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Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-07-03 10:30
How am I supposed to train it from Rank E to Rank 6? Without buying any of the cuilin stones. I might buy white herbs when I need it.
I know there is a mission called Stones of Silab Cuilin. Do I mine at the regular mining area, or the stones near monsters or do I need to fight through the mission? Should I do advanced or the hard mode mission?
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Cannibal wrote on 2010-07-03 10:34
I think you have to fight to be able to mine any of the stones in that mission. I actually think that if all you're doing is mining, you should do the mission on basic, especially if you're not in the mood for fighting. If you're not up for that, the advanced mission is alright, and I get through it pretty well.
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Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-07-03 10:51
I know that you can mine at the bottom centre map without fighting in the mission, just that I'm not sure if you can get fine and finest cuilin stones out of there....
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December wrote on 2010-07-03 11:19
You quite literally, wont be needing Fine or Finest Stones from rank E to rank 6
Simply go to the 'real world' and mine at Silab Culin for Low and Common Grade Stones.
From Rank F to A its all the same
- First of all get all of the "Win Battle Requirements", simply go to brown foxes or raccoons at Dugald Isle, you should be able to get atleast 50 kills per crystal
-Then work on 'Making Crystals', for most ranks it will give you more EXP than the "Summoning Requirement" and also helps you train Alchemy Mastery
-When both Battle and Crystal Creation requirements are done, just spam Summon Golem then desummoning by right clicking
It doesn't particularly matter which order you do it in, Making or Summoning, I prefer making as I can train Mastery
Rank 9 to Rank 6 is fairly similiar, the only difference is that making Sulfur Crystals (Common Stones), now give EXP
Simply follow the order as previous. Battle > Create > Summon
Whether or not you make Sulfur Crystals is up to you, making them will mean it will greatly reduce the amount of Low Grade stones required, however it demands a supply of White Herbs either requiring money or a herb pet
Rank 5-2 is when you start getting the option of Fine and Rank 1 is when you can finally use Finest
In short to answer your question:
You will not need Fine or Finest until rank 5 (rank 1)
Low and Common Grade will suffice and are found at regular Silab Cullin
Edit:
If you do plan going past rank 5, just do the mission on Basic Level, I believe the level of difficulty does not affect the ore. Something to note however is that the boss of that shadow mission drops crystal stacks depending on the difficulty.
Hope that helped
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Justified wrote on 2010-07-03 11:20
From what all the golem users I know tell me, all missions drop stones at the same rate. Only the red stones near mobs will drop the higher quality ones.
Although, you'd probably want to do Advance or Hard so that you can get Sulfur/Snow crystal drops from the boss, since it's a 100% drop rate.
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Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-07-03 11:43
Ok.
Few more questions, is summon golem useful at Rank 6? (and alchemy mastery 1)
When should I and when should I not use summon golem for partying?
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-07-03 12:09
With a high Alchemy Mastery like that, Summon Golem is bound to be useful at most ranks. Rank 6 is pretty good, but you want to aim for higher, obviously.
Rank 1 Golem + Rank 1 AM make an amazing combination.
Oh and use a Clay Cylinder for another small bonus.
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Arus wrote on 2010-07-03 12:18
Yes, it's useful. The best results come from sulfur and snow golems, though. The damage increase is significant enough to warrant ranking it further.
You can use a golem whenever you want, really. If you know how to party play as a character, then you already know what to do as a golem. All that changes is that you're melee fighting from a safe distance while making yourself potentially vulnerable, which shouldn't be too much of an issue if you actively seek safe corners, keep defense/counter loaded (or have a pet to protect you, or both) and/or hide behind barrier spikes. Just be wary of how far in a floor you are when you're summoning them in dungeons, as they crumble when you change areas.
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-07-03 15:45
Snow Golems themselves are stronger than most melee people in the game. In partying, it is basically a melee only character that doesn't have much penalty when it dies.
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Zack wrote on 2010-07-05 00:53
Quote from Justified;81208:
From what all the golem users I know tell me, all missions drop stones at the same rate. Only the red stones near mobs will drop the higher quality ones.
Although, you'd probably want to do Advance or Hard so that you can get Sulfur/Snow crystal drops from the boss, since it's a 100% drop rate.
They are probably a 90% drop rate since I have gotten only hunter boots and gold before.
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Sayoko wrote on 2010-07-05 01:45
Quote from Justified;81208:
From what all the golem users I know tell me, all missions drop stones at the same rate. Only the red stones near mobs will drop the higher quality ones.
Although, you'd probably want to do Advance or Hard so that you can get Sulfur/Snow crystal drops from the boss, since it's a 100% drop rate.
Not 100%. Sometimes I get nothing from the golem when I'm unlucky. 100 missions gave me 99 snow golem crystals. One time it dropped arrows but it happens about as often as getting bat dresses.
Btw, mind posting a SS of a r1 alchemy mastery golem? Just want to see how big it is.
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Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-07-05 18:28
I also think it is a 99%. I have been doing hard mode at the start, about 8 times. Now I do basic difficulty as it is so much faster to get cuilin stones.
Rank 6 is pretty tough. Makes me glad that I have been mining all along and reserving my extra stone golem crystals for this rank.
Here's how a Rank 1 Alchemy Mastery golem looks like.
(The only possible golem-speak is through writing... XD)
[Image: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8313/golem1.jpg]
[Image: http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6500/golem2.jpg]
Forest Golems are really strong for both difficult and hard mode missions with AM1 and numbered summon golem rank. It's already a lot stronger than most melee players (I wonder how it will fare at R1...probably beastly as speculated) and the range is great. I'm really looking forward to using sulphur and snow golems.
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Sayoko wrote on 2010-07-05 19:10
Awwww, r1 golem doesn't look as big as I expected to be. Thought it would be like ciar normal size. Forest golem is enough in most cases, r1 golem, r5 alchemy mastery lets my golem wm for 1 k+ which is about as much as an average 1 k+ melee character.
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Yanm wrote on 2010-07-05 19:49
Quote from Sayoko;82864:
Awwww, r1 golem doesn't look as big as I expected to be. Thought it would be like ciar normal size. Forest golem is enough in most cases, r1 golem, r5 alchemy mastery lets my golem wm for 1 k+ which is about as much as an average 1 k+ melee character.
r1 Mastery and r6 Golem is what that is I think. r1 Golem with r1 mastery should be as big as Ciar Normal I bet xD
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Sam wrote on 2010-07-05 19:53
[video=youtube;z93yboQmBLk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z93yboQmBLk[/video]
[video=youtube;bWm_qcIiUWw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWm_qcIiUWw[/video]
here are two videos for making training the golem hits quite easy.
ps. these videos aren't mine, they belong to h1111 on ruairi
http://www.youtube.com/user/h2321
rep me if i helped you! :D