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Milk wrote on 2012-01-25 11:32
Excuse me if I have some grammatical errors. :3
Also don't hate me. :x
I'm just all rawr faced after lisening to that video in the Women of the media thread.
"Feminism is the idea that we can make both sexes equal by focusing solely on the issues of one of them."
I personaly hate feminist people with a passion. Everytime I hear them talk they always try to make it seem like all inequalities that exist in between the two sexes are aimed to empower men and descriminate women, that there are no inequality that effect males negatively, that they do not exist. To me they just sound like a bunch of ignorant idiots who claim that they just want to stop being descriminated by males and the media but when it comes to something that effects them in a less favorable way they choose to simply ignore it.
For example after doing research ive found that domestic violence is just as common on males as it is on women. It's just not taken as seriously by the media and police. Just awhile back i remember hearing about a feminist show on TV makeing jokes and laughing about a news article. The news article spoke about how a woman chopped off her husbands penis and tossed it down the garbage disposel because he wanted a divorce. They talked about it and said that this was amazing, that she empowered and treated her like a hero while laughing at the guy, and yes this was allowed to air on national telivision. Now imagine if the rolls where flipped? If it was a group of men laughing at an article that talked about a guy chopping of his wifes breast? Would feminist find that funny? Would today's media allow stuff like that to air?
Men have less rights when it comes to:
Who gets custody of a child after a divorce.
When it comes to paying child support.
Statisticly it is shown that women are often giving up to 40% less jail time than a male who commits the same crime.
When it comes to who has to sign up with selective services, etc.
Now I'm not saying that females have it easier than males when it comes to the issue of sexism, Im simply just asking that for all you feminist to acknowledges that sexism effects both sides and that in order to achieve equality you have to want to fix attack both sides.
What do you guys think about feminism?
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-01-25 12:13
They should go back to the kitchen.
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Medusa wrote on 2012-01-25 12:16
to me, sexism against men is in the same boat as racism against whites; i have no doubt that it exists but, honestly, does anyone actually care?
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Cucurbita wrote on 2012-01-25 12:18
OH SCREW THAT
I'm in for the anti feminist movement.
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Milk wrote on 2012-01-25 12:27
Quote from Medusa;748439:
to me, sexism against men is in the same boat as racism against whites; i have no doubt that it exists but, honestly, does anyone actually care?
Thats the point o: No one does cares owo But im just making a point. I dont think feminist realise that there is sexism towards men o: and how can a group that claims that they want women to be treated like equals ignore the fact that sexism exist on both sides.
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Ithiliel wrote on 2012-01-25 14:14
Every girl is a feminist if they want to have equal rights for themselves. People fail to differentiate between feminists and the extreme feminist. I've noticed most of the time when people talk about feminists they're referring to the extremists. Quite honestly it pisses me off when people are too stupid to realize the difference between the two.
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Hannah's Lover wrote on 2012-01-25 14:54
Quote from Lilith;748504:
Every girl is a feminist if they want to have equal rights for themselves. People fail to differentiate between feminists and the extreme feminist. I've noticed most of the time when people talk about feminists they're referring to the extremists. Quite honestly it pisses me off when people are too stupid to realize the difference between the two.
this.
If you want to be treated like a ****ing tool, fine, don't be feminist, might as well have men rape you constantly, and be forced to be a slave for.
Extreme feminists aren't really feminists, they're just sexist feeling like women are superior to men.
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2012-01-25 14:57
extreme feminists are insane...
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Taycat wrote on 2012-01-25 19:10
I love all the jokes people make about women though...
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Milk wrote on 2012-01-25 21:42
Quote from Lilith;748504:
Every girl is a feminist if they want to have equal rights for themselves. People fail to differentiate between feminists and the extreme feminist. I've noticed most of the time when people talk about feminists they're referring to the extremists. Quite honestly it pisses me off when people are too stupid to realize the difference between the two.
I think ive failed to realise the difference.
I don't think the word Feminist is best to describe people like you though. I mean I support the idea that women need to gain the same rights as males when it comes down to just about every issue that affects them in any negative way but that doesnt make me a feminist does it? :/
I guess it just pisses me of when ever i hear a feminist put all the blame on "males".
Edit: I believe that sexism isn't an issue that is created by one side or the other(males & females). Sexism exist because both sides let it exist and it effects both sides in both positive and negative ways and to be pro one side while blaming it solely on the othet side is just crazy.
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Kaeporo wrote on 2012-01-25 22:06
[video=youtube;I3cGfrExozQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3cGfrExozQ&feature=related[/video]
The same logic applies to any form of injustice.
Feminists waste their time promoting equality while sexists waste their time promoting sexism just as racists waste their time promoting racism, religious fanatics waste time promoting their religion and linguists waste time translating information that should be standardized.
These people could instead focus on things that actually protect and further the development of mankind. It's a shame that people are stupid.
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Joker wrote on 2012-01-25 22:54
Quote from Milk;748405:
Excuse me if I have some grammatical errors. :3
Also don't hate me. :x
I'm just all rawr faced after lisening to that video in the Women of the media thread.
"Feminism is the idea that we can make both sexes equal by focusing solely on the issues of one of them."
I personaly hate feminist people with a passion. Everytime I hear them talk they always try to make it seem like all inequalities that exist in between the two sexes are aimed to empower men and descriminate women, that there are no inequality that effect males negatively, that they do not exist. To me they just sound like a bunch of ignorant idiots who claim that they just want to stop being descriminated by males and the media but when it comes to something that effects them in a less favorable way they choose to simply ignore it.
For example after doing research ive found that domestic violence is just as common on males as it is on women. It's just not taken as seriously by the media and police. Just awhile back i remember hearing about a feminist show on TV makeing jokes and laughing about a news article. The news article spoke about how a woman chopped off her husbands penis and tossed it down the garbage disposel because he wanted a divorce. They talked about it and said that this was amazing, that she empowered and treated her like a hero while laughing at the guy, and yes this was allowed to air on national telivision. Now imagine if the rolls where flipped? If it was a group of men laughing at an article that talked about a guy chopping of his wifes breast? Would feminist find that funny? Would today's media allow stuff like that to air?
Men have less rights when it comes to:
Who gets custody of a child after a divorce.
When it comes to paying child support.
Statisticly it is shown that women are often giving up to 40% less jail time than a male who commits the same crime.
When it comes to who has to sign up with selective services, etc.
Now I'm not saying that females have it easier than males when it comes to the issue of sexism, Im simply just asking that for all you feminist to acknowledges that sexism effects both sides and that in order to achieve equality you have to want to fix attack both sides.
What do you guys think about feminism?
got that far then thought about how there are some black people who do the same thing... OHH its because your racist.... oh... its because im black isnt it.. etc etc lol... (only come across a few ppl like this)
but yeah some feminists are really annoying came across 1... she likes ruling on her throne ...thats all i can say
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Milk wrote on 2012-01-25 23:17
Quote from Joker;748687:
got that far then thought about how there are some black people who do the same thing... OHH its because your racist.... oh... its because im black isnt it.. etc etc lol... (only come across a few ppl like this)
but yeah some feminists are really annoying came across 1... she likes ruling on her throne ...thats all i can say
Saying that your a feminist doesn't only mean that you want women to have the same rights as men, it also means that you believe that America is bassed of a patriachy :/. Look it up if you don't know what that means. Maybe you could have gotten away with believeing that 500 to maybe 200 years ago but there is no way in hell that thats true today.
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Osayidan wrote on 2012-01-25 23:26
I'm for true gender equality. Not feminism.
And I mean literal equality. If dudes can punch each other in the shoulder and change/shower together now, then literal gender equality would mean men and women can do it too. If dudes can talk about female genitals while having lunch, then they shouldn't have to shut up and act innocent when female coworkers come in out of fear of sexual harassment claims.
I don't see feminism as portrayed in society today as gender equality, I see it as women wanting more of what men already have (and that part is perfectly fine) while also wanting to retain all the "good" discrimination that exists such as women getting away with stuff more easily than men, changing/shower rooms split off from men's, getting paid for on dates and all that stuff.
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Joker wrote on 2012-01-25 23:33
Quote from Milk;748700:
Saying that your a feminist doesn't only mean that you want women to have the same rights as men, it also means that you believe that America is bassed of a patriachy :/. Look it up if you don't know what that means. Maybe you could have gotten away with believeing that 500 to maybe 200 years ago but there is no way in hell that thats true today.
lol you are taking this way to seriously .... O_O lol
I dont believe in feminism or even racial equality I believe in being treated for what you earn ... if your a total douchebag i hope you get treated as such... if your nice then I hope you get ahead in life and have a good one... feminism to me is well semantics :l and i don't care much for it, earn how you want to be treated (in a perfect world right?)
tldr; I believe in earning how your treated (aside from being a child, they don't really know any better till a certain age)