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Cathaoir wrote on 2011-07-10 05:13
Quote from foreignreign;506510:
3 slices instead of just 2?
Physically impossible. The "move" is done with momentum. You wouldn't be able to bring that arm down for another swing up. The only other option would be to include a swing down, which wouldn't be very ideal in actual combat.
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ThatNerd wrote on 2011-07-10 05:44
General:
-SP skills can be removed in and out of the slot during or out of combat.
-Charge skills to be increased in range, and influenced by atk speed
Fiona:
-I want fiona's roll removed, >:(
-butterfly to be downed to only 2-3 consecutive hits
-Ivy sweep changed into only a roundhouse kick (.160 percentile maybe?) and an uppercut kick after it (.145?)
-Higher amaranth damage (maybe add another 1-2 consecutive hits)
-make blossom's 2nd and 3rd hit more damage and faster
-Shield charge increases in damage by 1.5x (swords only)
Other than that, I don't think she needs any charging/dodging skills.
Evie:
-I want her corona to be "grab-able". If I'm near it, I want to press E to obtain the heal'
-"When Mana Amber breaks, put a debuff on Evie that makes it so she can't Mana Amber again for some duration." This. I want this. Evies don't even need to try to dodge. She needs to use sparrow more
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Oizen wrote on 2011-07-10 05:49
Quote from foreignreign;506510:
3 slices instead of just 2?
Lann has 3 arms now?
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Overblood wrote on 2011-07-10 06:37
Fully charged stigma? Psh, fat chance of you pulling that off on most bosses.
A nerf to the bread and butter + a buff to something very situational =/= rebalancing
Quote from OizenX;506555:
Lann has 3 arms now?
No, with the "Eight Swords?" title, he'll have 8. ;D
jk
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foreignreign wrote on 2011-07-10 07:28
Quote from Overblood;506603:
Fully charged stigma? Psh, fat chance of you pulling that off on most bosses.
A nerf to the bread and butter + a buff to something very situational =/= rebalancing
But... if you nerf something that's over powered that is rebalancing.
And it's not so much a nerf considering that the first 3 hits of BSwing would still be just as strong (or even stronger). By the fourth hit you'd be on equivalent strength. The only thing weaker would be no more spin2win Slashing High, but Slashing High + spin2win outdamaging Shield Charge is pretty lame in the first place.
And more KD on Stigma would make it actually worth using maybe.
No, with the "Eight Swords?" title, he'll have 8. ;D
jk
Octolann?
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Phanterz wrote on 2011-07-10 11:36
Quote from Cathaoir;506526:
Physically impossible. The "move" is done with momentum. You wouldn't be able to bring that arm down for another swing up. The only other option would be to include a swing down, which wouldn't be very ideal in actual combat.
There are a lot of things that are physically impossible.
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foreignreign wrote on 2011-07-10 19:22
Didn't even notice all those posts I missed.
Quote from Cathaoir;506526:
Physically impossible. The "move" is done with momentum. You wouldn't be able to bring that arm down for another swing up. The only other option would be to include a swing down, which wouldn't be very ideal in actual combat.
So is Gliding Fury physically possible? And then doing Lightning Fury in the opposite direction? Or doing seven Gliding Furies all in different directions?
Quote from ThatNerd;506551:
General:
-SP skills can be removed in and out of the slot during or out of combat.
-Charge skills to be increased in range, and influenced by atk speed
Fiona:
-I want fiona's roll removed, >:(
-butterfly to be downed to only 2-3 consecutive hits
-Ivy sweep changed into only a roundhouse kick (.160 percentile maybe?) and an uppercut kick after it (.145?)
-Higher amaranth damage (maybe add another 1-2 consecutive hits)
-make blossom's 2nd and 3rd hit more damage and faster
-Shield charge increases in damage by 1.5x (swords only)
Other than that, I don't think she needs any charging/dodging skills.
Evie:
-I want her corona to be "grab-able". If I'm near it, I want to press E to obtain the heal'
-"When Mana Amber breaks, put a debuff on Evie that makes it so she can't Mana Amber again for some duration." This. I want this. Evies don't even need to try to dodge. She needs to use sparrow more
Oh man I really wish they did do something about selecting SP skills. I really hate having 5 SP skills on my Fiona when I'm transed since it makes using Conviction such a pain in the heat of battle. I don't even have Clipped Wings on my Evie since I don't want to have to rotate through more SP skills.
And I actually like Fiona's roll. I use it as a dodge instead of sprint smash now since they buffed it.
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Cathaoir wrote on 2011-07-10 20:20
Quote from foreignreign;507008:
So is Gliding Fury physically possible? And then doing Lightning Fury in the opposite direction? Or doing seven Gliding Furies all in different directions?
What I meant by "physically impossible" is just look at Double Crescent, there is no way I can see possible to get a third up-slash for it. The reason why it's called a "double crescent" is because both swords go up in a crescent motion. There's no 3 swords, so how can there be a Triple Crescent?
Gliding Fury and Lightning Fury makes more sense physically than a third slash to make a Triple Crescent.
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foreignreign wrote on 2011-07-10 21:05
Quote from Cathaoir;507079:
What I meant by "physically impossible" is just look at Double Crescent, there is no way I can see possible to get a third up-slash for it. The reason why it's called a "double crescent" is because both swords go up in a crescent motion. There's no 3 swords, so how can there be a Triple Crescent?
Gliding Fury and Lightning Fury makes more sense physically than a third slash to make a Triple Crescent.
Then let's not talk about Triple Crescent.
Are Gliding, Lightning Fury and Furious Seven physically possible?
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Cathaoir wrote on 2011-07-10 21:31
Quote from foreignreign;507122:
Then let's not talk about Triple Crescent.
Why not? It's your idea in the first place.
Are Gliding, Lightning Fury and Furious Seven physically possible?
The attack motion, yes. The gliding around like he's on skates, no. A lot of skills in this game don't seem logically possible. Most of the attack motions do though, besides the showy extras added onto them, like the gliding of gliding and lightning fury.
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foreignreign wrote on 2011-07-10 21:53
Quote from Cathaoir;507151:
Why not? It's your idea in the first place.
Because you're implying that all the other moves are physically possible in this game, and I'm pointing out to you that there are others that aren't.
The attack motion, yes. The gliding around like he's on skates, no. A lot of skills in this game don't seem logically possible. Most of the attack motions do though, besides the showy extras added onto them, like the gliding of gliding and lightning fury.
The "gliding around like he's on skates" is pretty much the entire point of Gliding Fury. So you just admitted to Gliding Fury being physically impossible.
So then it'd be fine if there's a Triple Crescent.
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Cathaoir wrote on 2011-07-10 21:57
Quote from foreignreign;507168:
Because you're implying that all the other moves are physically possible in this game, and I'm pointing out to you that there are others that aren't.
You obviously don't know what I'm trying to say.
The "gliding around like he's on skates" is pretty much the entire point of Gliding Fury. So you just admitted to Gliding Fury being physically impossible.
So then it'd be fine if there's a Triple Crescent.
"The attack motion, yes." Is what I was "implying" to be physically impossible. Gliding fury's attack motion(the slash of the swords) is possible. The attack motion of a triple crescent would not be possible, unless you somehow involved a third sword.
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foreignreign wrote on 2011-07-10 21:59
Quote from Cathaoir;507173:
You obviously don't know what I'm trying to say.
"The attack motion, yes." Is what I was "implying" to be physically impossible. Gliding fury's attack motion(the slash of the swords) is possible. The attack motion of a triple crescent would not be possible, unless you somehow involved a third sword.
Lann can do a hit while he's on the ground still.
Problem solved. Happy?
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Oizen wrote on 2011-07-11 02:47
Quote from foreignreign;507174:
Lann can do a hit while he's on the ground still.
Problem solved. Happy?
But that really wouldn't be part of the attack, that would be DC + smash
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Dagurasu wrote on 2011-07-11 16:31
Lann is fully capable of doing a third crescent slash. No one said it's a vertical crescent. He could do a third slash with his left hand as it came back down after he twirls. Or hey, you know, they could always just change the animation to something else.