection. It's not like they're combining barbiturates and alcohol to make a racy drink, it's just some sort of extreme energy drink.
  All i know is that alcohol is inhibitory, and caffiene is a stimulant (polar like u mentioned)
  
  if theres enough alcohol to equal one serving in a 4loko, and a crapton of caffiene, mixed with sugar.. that's actually a pretty genius idea. It'd wake up the dead. The real problem is making people only have one, since more is very very dangerous when it comes to alcohol because itll start to inhibit more than just some inhibitory centres in the brain. . .
• Lan wrote on 2011-01-26 19:24

  Quote from Mama;305321:

  id love to learn about they interact with one another.
  I've been taught about alcohol, and caffiene, but rarely about coinciding effects if taken together unless its obvious or a well established connection. It's not like they're combining barbiturates and alcohol to make a racy drink, it's just some sort of extreme energy drink.
  All i know is that alcohol is inhibitory, and caffiene is a stimulant (polar like u mentioned)
  
  if theres enough alcohol to equal one serving in a 4loko, and a crapton of caffiene, mixed with sugar.. that's actually a pretty genius idea. It'd wake up the dead.

  
  
  Hmm when you drink too much alcohol your body responds by making you pass out, when you have caffeine I'm pretty sure it prevents you from passing out making you die from alcohol poisoning since you don't feel the alcohol as much. Well so I've heard.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-26 19:34

  Quote from Lan;305324:

  Hmm when you drink too much alcohol your body responds by making you pass out, when you have caffeine I'm pretty sure it prevents you from passing out making you die from alcohol poisoning since you don't feel the alcohol as much. Well so I've heard.

  
  
  imo drinks like these shouldn't be on the market, and not only cause of my cousin either. I've always opposed to these sort of drinks. so bad for you
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-26 19:35
  There's a lot of other drinks similar to Four Loko out there.
  
  It's just that college kids go crazy over these things--at parties and whatnot--and that's when legislation starts blaming the drinks.
  
  It's not the drinks' fault. If so, then you should downright outlaw a bunch of other things out there. It's the consumer's responsibility to watch how much he or she intakes.
  
  I personally know my limit when it comes to Four Loko. One and I'm good for a whole night. No lie. Two just means vomit.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2011-01-26 19:41
  Of course they shouldn't sell them, but that doesn't mean the problem won't go away.
  
  Teenagers and college students are generally retarded about caffeine. They have a strange fascination with it and crave it all the time despite their bodies having enough energy to do everything an older adult would generally need caffeine to do.
  
  If you find yourself needing caffeine, you're just not managing your sleep well enough. Once or twice for a special occasion is okay, but you really don't need it. And besides, if you need caffeine, coffee is the best way to go. It does the job and it won't destroy your body in the process.
  
  

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  Unfortunately, kids are going to mix red bull with alcohol anyways even if all of this stuff is off the market.
  
  Edit: Also, vomiting shouldn't be your recognized "limit". It should be far before that.
  Vomiting is your body's reaction to the fact that you have so much alcohol in your system that its a last resort defense mechanism to expel as much of your stomach as possible.
  
  It does nasty things to your body when you push yourself that far.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-26 19:42

  Quote from Phunkie;305331:

  There's a lot of other drinks similar to Four Loko out there.
  
  It's just that college kids go crazy over these things--at parties and whatnot--and that's when legislation starts blaming the drinks.
  
  It's not the drinks' fault. If so, then you should downright outlaw a bunch of other things out there. It's the consumer's responsibility to watch how much he or she intakes.
  
  I personally know my limit when it comes to Four Loko. One and I'm good for a whole night. No lie. Two just means vomit.

  
  
  They're still bad for your body regardless though~~ Even one.
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-26 19:43

  Quote from Pride;305339:

  They're still bad for your body regardless though~~ Even one.

  
  
  Well drinking is pretty bad to begin with. xD
  
  Frequently and in large amounts, that is. Drinking wine or whatnot is actually pretty healthy for ya.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-26 19:45

  Quote from Phunkie;305340:

  Well drinking is pretty bad to begin with. xD
  
  Frequently and in large amounts, that is. Drinking wine or whatnot is actually pretty healthy for ya.

  
  
  But I don't drink xD
  
  Like i do but it's very rare since I don't really like beer and thats all everyone brings to parties~
• Cucurbita wrote on 2011-01-26 19:51
  Its the bacteria in red wine that boosts your immune system. Not many other alcoholic beverages have this.
  So a little glass a day after dinner is okay.
  
  Alternatively you can just have a serving of dark chocolate instead, which accomplishes almost the same thing.
  
  I'm not saying you shouldn't drink, but to introduce both a depressant and stimulant in your body just isn't good. Stay away from that. And just don't drink until you're vomiting or passing out. Thats your body raising a red flag and responding to keep you alive.
• manasou wrote on 2011-01-26 20:04
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• Mama wrote on 2011-01-26 20:44
  I can safely say that low or moderate doses of alcohol is actually quite healthy. But 4Loko? The guarine and taurine isn't even at a high enough dose to produce any therapeutic effects with just one can. But the alcohol is enough to equal 3 beers though, and that's borderline too much, it's already putting a damper on judgement which is a bad combination; it just makes it more likely for them to drink more instead of thinking, which causes tragedies, or at least a horrible case of diarrhea the next day.
  
  I'm scared to think about the diuretic effects. It will make you piss like a waterfall >_>.. that makes hangovers more likely from all that lost water, and all that vasoconstriction isn't good for blood pressure or the brain. Way too much trouble. I already have problems keeping hydrated.
  
  the main problem is stupid college kids and underaged people trying to have a good time with the word moderation not even in their vocabulary. they see it as another thrill and an easy way to get drunk, like jager bombs. Removing them from the market will not solve any root problems, but it will remove it as an outlet =/