New weapon, skills, items, and tweaks you'd like to see!~

• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-09-17 22:15

  Quote from Tropa;1247908:

  
  
  • Cylinder Penalties are removed
    

  
  
  Why are these necessary? Each element has like two or four skills. There isn't any type of "specialization" in the skillset, so why are penalties needed?

  
  
  Keep the penalties.
  
  Remove them when both a cylinder and a guard cylinder are equipped.
  
  Also, add all wings to ferghus's shop for 1 gold.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-09-17 22:16

  Quote from Tropa;1247908:

  
  
  • Cylinder Penalties are removed
    

  
  
  Why are these necessary? Each element has like two or four skills. There isn't any type of "specialization" in the skillset, so why are penalties needed?

  
  
  Elemental damage reduction or Guard Cylinder damage reduction?
• Tropa wrote on 2014-09-17 22:21

  Quote from Kaeporo;1247909:

  Keep the penalties.
  
  Remove them when both a cylinder and a guard cylinder are equipped.

  
  
  Or this, either way, I want them gone.
  
  I would really kill for a Cylinder that's 30% to all elements.
  
  

  Also, add all wings to ferghus's shop for 1 gold.

  
  
  Please, this.
• Tyskiyomy wrote on 2014-09-17 23:02

  Quote from Zekkii;1247905:

  Guess I should explain.
  
  1. The idea of using a weapon for a single skill is rather antiquated and boring, so giving all wands the ability to CC+4 would allow players more variety
  2. Firebolt does too much damage, Icebolt doesn't do enough so it's rarely used
  3. Fusion bolt at lower charges is useless but getting to higher charges is strained by lag and load time
  
  The knockback thing is just something that personally annoys me.

  
  
  1. I do agree the whole 1 weapon per bolt type, but It's also a bit excess to just make the rank give it rendering the upgrade obsolete. You could make it so cc affects all bolts used with a wand, because otherwise wands lose another trait leaving them with blaze, shield, and speed[somewhat] in comparison to a staff[Hermit to be specific and possibly Divine].
  
  2. Firebolt does interesting damage for a bolt, so yes it probably should do less. Icebolt could use a buff too.
  
  3. Fusion bolt idea is ok but ties in with #1 and fusion bolt is pretty strong in comparison to int magics.
  
  Ultimately, there is a lot of tweaking needed to find that sweet spot as it always is with everything. I'm no expert, but this is just what I think about the idea.
• koishi-sempai wrote on 2014-09-20 16:53
  I'm down for firebolt nerfs after the bullshit that the physical skillsets get for free is nerfed.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-09-21 02:40
  Magic Changes:
  
  Buff
  Icebolt - Raise max coef to 0.8
  Fusion Bolt - Raise fusion bolt damage by 75% at r1
  Meteor Strike - Raise min coef to 25, reduce cooldown to 6 min
  
  Ice Shield - Reduce load time to 0 seconds, add new (threatening) elemental attacks to monsters
  Lightning Shield -
  Fire Shield -
  Natural Shield -
  Party Healing - Raise max coef to 0.5, heal party HP by 5 per second while loaded
  
  Meditation - Uncap
  Mana Shield - Uncap
  
  Nerf
  Firebolt - Reduce base max to 80, raise max coef to 0.55
  Blaze - Reduce exp modifier to 3.8, reduce reforge bonuses to 0.08% and 2%
  
  Magic Weapon Mastery - Reduce bolt damage to +75%
• Tropa wrote on 2014-09-21 02:40
  Heat Buster Tweaks(Again!)
  Pressure Points/level will effect it's Stamina c.o and radius
  5 Points: 0.45 Stamina Co-efficient
  8 Points: 0.80 Stamina Co-efficient & +100 Extra Radius
  12 Points: 1.20 Stamina Co-efficient & +200 Extra Radius
  

  
  
  • Elemental Wave Will automatically max this out
    
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-09-21 02:40
  Magic Changes:
  
  Buff
  Icebolt - Raise max coef to 0.8
  Fusion Bolt - Raise fusion bolt damage by 75% at r1
  Meteor Strike - Raise min coef to 25, reduce cooldown to 6 min
  
  Ice Shield - Reduce load time to 0 seconds, add new (threatening) elemental attacks to monsters
  Lightning Shield -
  Fire Shield -
  Natural Shield -
  Party Healing - Raise max coef to 0.5, heal party HP by 5 per second while loaded
  
  Meditation - Uncap
  Mana Shield - Uncap
  
  Nerf
  Firebolt - Reduce base max to 80, raise max coef to 0.55
  Blaze - Reduce exp modifier to 3.8, reduce reforge bonuses to 0.08% and 2%
  
  Magic Weapon Mastery - Reduce bolt damage to +75%
• Tropa wrote on 2014-09-21 02:40
  Heat Buster Tweaks(Again!)
  Pressure Points/level will effect it's Stamina c.o and radius
  5 Points: 0.45 Stamina Co-efficient
  8 Points: 0.80 Stamina Co-efficient & +100 Extra Radius
  12 Points: 1.20 Stamina Co-efficient & +200 Extra Radius
  

  
  
  • Elemental Wave Will automatically max this out
    
• koishi-sempai wrote on 2014-09-21 11:53

  Quote from Kaeporo;1248308:

  
  Nerf
  Firebolt - Reduce base max to 80, raise max coef to 0.55
  Blaze - Reduce exp modifier to 3.8, reduce reforge bonuses to 0.08% and 2%
  
  Magic Weapon Mastery - Reduce bolt damage to +75%

  
  
  You do know that without major nerfs to the entire rest of the game this pretty much makes magic trash tier again right (and I think Blaze should be nerfed even more but Blaze is part of the reason why magic is even relevant in the meta)?
  
  Magic's current state is a product of everything else being entirely too strong and DevCat wanting, after literally years of complaints, to bring it back to par and doing a shitty job of it by increasing bolt damage by 250% as opposed to doing a full rework of the formulas.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-09-21 12:07

  Quote from koishi-sempai;1248360:

  You do know that without major nerfs to the entire rest of the game this pretty much makes magic trash tier again right (and I think Blaze should be nerfed even more but Blaze is part of the reason why magic is even relevant in the meta)?
  
  Magic's current state is a product of everything else being entirely too strong and DevCat wanting, after literally years of complaints, to bring it back to par and doing a shitty job of it by increasing bolt damage by 250% as opposed to doing a full rework of the formulas.

  
  
  I do not understand how this makes magic trash-tier.
  
  The only thing that's seriously getting hit here is Firebolt. Fusion Bolt would see a noticeable damage buff. Even after this nerf you would see unreforged Firebolt pushing out around 18k with a spirit fire wand.
• koishi-sempai wrote on 2014-09-21 12:57

  Quote from Kaeporo;1248364:

  I do not understand how this makes magic trash-tier.

  
  
  Because while magic is versatile, it only has 3 bread and butter skills that can really consistently match up with the craziness of the physical damage meta in both speed and power, Blaze, Hailstorm and Firebolt. You just gutted two of them. Not nerfed, gutted. Meanwhile Lance Combat, Frenzy, and Puppetry continue on their merry way.
  
  The only thing that's seriously getting hit here is Firebolt. Fusion Bolt would see a noticeable damage buff. Even after this nerf you would see unreforged Firebolt pushing out around 18k with a spirit fire wand.[/QUOTE]
  
  Fusion Bolt is bad not because of its damage but because in a game where a skillset that can instantly do 10-15k AOE crit is considered mid tier, a 7 second loading time for an attack that will at best hit 5 seems rather laughable.
  
  Also my calcs give me 16k with a 110 (basically maxed out) damage spirit fire wand, 400 MATK (which requires Meteor Strike Mastery/ALO Asuna Title), and no reforges (reforges affect firebolt less than virtually every other skill because of how the multipliers compound).
  
  ((110 + 80 + [400 x .55]) x 1.15 x 1.15 x 1.75 ) x 6.5 x 2.5
  
  Basically you push an absolute endgame Firebolt user to the level I'm at now (strong but noticeably short of the endgame level for the skill) or even weaker, at the low low cost of a fully capped spirit fire wand, 1500 Int, one of the hardest master titles in the game, a secondary title that will be unattainable in a few months, and a Holy Eagle Mask.[COLOR="Silver"]
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-09-21 13:36

  Quote from koishi-sempai;1248366:

  Because while magic is versatile, it only has 3 bread and butter skills that can really consistently match up with the craziness of the physical damage meta in both speed and power, Blaze, Hailstorm and Firebolt. You just gutted two of them. Not nerfed, gutted. Meanwhile Lance Combat, Frenzy, and Puppetry continue on their merry way.

  
  
  How exactly did I gut Blaze? It's suffering a 5% damage reduction.
  
  ...and certain reforges do have a noticeable influence on Firebolt. Not to mention, you omitted the Hebona Set Effect which would be much more meaningful following the Magic Weapon Mastery nerf. Firebolt would be capped at 20k with 380 magic attack, a decent reforge, all related skills at Rank 1, and the hebona set effect. That's pretty exceptional for a skill that doesn't suffer from accuracy issues and has no need for end-game enchants. It's probably the easiest single-target skill to gear and execute in combat. The major concern stems from sustaining the durability loss (compare to alchemy) and mana usage.
  
  Lance combat is only saved because of the piercing effect and our ability to agro fuck monsters. If anything, it should be nerfed to reducing protection by 3~4% instead of 5% per level. Lance Charge is a pretty average skill due to its awkward cooldown and pathetic area of effect and windmill is hardly exceptional (not to mention, bhafel hunter + huntress hit nearly as hard).
  
  In a game where nearly everything is equally overkill, puppetry only stands out by sucking at single-target and being slow.
  
  Dual-guns, on the other hand, are extremely effective end-game. At least they have fairly terrible party synergy due to them knocking stuff around, causing lots of agro, and leaving you locked into animations. Way of the Gun is extremely brutal, though. It wouldn't hurt to bump the cooldown on that skill to perhaps four minutes at Rank 1.
  
  Fusion Bolt can hit around 60k at present, provided all attacks are critical hits. I'm talking about Fire/Ice. The other combinations aren't totally useless but their usefulness is very limited.
  
  You're also ignoring Meteor Strike and Snap Cast Thunder. Those are both effective skills. You also can't forget about Ice Spear as it's the only skill that can nuke the ecology, which is one of the best methods of obtaining EXP and killing ancients, full-stop.
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-09-21 17:19
  I'd like to see a fix for speed casting, specifically how it increases the mana cost of intermediate magic instead of decreasing it like it should.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-09-22 01:59
  Search function in exploration quest board.