Quote from Sumpfkraut;729686:
Do you think this is a joke? There are a few worlds between "just entered the room without being aware of anything" and "clearly only a split second away from killling the baby", so your deranged cynicism was very much unfitting. And even so, there are non-lethal ways to incapacitate someone, even with firearms.
But I know you people aren't prone to reason for otherwise you all wouldn't have jumped on the "glorious slaughter for children!" wagon without even considering the actual victim's family, so why do I even bother~
Ouch. No matter, I could spew insults all day at a person with an opposing view if I wanted to. But it seems that even the people least "prone to reason" are capable of knowing that this does nothing for an argument. People are not their ideas. The idea "unreasonable idea = unreasonable person" is false. Nor are people arguments, and thus they should not be opposed with arguments. Instead, one should oppose only an argument with an argument. Insults have no place in... pretty much anywhere.
Thomas Hobbes points out in his book Leviathan that men in the State of Nature, which is the state prior to being in the government, are in a state of war with each other: "Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war, and such a war as is of every man against every man. For war consisteth not in battle only, or in the act of fighting, but in a tract of time wherein the will to contend by battle is sufficiently known." (Leviathan Part 1, Chapter XIII). This is because men possess equal faculties of body and mind, and from this equality shall arise insecurity, and therefore mans tendency to secure himself by violence. Hobbes then goes on to say "To this war of every man against every man, this also is consequent: that nothing can be unjust. The notions of right and wrong, justice and injustice, have there no place. Where there is no common power, there is no law; where no law, no injustice." (Leviathan Part 1, Chapter XIII). Because men in the State of Nature lack a common power, it cannot be said that there is injustice in this state. There is no law without a law giver.
However, this state of war and chaos produces many undesirable side effects, and from this springs the need for government, also known as commonwealth. Hobbes defines commonwealth as such: "one person, of whose acts a great multitude, by mutual covenants one with another, have made themselves every one the author, to the end he may use the strength and means of them all, as he shall think expedient, for their peace and common defence." (Levithan Part 2, Chapter XVII). So, men form a government when they come together and contract with one another, relinquishing some of their rights to a sovereign or sovereigns (in the case of the USA the executive, judicial, and legislative branches). One part of this contract here in the United States is that we not threaten/invade others property rights or their right to defend their lives and the tools they find expedient to the preservation of their lives (houses, food, money, etc.).
So, this burglar, who's death
was sad and undesirable, violated his contract and that woman's right to defend her life and the tools expedient to the preservation of it, and therefore, his share in the contract is void, causing him to be in the state of war with that woman. Ideally we would have the authorities take care of him and the lady, as part of what the government is charged with is "promoting the general welfare" of the people, and defending them and keeping the peace between them. However, this woman who's rights were violated by the burglar felt that her life/tools for preserving life were endangered to such a degree that she could not wait for the authorities, and so it is acceptable that she shot the man since they were no longer in contract of peace with one another.
Well, even if you don't agree, I hope that you got something out of this bit of "deranged unreasonableness" since it did take some time to type and look up quotes for (if you read it that is).
Have a nice evening (or whatever it is in your country),
Polka