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Tedio wrote on 2010-05-26 18:10
The in game recorder for lost saga is complete trash from the test video I just did. @_@
So I was thinking about using Fraps, would any of you recommend it?
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Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-05-26 18:13
I would, amazing quality and it still gives you playable FPS while recording. The problem is that they record in HD .avi's so one video can record even up to 10 GBs if you leave it on.
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Paul wrote on 2010-05-26 18:21
It'll kill your fps in game unless you got good computer specs. Or so it did for me and mabinogi.
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Tedio wrote on 2010-05-26 18:23
Quote from Paul;44817:
It'll kill your fps in game unless you got good computer specs. Or so it did for me and mabinogi.
Im not gonna record mabi with it, I just want a decent quality recorder.
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Kaxiyu wrote on 2010-05-26 18:46
I have a paid version of Fraps and it isn't bad. It does take a lot out of your computer though if you do not have decent computer specs. You will definately need a hard drive with a fairly fast RPM that writes quickly. It took an upgrade to 4GB memory and a Dual-core to get the program to record 3D video games past 800x600 resolution. If you want to work in higher resolutions but can't due to the fact your computer can't handle writing the huge videos, then avoid it.
High traffic games, such as shooters and high action games (non 2D) tend to eat up more resources and lower your FPS faster. High resolutions torch your FPS also. Mabinogi for me was borderline. Lost Saga might produce different results depending on the graphics. I never played that game so I can't tell you...
The Fraps codec records all your videos into .avi format using the "Fraps" format, which is a compromise between Lossless footage and Lossy footage. The video quality you get is high but is a fairly large video. Some of my videos end up around 5 GB for only 10 minutes. It's definately not a good idea to use Fraps if you have very little space on your computer.
If you use it, be my guest. I've had a good track record with the program. The only thing I would recommend is finding a way to compress the footage into a smaller format as it eats up space quickly. Possibly convert them to .mp4 format.
Just don't take our word for it though, you probably have to test the program yourself to see if you like it. The trial version is a bit misleading as it uses a different compressor for the videos and downs the quality a bit more, but it should give you a decent assessment. Be careful as sometimes the retail versions don't work after installing the trial due to some hook the trial version installs on your computer.
Other options would include the Xfire in-game recorder, Gamecam, Camtasia (Retail) and Hypercam. Each gives different results and function differently, so try stuff out. I use different recorders for different things, but I've paid for my programs and they won't necessarily work for most people who are looking for free options.
Keep in mind as well, your computer probably needs decent codecs to use programs that are relient on using codecs while recording videos, lest you want to use Uncompressed which yields the same results as Fraps. High quality, but eats up space. You still need a decent computer to get a smooth video regardless of what program you use.
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Tedio wrote on 2010-05-26 19:00
Would space really matter If I'm just gonna be uploading+Deleting right after?
I guess Ill try:
-X-fire
-Hypercam
-Camtasia
-Gamecam
Thanks.
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Kaxiyu wrote on 2010-05-26 19:07
Technically, no.
I'm one to store my videos for later use, so screw me and my blathering. You probably will have to compress the videos into a smaller format though, even if you're just Uploading and Deleting afterwards, which still brings you back to the space issue as well as computer specs.
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RicochetOrange wrote on 2010-05-26 19:12
Quote from Gargamaru;44847:
Would space really matter If I'm just gonna be uploading+Deleting right after?
I guess Ill try:
-X-fire
-Hypercam
-Camtasia
-Gamecam
Thanks.
Hypercam has terrible quality, and Camtasia is horrible for games.
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Kaxiyu wrote on 2010-05-26 19:19
I've managed to get decent quality with Hypercam and Camtasia after messing with some settings. It really is all about settings and what works. Then again, I have like 30 codecs jammed onto my computer at home. [stares at her H.264 codecs...]
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Forsaken wrote on 2010-05-26 21:22
I'd use Sony Vegas, or Camtasia.
As Kaxiyu said, Camtasia requires a lot of editing to make it run well with games, but it offers the best quality and options for its price (Which from what you said, I would assume is free ;p).
Vegas is rather difficult to get use to, but when recording, it is much better than Camtasia, it just requires a lot of learning to use.
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Kaxiyu wrote on 2010-05-26 21:44
Camtasia isn't free. I put in parenthesis (Retail), which normally means you have to buy it.
I have Vegas as well as Adobe CS4 Master Collection which includes Premiere Pro. It does take a lot of learning to use a non-linear video editing program. The learning curve is a bit steep if you try to edit videos right out of the box without using a simpler program such as Windows Movie Maker or have made a slideshow of some sort... At least, that's how I started out.
Vegas is the easiest to use non-linear editing program.
Premiere Pro and After Effects would probably one up it, but I haven't tried out Premiere Pro yet... It has so man doo-hickeys, that I get confused trying to just preview my videos.
Final Cut Pro is industry standard with Adobe After Effects.
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Mario wrote on 2010-05-26 22:32
By the way.... What do you do in Lost Saga? (Never played it before but sounds fun)
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Forsaken wrote on 2010-05-26 22:45
Quote from Kaxiyu;44946:
Camtasia isn't free. I put in parenthesis (Retail), which normally means you have to buy it.
I have Vegas as well as Adobe CS4 Master Collection which includes Premiere Pro. It does take a lot of learning to use a non-linear video editing program. The learning curve is a bit steep if you try to edit videos right out of the box without using a simpler program such as Windows Movie Maker or have made a slideshow of some sort... At least, that's how I started out.
Vegas is the easiest to use non-linear editing program.
Premiere Pro and After Effects would probably one up it, but I haven't tried out Premiere Pro yet... It has so man doo-hickeys, that I get confused trying to just preview my videos.
Final Cut Pro is industry standard with Adobe After Effects.
I have Premiere Pro and After Effects as well, but I never got around to playing with them.
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Tedio wrote on 2010-05-27 00:32
Quote from Mario;45028:
By the way.... What do you do in Lost Saga? (Never played it before but sounds fun)
I have a link in my sig....
I would describe it as a wild PVP beat-em-up, with heroes/villains from different periods of time. Its definitely better than its lame counterpart rumble fighter.
From what these guys are saying...I might as well just record with something like Xfire than edit it with Vegas.
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Cucurbita wrote on 2010-05-27 00:47
FRAPs is top notch, only if your computer can handle it and you have the hard drive space for it.
A minute video can easily eat up multiple gigs. And keeping 60 fps is pretty difficult.