Torn. :<

• Retard wrote on 2011-02-03 02:09
  What is best for EXP? All seem like options. Except for maybe Sliab of Cuilin becos i have to walk back in forth between Taill.
  
  Sliab of Cuilin
  Their Method
  Shadow Cast City
  
  oooh their method is winning by 1 vote.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-02-03 02:14
  Their Method, rofl. There's not really any debating there since it states on the Wiki what they're exp rates are.
• Zatrox wrote on 2011-02-03 02:37

  Quote from Cynic;317909:

  Their Method, rofl. There's not really any debating there since it states on the Wiki what they're exp rates are.

  
  
  Since when did Wiki take into account the average run speed (and, in turn, efficiency)?
• Cynic wrote on 2011-02-03 03:10

  Quote from Zatrox;317958:

  Since when did Wiki take into account the average run speed (and, in turn, efficiency)?

  
  
  Unless you have the proper skills, Their Method is still easier in that sense. o_O All you have to do is use WM in Their Method.
  The boss of Shadow Cast city is a pain unless you windmill spam it or have some other technique.
• Claudia wrote on 2011-02-03 03:15
  Their Method can be done on autopilot. If you can handle the endless monotony, then TM is the way to go.
  
  Otherwise, do whatever you want.
• M wrote on 2011-02-03 03:58
  Generally their method is best for spamming. It's straight forward and easy for melee... if you're not melee, then you're going to pick one of the others
• Zatrox wrote on 2011-02-03 15:16

  Quote from Cynic;318016:

  Unless you have the proper skills, Their Method is still easier in that sense. o_O All you have to do is use WM in Their Method.
  The boss of Shadow Cast city is a pain unless you windmill spam it or have some other technique.

  
  
  Pet swipes -> Adniel -> Proceed to Windmill/etc.
  
  takes me less than a minute..
• M wrote on 2011-02-03 17:16

  Quote from Zatrox;318558:

  Pet swipes -> Adniel -> Proceed to Windmill/etc.
  
  takes me less than a minute..

  
  
  Adniel isn't really an acceptable method to anything imo... it's too cheap and doesn't guarentee you exp for the kill.
  
  With that said, for a non-melee I can see SCC being easier than their method.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-02-03 21:39

  Quote from Maia;318628:

  Adniel isn't really an acceptable method to anything imo... it's too cheap and doesn't guarentee you exp for the kill.
  
  With that said, for a non-melee I can see SCC being easier than their method.

  
  
  Pet swipes triggers the clones, and Adniel clears the clones.
  Afterwards, pet attack/WM/Smash kills the boss.
  
  Getting Tara SMs tend to be faster because the board is just right outside the altar...
• truefire wrote on 2011-02-04 00:14

  Quote from EndlessDreams;319063:

  Pet swipes triggers the clones, and Adniel clears the clones.
  Afterwards, pet attack/WM/Smash kills the boss.
  
  Getting Tara SMs tend to be faster because the board is just right outside the altar...

  
  
  Adniel is once a day. If you're only completing SCC once every 36 minutes, you really should rethink your training locale, since 1) Their Method can be done 3-5 times on average in that time period and 2) SCC doesn't have a 36 minute time limit.
• Joker wrote on 2011-02-04 00:46

  Quote from Maia;318628:

  Adniel isn't really an acceptable method to anything imo... it's too cheap and doesn't guarentee you exp for the kill.
  
  With that said, for a non-melee I can see SCC being easier than their method.

  
  
  In hard adniel NEVER kills dopple lol
  unless of course you use it .... when there arnt any clones out
• sakraycore wrote on 2011-02-04 02:33
  I'd have to go with SCC regardless of how easy/hard/fast their method is.
  
  I mean, you probably had enough fun with zombies already just from getting windmill r1.
  
  SCC can be extremely easy/fast if you do the difficulty you're most appropriate for. 5 min clear times should be repeatable. For the boss, you can alternate adniel, trans, final hit, etc.
  
  Zombies are really annoying >_>
• truefire wrote on 2011-02-04 03:33

  Quote from sakraycore;319519:

  I'd have to go with SCC regardless of how easy/hard/fast their method is.
  
  I mean, you probably had enough fun with zombies already just from getting windmill r1.
  
  SCC can be extremely easy/fast if you do the difficulty you're most appropriate for. 5 min clear times should be repeatable. For the boss, you can alternate adniel, trans, final hit, etc.
  
  Zombies are really annoying >_>

  
  
  What are you saying? Zombies are so very huggable! :D I don't find the appeal in hugging myself (doppleganger).
  
  Any 5-min run for a melee character that can clear SCC can clear Their Method even faster, which needs no alternation of any cooldowns whatsoever. Besides, the only people who are burnt out from the task of getting Windmill to R1 are people who don't really like the skill in the first place. For me, every time I spin is about 10 stamina points of joy that I share with the world. And then I leap with 5 points of great enthusiasm as I Assault Slash and follow that up by sharing 10 more points of joy! :3
  
  But then again, my necrophilia knows no bounds. The zombies understand me! D:<
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-02-04 04:30

  Quote from truefire;319297:

  Adniel is once a day. If you're only completing SCC once every 36 minutes, you really should rethink your training locale, since 1) Their Method can be done 3-5 times on average in that time period and 2) SCC doesn't have a 36 minute time limit.

  
  
  Well, I don't really spam SCC back to back. I always spend some time doing something else after a SM. Also, for me, when dragon is gone, I have Crash Shot/Fireball to go back on, but that is me.
  
  

  Quote from truefire;319617:

  What are you saying? Zombies are so very huggable! :D I don't find the appeal in hugging myself (doppleganger).
  
  Any 5-min run for a melee character that can clear SCC can clear Their Method even faster, which needs no alternation of any cooldowns whatsoever. Besides, the only people who are burnt out from the task of getting Windmill to R1 are people who don't really like the skill in the first place. For me, every time I spin is about 10 stamina points of joy that I share with the world. And then I leap with 5 points of great enthusiasm as I Assault Slash and follow that up by sharing 10 more points of joy! :3
  
  But then again, my necrophilia knows no bounds. The zombies understand me! D:<

  
  
  For some reason, it takes me much longer to do Their Method HM than it does for SCC HM. Also, Their Method seems to be less experience as well.
  
  As for Adv Missions go, Their Method Adv is pretty easy/mindless though. The protection/hp difference between Their Method Adv and HM seems to be pretty huge.
• sakraycore wrote on 2011-02-04 04:44

  
  Any 5-min run for a melee character that can clear SCC can clear Their Method even faster, which needs no alternation of any cooldowns whatsoever.

  
  
  Actually that depends, SCC can be cleared using any skillset, their method can only be cleared by windmill. The main problem with windmill is that it spreads them, and then you have to chase after them, so that is pretty annoying and wastes a lot of time.
  
  But I guess for a pure melee, this is possible. Since a pure melee would be relying on mainly windmill for SCC as well.