Goodbye, for now.

• Moppy wrote on 2012-03-19 02:43

  Quote from Lan;811958:

  Juno's the ultimate authority other than Osay but he would rather leave the enforcing up to the staff. TA mostly evaluates the staff and reports post and leaves the staff to deal with them to see what they do.
  
  ATM it's
  
  Osay-->Juno-->TA (Because she decides who in the staff stays or goes)-->Staff-->MOPPY-->Members, in terms of power. Though soon it will be Osay-->Juno-->Members after all the staff are fully trained :D

  
  
  FIXED
• Bride wrote on 2012-03-19 02:45

  Quote from Morrigan;811714:

  What the title says. I may lurk here and there, maybe a rare post, but I'm kind of sick of the way things are here.
  
  The strictness is absolutely insane and unneeded, in my opinion. But yeah, have fun with that.
  
  I miss the days where you could joke around freely without the threat of someone getting so absolutely insulted, even if it wasn't directed at them. I honestly haven't seen much scrapping around here and the desperation seems uncalled for, even a more active member agrees with me. (I won't say who.)
  
  So, goodbye, and R.I.P old Nation.
  
  Enjoy your power, TA.

  
  I think you and I would get along pretty well
  
  :oops:
  
  I agree these forums aren't the same, and so many people are posting much less or leaving altogether :(
  
  i talked to you only once but i favored you a lot more than i did many members of this community u_u7
• Hannah's Lover wrote on 2012-03-19 02:45

  Quote from Lan;811958:

  Juno's the ultimate authority other than Osay but he would rather leave the enforcing up to the staff. TA mostly evaluates the staff and reports post and leaves the staff to deal with them to see what they do.
  
  ATM it's
  
  Osay-->Juno-->TA (Because she decides who in the staff stays or goes)-->Staff-->Members, in terms of power. Though soon it will be Osay-->Juno-->Members after all the staff are fully trained :D

  
  
  You misread that, which is my fault
  
  I meant that as "Juno is pimp" and not "Juno is TA's pimp" xD
• Skye wrote on 2012-03-19 03:16

  Quote from Lan;811906:

  There's still Juno who does her ninja admin stuff.

  
  
  WHEN DID YOU BECOME UNMODDED.
  
  @Morrigan - I feel ya. In all honesty, I'd leave for good as soon as you can. I'm still trying to work up to that, but I also wanna see how far I can go before I get in trouble~
  It's fun representing only myself now!
• Hannah's Lover wrote on 2012-03-19 03:27

  Quote from Skye;812011:

  WHEN DID YOU BECOME UNMODDED.
  
  @Morrigan - I feel ya. In all honesty, I'd leave for good as soon as you can. I'm still trying to work up to that, but I also wanna see how far I can go before I get in trouble~
  It's fun representing only myself now!

  
  I've spent the last year coming here every day and spending hours at a time talking to you guys, so for me, it's not a simple, just get up and walk away thing.
  I want to, and I almost did it, but then I got curious and yep, here I am, stuck again. ;_;
  
  I mean, I don't want it to seem like I don't care about you guys, because I do.
  I just no longer feel welcome here, like at all.
  
  
  AND LAN Y U DEMOTED?
• Lan wrote on 2012-03-19 03:35
  When TA stripped my ban pan of all its powers D: Except making good food.
• Skye wrote on 2012-03-19 03:45

  Quote from Hannah's Lover;812031:

  I mean, I don't want it to seem like I don't care about you guys, because I do.
  I just no longer feel welcome here, like at all.

  
  
  SAME. But I've still got tumblr and skype that I can talk to people on, so whenever I can actually leave, it shouldn't bother people too much, if at all.
  
  

  Quote from Lan;812044:

  When TA stripped my ban pan of all its powers D: Except making good food.

  
  
  That was sweet of her!
• Hannah's Lover wrote on 2012-03-19 03:51

  Quote from Skye;812059:

  SAME. But I've still got tumblr and skype that I can talk to people on, so whenever I can actually leave, it shouldn't bother people too much, if at all.
  
  
  
  That was sweet of her!

  
  There's a few people I can only talk to on here, though.
  I don't want to be that bitch ditcher. ):
  
  But don't worry, I'll be perma banned soon enough, I know some of the mods want me gone, they're just waiting for the right moment.
• Cynic wrote on 2012-03-19 06:30
  I'm actually surprised that you're one of the people to get so iffy over the new rule. But I guess people are full of surprises.
  
  See ya' later.
• TA wrote on 2012-03-19 12:37

  Quote from Morrigan;811714:

  Enjoy your power, TA.

  
  
  What the hell did I do..?
  
  If you just want to slap a name on it and blame me for everything, then be my guest. But before you do that, you should go ahead and blame yourself.
  
  We have an entire section dedicated to community feedback, ideas, and suggestions. But if you'd rather just get your panties in a bunch and jump ship at the first sight of trouble rather than actually sticking around for the community that has been around for you for so long, then whatever. That's kind of a shitty attitude if you ask me.
  
  If I felt like something was wrong, I would go post about it and try to get something changed. Someone that would just up and leave... well, that just shows that you don't really give a crap about this community. It has nothing to do with Administration - that's all on you.
  
  Honestly... 7 brand new mods just thrown into it, with none of the old staff around to look to as examples (not that it would have done much good). What the hell did you expect to happen? Everyone to be precisely perfect from the first moment they get the job?
  
  I don't know what kind of magical world you guys are living in, but modding forums is like anything else. When you're new at it, you're bound to screw up and make a few mistakes. Make a few calls that are too harsh, a few that are too soft. But eventually you learn.
  
  There are 6 new mods right now. If you don't want to at least give them the courtesy of a bit of time to get everything down, then honestly, I can't respect that at all. It's like an insult to them, and an insult to this community.
  
  I'm not singling you out here, this goes to everyone that's gotten in a hissy and decided on leaving recently. It needs to be said.
  
  If you really feel you have problems that are so bad that you have to ditch this entire community, then if you really care about this community at all, you need to speak up and have your concerns heard and addressed.
  
  Keep individuals and names out of it. Address the core issues themselves. It doesn't even matter if you just want to blame everything on a single person. Channel that frustration into constructive feedback that addresses actions, policies, behaviors, not people. Chances are, you don't have the slightest clue what's going on anyways because all you see is the surface and not behind the scenes, so trying to single someone out wouldn't do you any good anyways. Problems. Issues. These are what are addressable. People are not.
  
  Rosters aren't going to change simply because you dislike someone. Actions, policies and behaviors, those have a very good chance of changing, if you have a good reason behind it.
  
  Honestly though? God forbid a forum actually enforce the rules they have.
  
  If we had rules but only selectively enforced them then it would only encourage favoritism because people would not be treated equally. Some things would be overlooked, while others would be blown out of proportion.
  
  I don't even see what the big deal is. What, you guys really feel the need to insult one another to "joke around?" That's ridiculous.
  
  If you have "fun" calling your friends names and insulting one another, then keep it off site. There are other ways to play around and have fun.
  
  So Nancy can't make a thread about her friend Jim, telling him he's a douchebag. Big fucking deal. Seriously.
  
  You guys need to look at this shit objectively.
  
  Where is the line drawn? What is considered an inside joke and not? If everyone is insulting one another as a joke, how do we know when it is really serious or not? You can point out one instance and try to make it your case, but you can't look at things in such a vacuum. Allow one instance, and you have to allow others. You don't know who are friends, and people you think are your friends may not be as good of friends as you think, and what you may say as joking around may genuinely offend them.
  
  Honestly... not being able to insult one another... nothing of value was lost.
  
  You don't need immature toilet humor at someone else's expense to have fun, and if you think you do, then something's terribly wrong.
  
  Anyways... like I said, if you ever really gave two shits about this community, you'd go explain what you think needs changed and fix it for the better for everyone, not just selfishly abandon all of us. All that accomplishes is showing the rest of us that you didn't even care enough to try to fix this community rather than just take the easy route and abandon it.
  
  And for your information, "my power" right now, that I am oh so enjoying, as you seem to imagine, involves keeping track of 6 different moderator log threads, 6 different moderator logs (actual logs), all of the report threads, and compiling crap into meaningful advice and overviews.
  
  Man, you'd better watch out... I might stare at some moderator logs a bit harder and chip a nail writing a review or something. Damn, that would be tragic. That could ruin the forum, right then and there.
  
  Honestly... I'm doing practically nothing right now. If you want to blame all of your problems on me, then go for it. I'm a great scapegoat. But you would be terribly mistaken, I'm afraid.
  
  It's like I said. You have 6 brand spanking new mods. Of course there's going to be a rocky start, and beyond that, you're going from a long period with an extremely low level of rule enforcement, a period of leniency and laxness, to a period where our rules (which have always existed) are just more clearly defined so there's a full transparency of our rules that will be enforced.
  
  If you want to be upset about something, make yourself useful and go complain and get some rules or policies changed. Just leaving doesn't help anyone.
  
  

  Quote from Lan;811958:

  Juno's the ultimate authority other than Osay but he would rather leave the enforcing up to the staff. TA mostly evaluates the staff and reports post and leaves the staff to deal with them to see what they do.
  
  ATM it's
  
  Osay-->Juno-->TA (Because she decides who in the staff stays or goes)-->Staff-->Members, in terms of power. Though soon it will be Osay-->Juno-->Members after all the staff are fully trained :D

  
  
  You're........ very [SIZE="1"]horrendously[/SIZE] misinformed.
  
  If it didn't dawn on you, when I use the phrases "We" and "Mabination Administration", I am not, in fact, referring to myself.
  
  I may manage the Staff, and I may be the one who sends everyone their reviews and crap, but it's the entire Administration that makes calls like that.
  
  As for the latter part of that, you shouldn't speak so matter-of-factly about something you haven't the slightest clue about.
• Morrigan wrote on 2012-03-19 14:45
  TA:
  
  I'm not being disrespectful to the other mods, I actually commend them, I only have a problem with one person on the staff.
  
  I have every right to leave and say what I think on my way out, without having my choice questioned and slandered in front of an entire community. You only proved my point.
  
  A lot of people agree with me, and I think you should just stop right there, who are you to act all high and mighty to someone who's LEAVING?
  
  Anywho, anyone who wants my skype can PM me for it.
• Cynic wrote on 2012-03-19 14:51
  I think you're confusing acting high and mighty with actually informing someone of the facts.
  
  If anything, you're acting needlessly hostile towards someone who's trying to shape up the forum. I'm not saying skepticism is unjust-- if anything, I can kind of agree with it. But throwing a fit and leaving instead of sticking around and seeing how it plays out? I'm sorry, but that's just childish and really, really judgmental.
  
  Especially since she's proved things are working alright thus far, give and take a few people acting childish and haughty.
  
  But if you and anyone else are intendin' on acting like that, then please, do leave. We don't need that kind of attitude here.
• TA wrote on 2012-03-19 15:08

  Quote from Morrigan;812313:

  A lot of people agree with me, and I think you should just stop right there, who are you to act all high and mighty to someone who's LEAVING?

  
  
  Someone who saw something wrong with the community and decided to try to help make it better, the best she can, rather than just abandoning it.
  
  If you don't like it then maybe you should step up instead of just abandoning everyone. That goes for everyone that suddenly decided they're leaving recently. None of this that I've said is directly to you. It is to everyone doing this.
  
  In all rights, it could have its own thread and not be here. But if you want to call me out in your leaving message, I have every right to respond. And if this is true:
  
  

  Quote from Morrigan;812313:

  I'm not being disrespectful to the other mods, I actually commend them, I only have a problem with one person on the staff.

  
  
  Then I'd say that actually reading what I wrote in my post above, rather than tl;dring it, would do you some good.
  
  I do a mighty fuck all here now. Pick any other member - they could be just as involved, do exactly what I do.
  
  And so can you.
  
  Honestly, people. You need to fix the community; not abandon it.
  
  edit: And guys... please don't tell people to leave, like I just saw above. I hope they all stay.
  
  I don't dislike any of you that are leaving because of this stuff, but I can't respect your decision.
  
  Morrigan - you've been here 2 years. Can you really abandon Nation after one week of ambiguity?
  
  I don't understand any of you guys. How can you be members here so long, dedicate so much time here, and then just up and leave on the drop of a dime without even trying to fix it?
  
  The only reason I even do any of what I've done is because I care about this community and want the best for it. It's a damn shame others don't care too.
• Intimacy wrote on 2012-03-19 15:42

  Quote from TA;812328:

  Someone who saw something wrong with the community and decided to try to help make it better, the best she can, rather than just abandoning it.
  
  If you don't like it then maybe you should step up instead of just abandoning everyone. That goes for everyone that suddenly decided they're leaving recently. None of this that I've said is directly to you. It is to everyone doing this.
  
  In all rights, it could have its own thread and not be here. But if you want to call me out in your leaving message, I have every right to respond. And if this is true:
  
  
  
  Then I'd say that actually reading what I wrote in my post above, rather than tl;dring it, would do you some good.
  
  I do a mighty fuck all here now. Pick any other member - they could be just as involved, do exactly what I do.
  
  And so can you.
  
  Honestly, people. You need to fix the community; not abandon it.
  
  edit: And guys... please don't tell people to leave, like I just saw above. I hope they all stay.
  
  I don't dislike any of you that are leaving because of this stuff, but I can't respect your decision.
  
  Morrigan - you've been here 2 years. Can you really abandon Nation after one week of ambiguity?
  
  I don't understand any of you guys. How can you be members here so long, dedicate so much time here, and then just up and leave on the drop of a dime without even trying to fix it?
  
  The only reason I even do any of what I've done is because I care about this community and want the best for it. It's a damn shame others don't care too.

  
  TA, if you don't mind me being blunt, but you ask people to speak up if they care for the community, yet when people voiced their hatred for you being anywhere near a position of power it was silenced and posts were hidden, isn't that giving a child a baseball bat and telling them not to hit the ball?
  
  The people who were against it most were the ones who were some of the most active, you do come off haughty from time to time and it really does rub people the wrong way. The most active members should know what's best for the community. just a thought, if they didn't care about the community, why would they have stayed?
• Rin wrote on 2012-03-19 16:20

  Quote from Hannah's Lover;811887:

  Do I detect sarcasm?

  
  
  It's not sarcasm.
  
  The rest of this thread only further supports my point: We can't all change for each other.
  
  And I really do wish Morrigan well. It was nice being acquainted with her on Skype.