Paladin Vs Dark Knight, which to choose.

• demonlord96 wrote on 2011-02-12 03:42
  So, I've always wondered what the exact differences between the Paladin and Dark Knight were. Do they each have specific skill builds that they work better with? Do they have different strengths and weaknesses?
  I was just wondering if anyone could possibly explain to me what the differences between the two are and what each is best with.
• Wing wrote on 2011-02-12 03:53
  I would go with paladin since you always get str/dex rolls...unless you go mage and turn dk for int rolls.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2011-02-12 04:01
  Melee and alchemy go pally, range and magic go DK.
• Yanm wrote on 2011-02-12 04:06
  http://mabination.com/threads/3140-Paladin-and-Dark-Knight-Comparison?highlight=Paladin+Dark+Knight+comparison
• radionoise wrote on 2011-02-12 04:08
  Melee+Range+Alchemy -> Pally
  Melee+Range+Magic -> DK
• Ryoko wrote on 2011-02-12 04:14
  DK mostly is for mages, and Pally for Melee more. Range is pretty even amongost both of them, though.
  
  DKs get Control of Darkness, which is pretty useful for some people, while Pallys don't.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2011-02-12 04:15
  ^ Pretty much that, you're gonna be transformed for a little over 5 minutes most of the time so you shouldn't get all fustrated over the decision.
  
  No one ever uses control of darkness. You need to pay 1k everytime you want to use it...
• Kaeporo wrote on 2011-02-12 04:15
  [SIZE="1"]Paladin
  Melee Damage (109-134)
  Average Melee Damage (129)
  
  Ranged Damage (84-134)
  Average Ranged Damage (124)
  
  Critical (5%)
  
  Melee ADACT (134)
  Ranged ADACT (129)
  
  
  Dark Knight
  Average Melee Damage: 75
  Activation rate: 25% Strength Bonus (360) Damage (108-144) Average Damage (136) Average Contribution (34)
  Activation rate: 25% Strength Bonus (200) Damage (60-80) Average Damage (76) Average Contribution (19)
  Activation rate: 50% Strength Bonus (120) Damage (36-48) Average Damage (45) Average Contribution (22)
  
  Average Ranged Damage: 92
  Activation rate: 50% Dexterity Bonus (360) Damage (72-144) Average Damage (129) Average Contribution (64)
  Activation rate: 25% Dexterity Bonus (200) Damage (40-80) Average Damage (72) Average Contribution (18)
  Activation rate: 25% Dexterity Bonus (120) Damage (24-48) Average Damage (43) Average Contribution (10)
  
  Average Critical: 22%
  Activation rate: 25% Critical (36%) Average Contribution (9%)
  Activation rate: 50% Critical (20%) Average Contribution (10%)
  Activation rate: 25% Critical (12%) Average Contribution (3%)
  
  Melee ADACT (97)
  Ranged ADACT (114)[/SIZE]
  
  http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Transformations
  
  Paladin will generally provide greater melee and ranged damage than Dark Knight. If you use melee/ranged frequently, you'll absolutely hate intelligence rolls. Dark Knights obtain a large amount of critical from transformation but it still doesn't beat the sheer offensive boost from being a Paladin.
  
  Dark Knight is the choice for mages. You can net a huge amount of mana and intelligence as a Dark Knight. A 180% int roll will boost magic damage by up to 18%.
  
  Defensively the Dark Knight has far greater mana and health compared to the Paladin. The Paladin transformation gives the player up to 15 defense and 6% protection. That makes Paladin the better transformation when used with Wings of Eclipse. Otherwise, you really can't argue with up to 1300 health and up to 600 mana combined with Mana Shield.
  
  Dark Knights also enter disarm state which slightly increases the duration of their transformation unless they bring the resources to maintain their health reserve. You'll rarely take advantage of the disarm state but it's an option.
  
  Generally,
  
  Melee: Paladin
  Range: Paladin/Dark Knight
  Magic: Dark Knight
  Alchemy: Paladin/Dark Knight
• Mentosftw wrote on 2011-02-12 04:19
  I'd pick pally over dk for alchemy since you get so much more stamina in pally.
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-02-12 04:25
  Just think, if you need MP/int go DK. If you dont, stay pally
  Already talked with a bunch of people that regretted turning into DK, mostly hybrids
  
  As for me i will only turn DK when i start magic, aka, never at this rate :I
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-02-12 04:30
  If you are willing to go infinite or long term pot poisoning from mass pots, DK can be the one for you as well.
• demonlord96 wrote on 2011-02-12 04:32
  By the looks of it I'll probably end up using Paladin. I mostly use melee anyways, so its probably the better choice. I also like the fact that it has consistent stat bonuses every time you use it. I wouldn't want to roll high for a stat I really don't even need...
  Thank you to Yanm who provided that oh so useful link to a comparison thread, and thank you to Kaeporo for the nice comparison and explanations.
  And thanks to everyone else for their input as well.
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-02-12 04:35

  Quote from demonlord96;331713:

  By the looks of it I'll probably end up using Paladin. I mostly use melee anyways, so its probably the better choice. I also like the fact that it has consistent stat bonuses every time you use it. I wouldn't want to roll high for a stat I really don't even need...
  Thank you to Yanm who provided that oh so useful link to a comparison thread, and thank you to Kaeporo for the nice comparison and explanations.
  And thanks to everyone else for their input as well.

  
  
  just wanted to point out something
  You should NEVER pick your trans by the looks. But through your playstyle, you'll screw up your character build by going with the wrong trans
• Meikeru wrote on 2011-02-12 04:37

  Melee+Alchemy -> Pally
  Melee+Magic -> DK

  
  
  If you main as an archer I'd suggest you go elf. Human archery is heavily dependent on cs/mag.
• demonlord96 wrote on 2011-02-12 04:41

  Quote from Chromatic;331720:

  just wanted to point out something
  You should NEVER pick your trans by the looks. But through your playstyle, you'll screw up your character build by going with the wrong trans

  
  I think you might have missed the meaning of what I was actually saying there. I meant by the looks of the stats and bonuses and whatnot, not the actual looks of the transformation design.
  Actually, up until Infra Black I think that Dark Knight looks better. I don't really like the way Infra Black looks though compared to the last tier pally transformation. What can I say, I love wings.
  Like I said though, Its the stats and stuff that were the big things that convinced me. I play mostly melee anyways, so it fits. I never really got into magic that much either, so the int bonus would be mostly lost on me anyways...
  
  @Meikeru I actually do have an Elf that I'm trying to get into a pure Archer or Archer/Magic build. Elf Archery is totally boss.