Officially Unofficial League of Legends Thread

• Byte wrote on 2010-10-23 01:35

  Quote from Liraiyu;191467:

  Well... Remember, you are meant to die. There's no way of avoiding it.
  You die for the team. Because of this, you won't have a fancy kill death ratio or anything.
  
  Build Armor/Magic Resist BEFORE you build health. Having 4000 health means nothing if everyone is dealing full damage to you.
  
  Initiate. You run in before everyone else. Having a good way of doing this is something all tanks need to be effective.
  Malphite can charge in and knock everyone up. Amumu can bandage in and use his ult to snare everyone. Those are both brilliant.
  Mordekaiser... Can run in and hope people focus him. So he's not a very good tank.
  
  And remember: Tanks are very team-dependant. You can be the best tank in the world, but it means nothing if your team is bad.
  It's an important role though. Every team needs a tank, or they have a very high chance of losing the match.
  
  And if you want a good tank, I suggest Shen or Rammus.
  Amumu is nearly always banned in ranked, but if you plan on playing normal matches he's the best choice, hands down.

  
  
  No No No.
  
  Your job isn't to die for your team, it's to make sure you're alive to protect your team.
  
  You build Magic resist if their team is building a lot on AP/If the one carrying is a mage. Armor if they're building DPS or you see a Madreds. Health is common with Sunfires BUT Madreds rapes.
  
  Some tanks aren't meant to initiate. You don't want to run in before someone with a better initiation e.g. Veigar. If your carries have a stun, like Ashe, let her ult before getting close to your enemies. Map Awareness is key.
  
  Every team doesn't need a tank, you can use supports too [shields + heal].
• Shanghai wrote on 2010-10-23 01:59
  I know the ins and outs of Veigar already(read a guide), so Baleful Strike is a must-must for last hitting(need that juicy AP) but pointers on avoiding ganks would be nice. Yeah, I probably should have gone for armor instead of LOLOL3KHPMAKESMEINVINCIBLETODAMAGEHURHUR items. In most of those games that I lost at, the team had 2 tanks and we had none(but we mainly had DPS characters and mages) which is why I'm focusing on trying to play as a Tank. I hate Shen as it is right now, since I'm always dying to one, so he's out of the question. Rammus seems a bit expensive to get, but I've got enough IP for a 1.3k champion(was IP farming). Any recommendations?
• Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-10-23 03:15

  Quote from Shanghai;191494:

  I know the ins and outs of Veigar already(read a guide), so Baleful Strike is a must-must for last hitting(need that juicy AP) but pointers on avoiding ganks would be nice. Yeah, I probably should have gone for armor instead of LOLOL3KHPMAKESMEINVINCIBLETODAMAGEHURHUR items. In most of those games that I lost at, the team had 2 tanks and we had none(but we mainly had DPS characters and mages) which is why I'm focusing on trying to play as a Tank. I hate Shen as it is right now, since I'm always dying to one, so he's out of the question. Rammus seems a bit expensive to get, but I've got enough IP for a 1.3k champion(was IP farming). Any recommendations?

  
  
  WARDS WARDS AND WARDS. After your first trip back, you should always have at least one ward in the river, and an optional ward near your nearest Buff Monster (Lizard Elders or Blue Golems). Against stealth champs, buy Oracle Elixirs, but only if you aren't dying a LOT.
  
  
  Also, ALWAYS say mias, no matter what. Also 'res' which is said when someone is back after a mia.
  
  Have good map awareness as well.
  
  Here is a list of tanks. Nasus, Amumu, Malphite, Sion, Singed, Nunu, Rammus, Mordekaiser, Alistar, Blitzcrank, Chogath, Dr.Mundo, Galio, Garen(More of a 'Tough' champ though), Gragas, Shen, Vladimir, and Taric.
• Byte wrote on 2010-10-23 03:18

  Quote from Shanghai;191494:

  I know the ins and outs of Veigar already(read a guide), so Baleful Strike is a must-must for last hitting(need that juicy AP) but pointers on avoiding ganks would be nice. Yeah, I probably should have gone for armor instead of LOLOL3KHPMAKESMEINVINCIBLETODAMAGEHURHUR items. In most of those games that I lost at, the team had 2 tanks and we had none(but we mainly had DPS characters and mages) which is why I'm focusing on trying to play as a Tank. I hate Shen as it is right now, since I'm always dying to one, so he's out of the question. Rammus seems a bit expensive to get, but I've got enough IP for a 1.3k champion(was IP farming). Any recommendations?

  
  
  Galio, Mordekaiser, Udyr(Great Jungler), Amumu(Great Jungler).
• Shanghai wrote on 2010-10-23 05:02

  Quote from Mrlucky77;191568:

  WARDS WARDS AND WARDS. After your first trip back, you should always have at least one ward in the river, and an optional ward near your nearest Buff Monster (Lizard Elders or Blue Golems). Against stealth champs, buy Oracle Elixirs, but only if you aren't dying a LOT.
  
  
  Also, ALWAYS say mias, no matter what. Also 'res' which is said when someone is back after a mia.
  
  Have good map awareness as well.
  
  Here is a list of tanks. Nasus, Amumu, Malphite, Sion, Singed, Nunu, Rammus, Mordekaiser, Alistar, Blitzcrank, Chogath, Dr.Mundo, Galio, Garen(More of a 'Tough' champ though), Gragas, Shen, Vladimir, and Taric.

  
  
  Wards were mentioned in a guide on Tristana, I didn't know if they were actually that useful or not. Mias? Not sure what you mean by that.
  
  

  Quote from Byte;191572:

  Galio, Mordekaiser, Udyr(Great Jungler), Amumu(Great Jungler).

  
  
  Galio costs 6.3k IP... Yup, not getting him. I'd be level 15 or something before I saved up that much IP. From personal preference on looks, I'd pick Nasus or Amumu in the 1.3k IP range.
• Liraiyu wrote on 2010-10-23 05:24

  Quote from Byte;191477:

  protect your team.

  
  
  And, in most cases, this involves dieing. Seriously, if you want to have 0 deaths, go play Kassadin with ghost+flash.
  Of course, you might not always die. Maybe the enemy team ignores you. Maybe they run at you 1 by 1 so nobody dies.
  Maybe your team just has the better comp.
  But when the time comes, don't run away so you live. Die so your Twitch can get into position and get a penta-kill.
  
  

  Quote from Byte;191477:

  You build Magic resist if their team is building a lot on AP/If the one carrying is a mage. Armor if they're building DPS or you see a Madreds. Health is common with Sunfires BUT Madreds rapes.

  
  
  OK. What I said assumes the enemy team has half a brain and has a BALANCED COMP.
  Not 5 AP champs. Not 5 AD champs. At mid-high elo teams are never unbalanced, so you basicly need both.
  
  

  Quote from Byte;191477:

  Some tanks aren't meant to initiate. You don't want to run in before someone with a better initiation

  
  
  All good tanks have a form of initiate.
  You know why Mundo and Morde are terrible tanks? Because they can't initiate.
  And if Veigar is initiating, he's putting himself in danger that could be avoided if the tank was doing his job.
  
  EDIT: Nasus is great, but underplayed. I don't know why, his voice is so amazing. If you are good at last-hitting, give Nasus a shot. You won't regret it.
  Or just get Amumu and be THE BEST TANK IN THE GAME
• Shanghai wrote on 2010-10-23 06:21

  Quote from Liraiyu;191668:

  And, in most cases, this involves dieing. Seriously, if you want to have 0 deaths, go play Kassadin with ghost+flash.
  Of course, you might not always die. Maybe the enemy team ignores you. Maybe they run at you 1 by 1 so nobody dies.
  Maybe your team just has the better comp.
  But when the time comes, don't run away so you live. Die so your Twitch can get into position and get a penta-kill.
  
  
  
  OK. What I said assumes the enemy team has half a brain and has a BALANCED COMP.
  Not 5 AP champs. Not 5 AD champs. At mid-high elo teams are never unbalanced, so you basicly need both.
  
  
  
  All good tanks have a form of initiate.
  You know why Mundo and Morde are terrible tanks? Because they can't initiate.
  And if Veigar is initiating, he's putting himself in danger that could be avoided if the tank was doing his job.
  
  EDIT: Nasus is great, but underplayed. I don't know why, his voice is so amazing. If you are good at last-hitting, give Nasus a shot. You won't regret it.
  Or just get Amumu and be THE BEST TANK IN THE GAME

  
  
  Well, considering the fact that I play 2 Champions that need to farm(Tristana and Veigar), I'm pretty good at determining times on when to last-hit. I might just buy Nasus for now and see how he plays, since he doesn't always have to be a tank(there are DPS builds for him), and then I can just buy Amumu later on. He doesn't cost much.
• mewball wrote on 2010-10-24 18:51
  Tanks are not supposed to die for the team, if you're a good tank you really shouldn't die...but be able to initiate and protect the carry. Though this can involve dying, most of the time if you have a decent team you should live. Also, good heroes for nubs are Ashe, Veiger, Warwick (depends), Nunu, Garen, Xin Zhao, Tristana, Pantheon, Yi, and Ryze. These guys are easy to understand what your job is and how to do it.
  
  Also, add AlexKunSanSama, if you have good enough games I'll play with you :3 also, 8/2 with shaco yay...against 10/0 mordekaiser and 5/0 swain >3>; 2 feeder team is feeding...
• Juno wrote on 2010-10-25 20:29
  A tank is supposed to run in and disrupt the enemies while being hard enough to kill that they can't effectively dps if they focus him. Basically, if they throw all their cooldowns on you and all focus fire you, you'll probably die. In that time your team should have done much more damage to them than they did to you and hopefully you absorbed some spells on long cooldowns or some crowd control that now isn't available to hit your carry. Different tanks have different ways of doing this.
  
  The fact of the matter is that early-mid game you'll likely not be tanky enough yet and will die a few times, though hopefully you caused enough damage to their positioning first.
  
  For a relatively easy to play tank, try Singed. His playstyle is straight forward and effective...not to mention fun.
• David wrote on 2010-10-27 05:18

  Quote from Byte;191477:

  Armor if they're building DPS or you see a Madreds.

  
  
  Madred's unique does magic damage.
• Liraiyu wrote on 2010-10-27 07:31
  Nooooooo, still not Irelia.
  Oh well. I can wait.
  
  Also, I hate my teammates.
  >Ally Twitch gets fed
  >'Oh yeah, an easy win. A shame for the other team, but whatever"
  But no. Enemy team has a Mundo building tank. And you know what?
  Twitch goes for him. He doesn't have ignite/executioners calling. He doesn't use Spray and Pray to hit everyone else on the enemy team.
  So I ask him why, for the love of god why he's aiming for Mundo.
  "If we kill the tank they have to retreat".
  FSDCGFNVX<NGN<FMCNVMZDXNZXCSDXESDFX<NH
  NO THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.
  YOU CAN EASILY GET A QUADRA-KILL ON THE SQUISHIES, BUT NO, YOU AIM FOR MUNDO WITH THORNMAIL AND END UP KILLING YOURSELF.
  I hate solo queue so very, very much.
• Byte wrote on 2010-10-28 02:43
  [Image: http://i53.tinypic.com/2zg9g5i.png]

  
  
  Cause we luuuuv Hybrid Yi.
• Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-10-28 03:25

  Quote from Byte;196910:

  [Image: http://i53.tinypic.com/2zg9g5i.png]

  
  
  Cause we luuuuv Hybrid Yi.

  
  
  
  Ooh nice. Oh wait, a fail ashe. No black cleav.
  
  Also, Aniv for the win.
• Byte wrote on 2010-10-28 03:28

  Quote from Mrlucky77;196932:

  Ooh nice. Oh wait, a fail ashe. No black cleav.
  
  Also, Aniv for the win.

  
  
  I laned against the Ashe, very very aggressive against early game hybrid yi = I win. :)
• Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-10-30 01:05
  Copied from Shen does it from all the way across the map - League of Legends Community
  
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  Shen does it from all the way across the map
  
  Gangplank does it wherever he wants.
  
  Teemo does it three times in a row.
  
  Sivir does it with her entire team.
  
  Lux lets you know when she wants to do it.
  
  Twisted Fate tells everyone when he's doing it.
  
  Ryze does it for free.
  
  Warwick won't let you move while he does it. Neither will Malzahar.
  
  Morgana does it with anyone who's standing nearby.
  
  Nasus gets a lot bigger when he does it.
  
  Cho'Gath gets a lot bigger after he does it.
  
  Annie does it with her bear Tibbers.
  
  Katarina does it to three people at once.
  
  Nunu has problems doing it.
  
  Karthus still does it when he's dead.
  
  Swain has to dress up like a bird in order to do it.
  
  Corki does it as often as he wants.
  
  Taric can't do it for very long.
  
  Udyr can't do it at all.
  
  Malphite does it in the middle of a crowd.
  
  Galio attracts a crowd when he does it.
  
  Twitch likes to surprise you when he does it.
  
  Tryndamere usually leaves after he does it.
  
  Singed likes to drink up before he does it.
  
  Gragas can't do it without a lot of alcohol.
  
  Tristana blows you away when she does it.
  
  Soraka makes you feel gooooood when she does it.
  
  Vladimir likes to make you bleed when he does it.
  
  Kog'Maw leaves a mess when he does it.
  
  Nidalee does it like a beast.
  
  Blitzcrank does it after grabbing you and fisting you.
  
  Shaco does it with himself.
  
  Zilean gets back up and leaves after he does it.
  
  Kayle uses protection when she does it.
  
  Olaf does it with extra penetration.
  
  Miss Fortune spreads when she does it.
  
  Garen does it for Demacia.
  
  Mordekaiser makes you his slave when he does it.
  
  Janna likes to keep her distance when she does it.
  
  Ashe leaves you stunned when she does it.
  
  Urgot likes to switch positions while he does it.
  
  Veigar can't do it like he used to.
  
  Master Yi is ready to do it again if he did it right the first time.
  
  Xin Zhao does it with you as soon as he runs into you.
  
  Poppy only does it with one person, but she likes to do it when other people are around.
  
  Kassadin hurts you more each time he does it.
  
  Alistar gets harder when he does it, but people usually ignore him.
  
  Amumu usually cries when he does it.
  
  Anivia does it in short bursts.
  
  Akali does it quickly.
  
  Heimerdinger has trouble deciding when to do it.
  
  Evelynn does it, but no one ever notices.
  
  Fiddlesticks just shows up out of nowhere and starts doing it.
  
  Jax does it all the time.
  
  Kennen does it loudly.
  
  Rammus makes the ground shake when he does it.
  
  Sona does it aurally.
  
  Sion does it because he likes how it feels.
  
  Dr. Mundo does it because he likes how it makes you feel.