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Compass wrote on 2011-12-31 14:34
Quote from Mystickskye;714789:
If you wanna get closer to having a better comp then you'll want a better CPU and GPU :p
Besides which, Osay's comp isn't as super as everyone makes out :p
What's a GPU? O:
I don't know the acronyms for computer parts.
It may not be, but you have to admit if you owned a computer like that wouldn't you want to brag?
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Mystickskye wrote on 2011-12-31 14:38
GPU = graphics processing unit, a shorthand way of referring to the graphics card.
It's one thing to brag about your own system (I try not to myself) but it's almost like some people worship Osay's comp :p
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Tsubaki wrote on 2011-12-31 22:52
Quote from Yoorah;714191:
7000 series already came out, but it's priced at a premium. :P
the 7000 series hasn't come out.
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Yoorah wrote on 2011-12-31 23:24
lol @ above. The 7970 has been manufactured, shipped, priced and reviewed. It's been
launched on Dec 22nd. It's been marketed in a way that won't interfere with the pricing of the current cards, at least for now. The fact that you have to wait a few more days before you can actually buy one doesn't mean anything in the context of this thread.
@Compass, you really need to decide on what you actually want here. You were saying you wanted to cut costs, but now you want to build an extravagant system instead? It's hard to give any meaningful advice when the problem isn't defined!
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Compass wrote on 2012-01-01 02:07
Quote from Yoorah;715605:
@Compass, you really need to decide on what you actually want here. You were saying you wanted to cut costs, but now you want to build an extravagant system instead? It's hard to give any meaningful advice when the problem isn't defined!
At first I wanted to buy the computer right away but now I'll wait until spring comes and buy the "extravagant system" that I want when the GPU prices get lowered.
Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-01-01 21:53
oic, but if you're building something extravagant.. the only reason to wait is so you can buy the newer tech. lolol
Anyway, if you want to go the leet route, Intel just released their Sandy Bridge E tech. For now, only the expensive ($1000) Extreme Edition CPU is available. The Intel Core i7 3930K (~$555) however is a more realistic CPU. Like Osay's older chip, this is a 6 core, 12 thread (12 "virtual CPUs") beast. Motherboards that support it (LGA 2011 based) are also more expensive than the ones for normal chips like the Core i7 2600K, but support as much as 64GB of RAM (and in quad channel, as opposed to dual channel). You also get PCIe 3.0 support, which is nice for future-proofing, or for GPU compute purposes now. The only downside, aside from price, is that you lose Intel QuickSync, which is a cool feature for speeding up video transcoding if you have the right software.
Using this platform, you can build a system that's more powerful than Osay's older gen, and for less money. But chances are that unlike Osay, you wouldn't know what to do with all that compute power. I also doubt you could afford to spend $555+ on just a CPU alone, haha.
But if you wait until around May, Intel should be launching their mainstream-performance CPU refresh, known as Ivy Bridge. The compute power will be about the same as current Sandy Bridge (not Sandy Bridge E) chips, but they will be more power efficient, and they will have some extra nice things like PCIe 3.0 support, improved QuickSync and some other things that don't really matter to you. By then, AMD will likely launch the rest of their 7000 line (if not much sooner?), and maybe NVIDIA will have new stuff ready as well.
I was planning to go the Sandy Bridge E beat route personally, but given that I might be moving apts soon, I don't wanna built a comp that I'll have to move later. D8 And Ivy Bridge might just be good enough for my needs.
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Osayidan wrote on 2012-01-01 22:01
LGA 2011 is crazy 0:
Did you get to see one up close yet? The socket is massive.
Built a demo system with one, can't wait until clients start ordering that.
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-01-01 22:39
Haven't seen one IRL. D: EE stuff is not for me. :<
But I have seen
this:
[Image: http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/SNBE/3820/DSC_4885sm.jpg]
LGA 2011 vs LGA 1155 (like i7 2600K)
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Compass wrote on 2012-01-05 13:35
Wait, do I need to buy the cables for the computer (Like SATA cables and stuff) or does it come with the motherboard or some other piece?
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Rydian wrote on 2012-01-05 15:14
Usually the motherboard comes with one or two SATA cables, if you look at the packaging pictures it tends to show it. As for power cables they're the PSU's thing. Careful about getting drives online, "OEM" drives tend to come without cables.
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-01-05 15:43
Motherboards tend to come with more than enough SATA cables. :P Even the cheap ones include at least two--one for the hard drive, and one for the optical drive. The mid-range models usually include at least 3 or 4, in case you want to connect one more hard drive or SSD.
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Compass wrote on 2012-01-05 18:29
Oh okay thanks for the help.
+rep to you two
Even though I won't buy the computer now I updated my build so now everything is about 470$
I didn't add a CD/DVD drive to reduce costs and I can easily install windows XP/7 from a USB drive.
And as for the hard drive I'll just use my old one but if my dad allows it I'll buy a 1TB one (and that'll raise the cost to nearly 600$).
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Mystickskye wrote on 2012-01-05 22:58
That PSU won't do. It lacks PCI-E connectors completely and you need one for the graphics card (this is ignoring that it's an unknown brand and lacks 80+ spec). Something like
this should serve you well. If the wattage isn't enough for whatever reason then there are some other similar products.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371023
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371046
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371046
At that price point I'd also recommend the i3-2100 over that phenom. You may also want to consider the 6790 over the 550Ti. Similar pricing but the 6790 edges out over the 550Ti. Tomshardware goes so far as to say that the 6790 "runs circles around the similarly-priced GeForce GTX 550 Ti".
I'm still not sure what you want from your computer system, you seem to be seesawing back and forth :p
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Compass wrote on 2012-01-08 00:51
Quote from Mystickskye;724053:
That PSU won't do. It lacks PCI-E connectors completely and you need one for the graphics card (this is ignoring that it's an unknown brand and lacks 80+ spec). Something like this should serve you well. If the wattage isn't enough for whatever reason then there are some other similar products.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371023
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371046
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371046
Oh I just choose that power supply because it looks pretty.
Also I'm not sure on how PSU work but the motherboard I chose uses a 24pin power connector and you showed me a 20+4 would it still work?
:O?
At that price point I'd also recommend the i3-2100 over that phenom. You may also want to consider the 6790 over the 550Ti. Similar pricing but the 6790 edges out over the 550Ti. Tomshardware goes so far as to say that the 6790 "runs circles around the similarly-priced GeForce GTX 550 Ti".
I'm still not sure what you want from your computer system, you seem to be seesawing back and forth :p
Well I prefer AMD over Intel, it's not a big deal if the i3-2100 does a better job as long as it works.
Also I've checked the 6790 and none of them have a VGA input/output, they use DVIs and I plan on using my old monitor.
Also I just want a computer that's can play games on high settings ;~;
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Sapphireoath wrote on 2012-01-08 05:57
My 6970 only has DVI/HDMI. [S]It came with a VGA to DVI adapter though.[/S](Nevermind it didn't come with one, I already had one on hand. You can get them though.)
Maybe the 6790 comes with the adapter too :P
Edit: I read some article on this tech website (idk the website) recently about this guy who got 2 550-Ti's for SLI mode. Apparently they couldn't run Skyrim on Ultra that well, and that was 2 =/. I think it was 550-TI. I'm only going from memory here.
Imo I recommend a 6970, but I'm probably a bit biased :P (really love mine, no regrets xD)
Edit2: This is the card I got:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125371
Runs everything I have played so far at maximum settings in 1920x1080 (including games like BF3, Skyrim with HD texture mods etc)
Also, not sure if anyone has suggested brands for the PSU. Imo Corsair, Antec are 2 main ones (I know there are a few more "Main" brands. But I honestly can't remember)
Get a PSU with at least 100w-200w more than the recommended for the GPU (6970 recommended is 550w)
So something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044
Or this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021
(Note: I only had a quick look, so there could be better/cheaper ones on there. I'm not too familiar with the site, but I noticed most of you US people seem to always look on it)
Off-topic: I wish Australia had an online shop like Newegg :(