KR Test Ego Thread

• GlyphZero wrote on 2011-09-09 12:53

  Quote from Froglord;583041:

  It's a 1 hander that pushes back in 1 hit with no multi-hit non-skill combos, technicaly it's like having a 2 hit ego weapon with 120 max.

  
  
  and then you smash/assault slash with it and assault slash keeps very slow stun for smash again. it's not a raw combo weapon, it's a skill combo weapon. slap->bolt->charge->smash->as->smash->bolt->slap(OHEY I PING BUT AM KNOCKED BACK ANYWAY)->bolt->blah blah blah...
  
  also; elves can use it.
• radionoise wrote on 2011-09-09 13:52

  Quote from Froglord;583041:

  It's a 1 hander that pushes back in 1 hit with no multi-hit non-skill combos, technicaly it's like having a 2 hit ego weapon with 120 max.

  
  
  The fact that it's 1 hit gives it greater stun than a 2 hit weapon.
  
  Smash, Windmill, Assault Slash, etc are the actual skills you use in melee so a weapon could be 50 hit or 1 hit and it wouldn't make a difference (besides stun) when you're using them.
  
  It's the perfect elf melee weapon, paired with an Oblivion Swarming shield it is only 40 max damage behind dual-wielding S6 X-Grade Goddess Horn Battle Swords with max artisan.
• Jahrakal wrote on 2011-09-09 15:45
  Except that dual-wielding has vast advantage over a single-wield other than what it looks as mere numbers on your character window.
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-09-09 15:50

  Quote from Jahrakal;583063:

  Except that dual-wielding has vast advantage over a single-wield other than what it looks as mere numbers on your character window.

  
  
  Well with Single-Wield swords you can Charge Then smash Combo easily.
  but do agree on the Dual wielding > Single.
• Jahrakal wrote on 2011-09-09 15:51

  Quote from Tropacat;583065:

  Well with Single-Wield swords you can Charge Then smash Combo easily.
  but do agree on the Dual wielding > Single.

  
  
  That won't matter much with the upcoming update as Charge Without Shield for Human/Elves option goes on either accessories or headgears.
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-09-09 15:54

  Quote from Jahrakal;583066:

  That won't matter much with the upcoming update as Charge Without Shield for Human/Elves option goes on either accessories or headgears.

  
  
  Wait what? Thats Pro o.o
  
  Does it work with people holding Bows/Xbows?
• Jahrakal wrote on 2011-09-09 15:58
  No, only the melee weapons - both 2-hander and dual-wield.
  
  Edit: Hence why dual-wield is superior to single-wield no matter the number.
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-09-09 16:01

  Quote from Jahrakal;583069:

  No, only the melee weapons - both 2-hander and dual-wield.

  
  
  i see o.o
  ......
  Combos i see
  Charge > Two/Four hits > WM > AS.
  well this doesn't effect me as much since alch/magic can be used with shields.
• Jahrakal wrote on 2011-09-09 16:04

  Quote from Tropacat;583071:

  
  Charge > Two/Four hits > WM > AS.
  

  
  That's already possible.
  
  What is made possible:
  Charge > 2-hander Smash/Dual-wield Smash without swapping > etc
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-09-09 16:13

  Quote from Jahrakal;583073:

  That's already possible.
  
  What is made possible:
  Charge > 2-hander Smash/Dual-wield Smash without swapping > etc

  
  
  I wish they'd make it where you can Use a Cylinder(On the arm) with any weapon(On the hand).
  It might screw up the game so bad Or It'll make everything better.
  Aka: Always have Windblast handie when your being knocked down.
  Or making Charge > frozenblast > Smash/wm combos faster.
• Syrion wrote on 2011-09-09 17:10

  Quote from Tropacat;583077:

  I wish they'd make it where you can Use a Cylinder(On the arm) with any weapon(On the hand).
  It might screw up the game so bad Or It'll make everything better.
  Aka: Always have Windblast handie when your being knocked down.
  Or making Charge > frozenblast > Smash/wm combos faster.

  
  
  you can swap weapon while being knocked down
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-09-09 17:13

  Quote from Syrion;583097:

  you can swap weapon while being knocked down

  
  
  ... Never knew that. LOL
• Kaon wrote on 2011-09-09 22:57

  Quote from Jahrakal;583063:

  Except that dual-wielding has vast advantage over a single-wield other than what it looks as mere numbers on your character window.

  
  
  He was comparing actual numbers, not the dual wield average on the char window. Maxed machete ego + oblivion swarming shield = dual wielding matching 127 max damage swords in terms of 1 for 1 damage. The sword setup he described is what, roughly 150 max per sword (without looking anything up). It's comparable in terms of one hit vs one hit damage. There are other limitations of course tho, (no extended damage on normal combo, elves only having 200% wm, Rtype...which would have lower max than what was stated anyway, etc)... but I could still 3k critmill with it with the gear I have now and that weapon. And that may not be on par with "perfect endgame" human/giant dual wield but... I can totally fight with it lol.
  
  Of course we could still add in the metalwares that'll be available by then (setting aside cost...) and combo cards (which I've yet to touch personally).
  
  Something as nice as 6k critmills with elfmill is possible.
• Karuta wrote on 2011-09-10 01:23
  I have taken the information spread out in this thread and compiled it into a guide
  
  So hopefully those of you that are having a hard time finding the stats you're interested in/info about transferring can have easy access to it there. =D I'm still taking requests for ego stats as well on that thread.
• Strych9 wrote on 2011-09-10 01:41

  Quote from Jahrakal;583063:

  Except that dual-wielding has vast advantage over a single-wield other than what it looks as mere numbers on your character window.

  
  
  Care to elaborate on those advantages? Nothing significant comes to mind due to my limited knowledge on melee.