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Arandroth wrote on 2011-07-17 22:22
hey hey hey hey are you -evies, karoks and fionas- joking or what?
i'm tired of being kicked from the various raids battles, such as aglan or ingkells, just because i'm a lann. And, i'm not complaining about the whole lann thing (revamp or whatever you want). I'm complaining about YOU mindless players that kick EVERYTIME me, a regular hibrid ann, just because i cannot dodge well or doing as much damage as you overpowered staff evie. Because, you have to admit, you are.
Hey, guess what, even swords laggin fiona or scyte evies are well accepted, but not a single lann! HEY what the hell, WHY? gimme a good reason, and don't answer with stupid thoughts.
sorry if i vented. :stress:
see ya in game, evies and good friends :whip:
ps yes, i'm another unnerved lann waiting for some rebalancing or something like that <.<
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Joker wrote on 2011-07-17 23:35
Quote from Arandroth;516042:
hey hey hey hey are you -evies, karoks and fionas- joking or what?
i'm tired of being kicked from the various raids battles, such as aglan or ingkells, just because i'm a lann. And, i'm not complaining about the whole lann thing (revamp or whatever you want). I'm complaining about YOU mindless players that kick EVERYTIME me, a regular hibrid ann, just because i cannot dodge well or doing as much damage as you overpowered staff evie. Because, you have to admit, you are.
Hey, guess what, even swords laggin fiona or scyte evies are well accepted, but not a single lann! HEY what the hell, WHY? gimme a good reason, and don't answer with stupid thoughts.
sorry if i vented. :stress:
see ya in game, evies and good friends :whip:
ps yes, i'm another unnerved lann waiting for some rebalancing or something like that <.<
as for damage lanns get more then karok... (karok and sword lann being lowest dmg).
fact is... almost every pub chooses Lann and people time and time again prove that most* lanns are either annoying... stupid or can't do anything for 20 seconds without needing a revive... sorry its just vindictus logic...
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Gotejjeken wrote on 2011-07-17 23:39
Lanns do not out damage Karok. Karok has more range, can stay closer to the boss longer, and more mobility...in a sense they are a replacement for Lann. Lanns still provide some use as a utility, however from Irukul on, they can truly only be seen as limited use.
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Cathaoir wrote on 2011-07-17 23:47
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afact is... almost every pub chooses Lann and people time and time again prove that most* lanns are either annoying... stupid or can't do anything for 20 seconds without needing a revive... sorry its just vindictus logic...
This.
The last Aghlan I ran, there was a lvl 70 Lann. He basically died more times than the other 7 members combined. It was Me(a Karok), 4 Evies, 1 Fiona, and 2 Lanns, yet this one Lann was just so horrible. He kept on trying to spin2win against Aghlan, even though he continually failed, time and time again.
Now I know not all Lanns are like this, but it's Lanns like that, that give other Lanns a bad name. I always let anyone on my boats, guess you just get unlucky. If it's that bad, join a guild that does raids.
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Intex wrote on 2011-07-18 00:02
At both high (level 61+) and low levels (30s) the people who are dying are usually Lanns. Even then you rarely see a Lann taking the highest damage score. I never host but I do get worried when half my party are Lanns. I've even seen a Lann host kicking other Lanns and waiting for more Evie/Fionas.
In important parties (eg. high demand raids) it's easy to find another member. I really don't see a lot of selective kicking though so it's not a crippling problem.
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Arandroth wrote on 2011-07-18 00:02
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This.
The last Aghlan I ran, there was a lvl 70 Lann. He basically died more times than the other 7 members combined. It was Me(a Karok), 4 Evies, 1 Fiona, and 2 Lanns, yet this one Lann was just so horrible. He kept on trying to spin2win against Aghlan, even though he continually failed, time and time again.
Now I know not all Lanns are like this, but it's Lanns like that, that give other Lanns a bad name. I always let anyone on my boats, guess you just get unlucky. If it's that bad, join a guild that does raids.
the truth is that nobody cares about lanns dmg or dodge or everything else. they just see some lanns dying too much= every lanns sucks.
for the guild.. well i'm looking for, but nobody wants lann too. ._.
last conversation with a karok 2nd account and a staff evie was like: "hey, i was looking for a decent guild for raids, dailies and other stuffs, are you recluiting?" "nope, we dont want any lanns"
tired.
oh, last thing, have you noticed that even aglan spin2win is better than lanns spin2die? lol
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Cathaoir wrote on 2011-07-18 00:54
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the truth is that nobody cares about lanns dmg or dodge or everything else. they just see some lanns dying too much= every lanns sucks.
Like many people have said before on here, on paper Lann is amazing. The only reason why people reject Lanns is because the bad Lanns outwiegh the good ones. I've seen many good Lanns, and I've seen many, many bad Lanns, but most just notice the bad ones not doing their job. Yes, spin2win has high dps, but its not worth it when it causes one to die every 5 seconds.
for the guild.. well i'm looking for, but nobody wants lann too. ._.
last conversation with a karok 2nd account and a staff evie was like: "hey, i was looking for a decent guild for raids, dailies and other stuffs, are you recluiting?" "nope, we dont want any lanns"
tired.
I'm sure there are some out there.
oh, last thing, have you noticed that even aglan spin2win is better than lanns spin2die? lol
God, I hate that wm. Luckly for me I'm able to time the wm with my roll to absorb shock. Also hate how it gives him invincibility frames as well.
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Habskii wrote on 2011-07-18 06:50
I'm a spear lann...and since ep.7 came out...i have never been kicked from any party or raid (unless they forgot to make it private and r waiting for people)
....I think your doing it wrong O.e
:what::tea:
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Oizen wrote on 2011-07-18 07:20
I'm proud of myself, I died less while fighting then the evies in my party while fighting the giant golem thing, and they had a 2 lann limit :C (I happen to be pretty good with slip dash <3)
I'm tired of the hate! When will the Segregation end?!?
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Random wrote on 2011-07-18 07:50
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At both high (level 61+) and low levels (30s) the people who are dying are usually Lanns. Even then you rarely see a Lann taking the highest damage score. I never host but I do get worried when half my party are Lanns. I've even seen a Lann host kicking other Lanns and waiting for more Evie/Fionas.
In important parties (eg. high demand raids) it's easy to find another member. I really don't see a lot of selective kicking though so it's not a crippling problem.
I play a Lann and even I get worried when there are 4 Lanns in the parties I'm in. They really make me look bad and waste my time when I go resurrect them instead of doing damage.
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Four wrote on 2011-07-18 12:21
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I play a Lann and even I get worried when there are 4 Lanns in the parties I'm in. They really make me look bad and waste my time when I go resurrect them instead of doing damage.
Or, they make you look good cause you're the Lann that's alive c:
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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2011-07-18 23:07
The biggest problem is that the overwhelming majority of them either die (like others said) or run around and don't do much of anything in the first place, which is honestly worse. I'd rather have someone charge and do a lot of damage then get hit hard and have to be revived over and over than to survive and waste time.
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henzohattori wrote on 2011-07-19 03:31
idk being a lann means your gonna die and get kicked. its just natural. ima 65 spear lann and i do..pretty well on ingkells. i dont die unless dogs and i get at least 2 furious 7s off (from attacking boss/ without trans) and i have a good life span, maybe a couple mins or so. but getting kicked is a natural thing and ya gotta live with it lol. cuz. it happens. golem tho....well..thats another story...so many deaths lol
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Fracture wrote on 2011-07-19 07:02
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At both high (level 61+) and low levels (30s) the people who are dying are usually Lanns. Even then you rarely see a Lann taking the highest damage score.
I disagree. I'm in mid-50's as a hybrid Lann with decent gear, and yet in pretty much every 4-person run I do with various other teammates, except when there's someone that's like 10+ levels higher, I tend to get at least 40% if not higher on the boss, and I run out of feathers reviving incompetent Evies, Fionas, and Karoks. I don't know why everyone complains about Lanns-- every character has some players that are useless and get owned all the time.
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Cathaoir wrote on 2011-07-19 07:08
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I disagree. I'm in mid-50's as a hybrid Lann with decent gear, and yet in pretty much every 4-person run I do with various other teammates, except when there's someone that's like 10+ levels higher, I tend to get at least 40% if not higher on the boss, and I run out of feathers reviving incompetent Evies, Fionas, and Karoks. I don't know why everyone complains about Lanns-- every character has some players that are useless and get owned all the time.
It's really all players, not just Lanns. It's the player that has trouble playing his character. It's just that it's mostly Lanns due to the fact that they are harder to play, thus harder to master. Most people just Hidden spam to lvl 61+ so therefore they never learn how to play, thus being crappy players.