Things people don't know.

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whocares8128 wrote on 2011-10-21 17:46

[SPOILER="Spoiler"]Because Nyle does leave the Magic Laboratory...[SPOILER="Spoiler"]more than once.[/SPOILER][/SPOILER]

P.S. I love this topic, since you can immediately tell who's going off-topic by the absence of a spoiler tag.
Kollin wrote on 2011-10-21 19:44

Updated with new info.
Invertex wrote on 2011-10-21 19:59

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but.
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]The Lizardmen have no god. However, in the promotional story for Thor and the Sewers, they seem to word Thor as some of the Lizardmen's god (something like "Your god has many teeth"). Contradiction by NA Nexon story writers![/SPOILER]
Kollin wrote on 2011-10-21 20:28

Quote from Invertex;629918:
Also, correct me if I'm wrong but.
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]The Lizardmen have no god. However, in the promotional story for Thor and the Sewers, they seem to word Thor as some of the Lizardmen's god (something like "Your god has many teeth"). Contradiction by NA Nexon story writers![/SPOILER]

Hmm....I am not 100% certain on this. I will wait before adding this till I can get more info or if someone can vouch for it.
Hazeri wrote on 2011-10-21 20:56

Quote from Kollin;629964:
Hmm....I am not 100% certain on this. I will wait before adding this till I can get more info or if someone can vouch for it.

From my understanding
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]Lizards regard anything HUGE and with scales as their god(s)[/SPOILER]
xJac wrote on 2011-10-22 03:16

[spoiler] Yes, what Brynn did was totally alone, and what the court is doing is vague. I know vampires were running around after court's failure, and most people died after Brynn summoned a "creature", but not goddess.

Brynn is actually very weak by the way, because of the summoning. He will die if he leaves the magic laboratory, the magic barrier there is actually protecting him. That's also why he always ask you to do something, and never come out to do it himself, even if it's very simple thing.

Thor is lizard's god; unfortunately, the lizard hold no religious respect to Thor. God to them is more like a tool and disposable, seeing how they plan on stealing the Fomor god when Erinn arrives (with Fomarian Domination I believe); and how they never even bother helping Thor when you are slaughtering it.

The court actually built the sewer for the lizardmen, because they don't want human to win.[/spoiler]
Kollin wrote on 2011-10-22 17:15

Updated.
TLCBonaparte wrote on 2011-10-22 20:42

You know what I think happened? I think Brynn was working for the royal army. I dont think there are proofs that he wasn't
xJac wrote on 2011-10-22 22:35

[spoiler] The court just hates Brynn, and Brynn was expelled from magic guild when he was only an apprentice, simply because he tried to summon the goddess. There's no way Brynn worked for the royal army.

There's two ritual in total, as far as we know. One was done by Brynn alone, when he tried to summon the goddess; another one was done by the court, but the intention of this summoning is vague. (Certainly they don't want Erinn to arrive, then what was they summoning?)

Anyone remember when you need to fight weeping queen? I don't remember the detail, but Brynn and Reily wants you to reinforce the barrier for something. Is it a barrier for locking glas, or preventing a dimension hole? And if it is indeed a barrier for locking glas, was this glas the result of Brynn's failure or courts' failure?

Also, I remembered Brynn (or Nyle) mentioned that the summoning of glas (a side product) was preventing the court to closely study the magic they used, so they did summoned glas, then what did Brynn summon?

The whole thing is pretty tangled, and I would need the original text to sort it out.[/spoiler]
Oizen wrote on 2011-10-24 04:05

Add This:
[spoiler]
Nine Fingers, the boss of Prarie entrance, has 10 fingers.
[/spoiler]
:thumb:
TLCBonaparte wrote on 2011-10-24 06:49

Quote from OizenX;633180:
Add This:
[spoiler]
Nine Fingers, the boss of Prarie entrance, has 10 fingers.
[/spoiler]
:thumb:

And three balls.

Wait... was that Vindi or Borderland?
SozenCratosFocker wrote on 2011-10-24 07:51

[SPOILER="Spoiler"]Here's one that nobody has mentioned yet: Everything that happened in the prologue was may have been partially Kirstie's fault. Tive, or maybe Caera or the tailor girl, says something about hoping Kirstie doesn't get in trouble for bringing a lizardman to Colhen. IIRC, this was in one of the "chitchat" button monologues, not something u see because of a quest.
[/SPOILER]

[SPOILER="Spoiler"]We can't really be sure tthat the lizardmen think of thor as a god. If i'm not mistaken, Thor in this game is only refered to as a god once in the story, and that's not in the game itself, but in one of those new episode teaser things on the website, and it's not clear how reliable those are for story details. Even if we could be cetrain that this is completely part of the same story and not someone from devcat doing a fanfic about their own work, this is still unreliable cause this is something said by a gnoll to other gnolls. Most of what we hear about the lisardmen from other characters in the story is unreliable, since very little is known about the lizardmen. In EP9, you find out that the lizards are lying to everyone about everything, so any information that others have on them is probably useless. Even what you hear about them from Brynn, Nile, and Naveen might not be completely correct. [/SPOILER]

[SPOILER="Spoiler"]
Quote from xJac;631513:
The court just hates Brynn, and Brynn was expelled from magic guild when he was only an apprentice, simply because he tried to summon the goddess. There's no way Brynn worked for the royal army.

Where does it say that the court hates bryn? I don't doubt that they do, but i don't remember reading anything that specifically states it. And where does it say that bryn was kicked expelled from the magic guild when he was an apprentice? he was definitely in the magician guild from the time you enter the story till atleast shortly after you go to rocheste. we know this because they were just then threatening to kick him out for not paying dues or something. And IIRC, you're the one that delivered their letters to him.[/SPOILER]

[SPOILER="Spoiler"]This might be a little off topic, but does anyone else think there might be a connection between the partholonians in Mabi and the lizardmen in Vindi?

And has anyone else noticed the resemblance between Naveen and Aracne(the Alby ADV boss in Mabi who reminds you of demi litch)? It kinda makes sense since she either is in the silent brotherhood, or works closely with them like brynn, and they are/were very close firends with the giant spiders.[/SPOILER]
Royale wrote on 2011-10-24 09:41

[SPOILER="Spoiler"] could it be possible that we are the partholonians in vind? in mabi they were wiped out by the formors, but it didn't say when they were wiped out so it could be as recent as 300 years ago, which is when vind takes place [/SPOILER]
SozenCratosFocker wrote on 2011-10-24 11:11

[SPOILER="Spoiler"]
Quote from Royale;633554:
could it be possible that we are the partholonians in vind? in mabi they were wiped out by the formors, but it didn't say when they were wiped out so it could be as recent as 300 years ago, which is when vind takes place

Not likely. The Fomor leader, Shakar, is dead. Blackhammer, if he's even still alive is probably in no condition to lead them. The Fomors follow whoever's strongest, which means that whoever's next in line will be weaker than shakar and black hammer, so probably no match for the player or Kaeghan(players pwned BH twice, and Kaeghan was basically tied with Shakar during the first BH fight).
The fomors lost their best warriors and their leaders, and the lizards are rebelling. It looks like the humans have the advantage now.

The Lizardmen have a lot in common with the Partholonians from Mabi. They both have something to do with reptiles, and they both seem to be stronger fighters than the Fomors but loose to them anyway. In Mabi, the Python Knights are stronger than most of the Fomors you fight, yet the Partholonians were defeated by the Fomors. In Vindi, the Lizardmen were opressed by the Fomors even though they're stronger. Fomor trash mobs (outside of hero mode) have never been able to kill me when I'm fighting back, but the lizards occasionally pwn me. I'd think the Lizards were the partholonians if it weren't for that picture in the Mabi cutscene of what their prince used to look like.

Speaking of trash mobs that have been able to kill me, the Yeti are [probably] not fomors.
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Invertex wrote on 2011-10-24 11:21

[SPOILER="Spoiler"]
Quote from SozenCratosFocker;633575:
Not likely. The Fomor leader, Shakar, is dead. Blackhammer, if he's even still alive is probably in no condition to lead them. The Fomors follow whoever's strongest, which means that whoever's next in line will be weaker than shakar and black hammer, so probably no match for the player or Kaeghan(players pwned BH twice, and Kaeghan was basically tied with Shakar during the first BH fight).
The fomors lost their best warriors and their leaders, and the lizards are rebelling. It looks like the humans have the advantage now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the pre-Controlled BH cutscene seems to imply Black Hammer was unable to bring himself to kill Shakarr. I might have misread that though. That being the case, then Shakarr is still alive. Of course this means nothing as he is defeated by the player (and potentially Keaghen as well, since Keaghen is right there in the post fight cutscene).[/SPOILER]

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