United States: Atlanta Schools Created Culture Of Cheating, Fear, Intimidation

• Mama wrote on 2011-07-18 03:44
  ^they're also killing themselves with gusto.
  
  

  Quote from Lan;516390:

  Yes but just teaching them wont help them succeed :< The real successful ones have a dream, a purpose that motivates them. And motivation is being considered a factor that affects intelligence.

  
  
  oh lan, very idealistic ;3;
  there's no motivations/dreams/career class, just some counselors and a careers course that's worth like half a credit.
  most people have a teacher they look up to as a role model, usually cuz they went above and beyond just teaching them, and just inspired them with their passion. That's how it was for me, anyways.
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-07-18 03:44

  Quote from Mama;516367:

  lookofdisapproval.jpg
  
  we had our fair share of those kinds of kids, but more often than not, they were just not trying and leaving pages and sections empty.
  
  and trust me, an ESL-D level kid passing that test.. is an accomplishment.

  
  
  Can't do much for someone who's not trying!
  Ah well, just speaking from experience. :p I remember being all worried, "STANDARDIZED GOVERNMENT TEST" sounded really badass and scary. But after I wrote it, I was like.. I can't believe I freaked out over that. =_=;; And when I heard that native speakers failed it while all the ESL kids I knew passed it, I was pretty amused. xd
  
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  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;516400:

  Korea has standardized testing
  and they're beating the crap out of other countrie

  
  
  Asian education quality is debateable. Their idea of studying is to memorize textbooks, literally... no pun intended. I made friends with this FOB from South Korea. He actually had photocopies of a textbook chapter with him and he was reading it while we were in gym class, playing soccer on the field. >_> I asked him WTF he was doing and he was surprised that we didn't study like this here. They have been trying to reform education over there to encourage thinking vs memorizing for a while now.
• Adelynn wrote on 2011-07-18 03:46
  It's sad to read about this. I think the reason it happens is that some teachers just aren't quite up for the task they're given. I feel like some teachers can be too lenient because they're either lazy, or they want to be seen as friends and not as someone who's mean and out to get the students. The thing is, you can be a nice person while still being strict and no-nonsense. I've had plenty of teachers like that, and they taught me a lot. Of course it's not entirely the teacher's fault, but they should do what they can instead of taking the easy way out. If you need to tell a parent their child isn't ready, then do so. If a child needs extra help, give it.
• paladin wrote on 2011-07-18 03:58
  Its mix of both
  Teachers and students
  I can see the diffrence between alot of people
  My mixed friends-mixing academic-honors-ap-Both of them just suck math and get help from the academic teachers,doing ap for everything eles
  Lazy folks-I could easily see most of my honors friends taking ap courses-they dont want too
  Teachers-Some teachers you would just pitty them if you saw how they had to teach
  Some teachers plain out hate you
  Some of the best teachers ive seen will either make it fun to teach you or kick you ass around in the class by raising the bar to max
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-07-18 03:59

  Quote from Adelynn;516406:

  It's sad to read about this. I think the reason it happens is that some teachers just aren't quite up for the task they're given.

  
  
  I blame the women!
  
  I remember listening to a very insightful interview with some major CEO (I think it was IBM's, I don't remember). He mentioned that not too long ago, women didn't think they had many career paths, with teaching teaching being a popular choice. Lots of capable people ended up becoming teachers. These days, however, women are going into other fields. Since teaching in the US is not considered a prestigious career path, a lot of "losers" who couldn't get into other programs end up pursuing that instead. The results are obvious. :(
• Majikaru wrote on 2011-07-18 04:25
  I also think that the media has some role in how poorly Americans do in school.
  There are a lot of cartoons and other shows that portray schools in a negative light. (You know what I'm talking about.)
  These are also directed towards children. So, being easily influenced, these children may also take on the view that learning is a terrible experience.
  
  (Similarly, this may also play a role in why leafy green vegetables are "icky" to many children.)
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2011-07-18 04:28
  You mean like Degrassi?
• Cucurbita wrote on 2011-07-18 04:33
  Time to home school now?
• Lan wrote on 2011-07-18 04:42

  Quote from Cucurbita;516481:

  Time to home school now?

  
  
  ...just had a bad flash back to those parents who let their children decide when they want to learn *shudders*
• Marie wrote on 2011-07-18 04:59
  I went to kindergarten in Atlanta, lol...=\ The entire story just makes me incredibly sad, hopefully media exposure will help to some extent, though?
  
  As for Canada, yeah the standard of education seems to be better, but I've actually been deeply unsatisfied with it throughout high school. Not sure if the GTA area gets more attention towards education or not, I would imagine so though because there are so many asian students there, but where I live (North Simcoe, city has a population of 30 000), nobody seemed to care about school until second semester of grade 12...and even then......
  
  All throughout high school I had to watch teachers give into the students (moving test dates, deadlines, extensions for papers, cancelling assignments if people complain too much, giving a no-mark instead of a 0 for unhanded assignments).
  
  As for the literacy test, I remember quite a lot of people failing it...(remembers the long announcement, 20-30 people in my grade at least). x.x
• Majikaru wrote on 2011-07-18 05:11

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;516471:

  You mean like Degrassi?

  
  
  Nah, Degrassi was good. They even showed it in my health classes as a supplement, to give us examples of how people dealt with things were learning in class.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2011-07-18 05:13
  okay trying to figure out what media Maji was hinting at...
  Glee?
  High school musical?
• Adelynn wrote on 2011-07-18 05:23

  Quote from Majikaru;516466:

  I also think that the media has some role in how poorly Americans do in school.
  There are a lot of cartoons and other shows that portray schools in a negative light. (You know what I'm talking about.)
  These are also directed towards children. So, being easily influenced, these children may also take on the view that learning is a terrible experience.
  
  (Similarly, this may also play a role in why leafy green vegetables are "icky" to many children.)

  
  
  Kids Next Door? 8D
  
  Adults are evil villains!
  Greens are evil!
  Anarchy!
  Rebelling makes you a hero! 8D
• Cynic wrote on 2011-07-18 05:30

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;516534:

  okay trying to figure out what media Maji was hinting at...
  Glee?
  High school musical?

  
  
  Only problem is, Glee isn't that inaccurate. It's not even that bad. Unless you count Dalton. (WHERE ARE THE TEACHERS?)
• chaolin wrote on 2011-07-18 07:32

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;516259:

  yes
  the cat lives with master in a high income community with the majority of the ethnicity being Caucasians, Koreans, and Japanese.
  Even the worst public high school in the area has better education and programs (sports and fine arts) and than other nearby districts.
  Master attends a public high school where students score more 5s on AP exams than 3s.

  
  
  Sounds like Troy, CA.