New weapon, skills, items, and tweaks you'd like to see!~

• Tropa wrote on 2015-01-30 07:09

  Quote from Kapra;1263488:

  You can buy a Golden egg for 600 gold. This sounds really imbalanced.

  
  
  Oh really? I totally forgot about that.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-30 07:56

  Quote from Tropa;1263493:

  Oh really? I totally forgot about that.

  
  
  Glewyas sells them, only 5 per in-game day. I do find it rather odd that they're being sold for that cheap though.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-01-30 08:28

  Quote from Darkboy132;1263495:

  Glewyas sells them, only 5 per in-game day. I do find it rather odd that they're being sold for that cheap though.

  
  And commerce partners.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-30 22:14
  -Rage Impact debuff only affects Sword, Axes, and Blunt attacks. Good fucking god, Lances don't need +50% more damage. Though I personally feel that Rage Impact should just be removed.
  -Dual Wield Mastery removed.
  --Dual Focused Red Beams gives me 419~599, I don't need more fucking damage with Dual Wielding.
  --773 Dex, Rank 1 Combat Mastery, Rank 1 Sword Mastery, and a Focused Red Beam (0% Balance) already gives me 75% Balance with a single Beam and 80% Balance with a pair. +15% more balance is unnecessary.
  --187.1% Crit. +14% more, well it explains itself.
  --Why the hell does it have Auto Defense? This isn't a shield.
  --Sword and Blunt Mastery also occur twice when dual wielding. A mastery for Dual Wielding is just a silly bolster to stats.
  -Sword and Blunt Mastery no longer occur twice when dual wielding. +20 sword min damage, +40 sword max, +30% sword balance, and +60 blunt max is too high of a bonus. Now if Axes were to be Dual Wielded, that's +20 axe min damage, +40 axe max damage, +30% axe critical, and +44 armor pierce; effectively +84 more damage.
  -Sword Mastery Balance 15% -> 10%.
  -Blunt Mastery now gives +15 min damage. Bow Mastery has the same max and Lance Mastery comes close but with a min as well.
  -Axe Mastery Critical 15% -> 10%, Armor Pierce 22 -> 10.
  -Crossbow Mastery Critical 15% -> 10%, Armor Pierce 18 -> 10.
  -Lance Mastery no longer gives Critical. Piercing gives so much Protection ignore.
  -Post-Renovation Light/Heavy Armor Mastery (+20 Light Def, +16 Light Magic Def, +40 Heavy Def, +20 Heavy Magic Def) reverted to pre-values. As if tanking wasn't hard enough.
  -Knuckle Mastery Balance is changed to Critical Damage.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-01-31 00:27

  Quote from Darkboy132;1263534:

  -Rage Impact debuff only affects Sword, Axes, and Blunt attacks. Good fucking god, Lances don't need +50% more damage. Though I personally feel that Rage Impact should just be removed.
  -Dual Wield Mastery removed.
  --Dual Focused Red Beams gives me 419~599, I don't need more fucking damage with Dual Wielding.
  --773 Dex, Rank 1 Combat Mastery, Rank 1 Sword Mastery, and a Focused Red Beam (0% Balance) already gives me 75% Balance with a single Beam and 80% Balance with a pair. +15% more balance is unnecessary.
  --187.1% Crit. +14% more, well it explains itself.
  --Why the hell does it have Auto Defense? This isn't a shield.
  --Sword and Blunt Mastery also occur twice when dual wielding. A mastery for Dual Wielding is just a silly bolster to stats.
  -Sword and Blunt Mastery no longer occur twice when dual wielding. +20 sword min damage, +40 sword max, +30% sword balance, and +60 blunt max is too high of a bonus. Now if Axes were to be Dual Wielded, that's +20 axe min damage, +40 axe max damage, +30% axe critical, and +44 armor pierce; effectively +84 more damage.
  -Sword Mastery Balance 15% -> 10%.
  -Blunt Mastery now gives +15 min damage. Bow Mastery has the same max and Lance Mastery comes close but with a min as well.
  -Axe Mastery Critical 15% -> 10%, Armor Pierce 22 -> 10.
  -Crossbow Mastery Critical 15% -> 10%, Armor Pierce 18 -> 10.
  -Lance Mastery no longer gives Critical. Piercing gives so much Protection ignore.
  -Post-Renovation Light/Heavy Armor Mastery (+20 Light Def, +16 Light Magic Def, +40 Heavy Def, +20 Heavy Magic Def) reverted to pre-values. As if tanking wasn't hard enough.
  -Knuckle Mastery Balance is changed to Critical Damage.

  
  
  While your changes might *slightly* reduce power creep they don't really fix anything.
  
  Weapon mastery skills should differentiate one weapon class from another (à la SkyRe). The current bonuses are essentially interchangeable.
  
  Heavy Armor and Light Armor Mastery's new bonuses are acceptable, as they require specific triggers in order to activate. What really needs to get nerfed is the amount of defense afforded by the strength statistic. Keep the new HAM and LAM but nerf STR/DEF to 30/1. I'll expand on this below.
  
  Here are my ideas for changes to weapon mastery skills:
  
  Heavy Armor Mastery:
  Dex Reduction: Unchanged
  Accessory Count: Unchanged
  Defense/Magic Defense: +40, +10
  Protection/Magic Protection: +10, +5%
  Auto-Defense: +10%
  Movement Speed: -20%
  
  Light Armor Mastery:
  Accessory Count: Unchanged
  Additional Defense/Magic Defense: +20, +20
  Additional Protection/Magic Protection: +5%, +5%
  Movement Speed: -5%
  
  Sword Mastery:
  Max Damage +0~20
  Balance +0~15%
  Smash/Bash have a chance of inflicting Bleed damage equal to 1% of the target's current health per second over five seconds.
  Normal attacks deal 0~10% more damage but have -1.5~0.75 seconds less stun.
  
  Blunt Mastery:
  Max Damage +0~30
  Smash/Bash have a chance of bypassing auto-defense/heavy stander entirely.
  Normal attacks stun enemies for an extra +0~0.5 seconds.
  
  Axe Mastery:
  Max Damage +0~20
  Smash/Bash have a chance of dealing an extra 25% damage.
  Normal attacks deal +0~50% extra critical damage. Blocked normal attacks deal no damage.
  
  Dual-Weapon Mastery:
  Attack Speed +0~25%
  Melee Cooldowns: -0.1~0.5 seconds
  Windmill Radius: -100~50
  Normal attack weapon bonuses/penalties are increased by 100%
  
  Bow Mastery:
  Max Damage +0~30
  Max Range +0~100
  
  Crossbow Mastery:
  Max Damage +0~20
  Critical +0~15%
  Aim Speed +25~50%
  
  On another note, my vision of Meditation/Mana Recovery.
  
  Meditation:
  - Reduces mana consumption by 10~50%
  - Completely halts HP/SP recovery. Lost HP/SP are treated as wounded stats until the skill is inactivated.
  
  Mana Recovery:
  - Renamed to Blood Pact.
  - Sacrifices 50% max health to restore 10~50% max mana.
  - Cooldown reduced to 120 seconds.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-31 05:43

  Quote from Kaeporo;1263547:

  Weapon mastery skills should differentiate one weapon class from another (à la SkyRe). The current bonuses are essentially interchangeable.

  
  
  Can't argue with that.
  
  

  Dual-Weapon Mastery:
  Attack Speed +0~25%
  Melee Cooldowns: -0.1~0.5 seconds
  Windmill Radius: -100~50
  Normal attack weapon bonuses/penalties are increased by 100%

  
  
  As long as that doesn't happen to make FH too strong.
  
  

  Mana Recovery:
  - Renamed to Blood Pact.
  - Sacrifices 50% max health to restore 10~50% max mana.
  - Cooldown reduced to 120 seconds.

  
  
  I kind of wanted a Stamina sacrifice, but Health is fine I guess.
  
  
  -Weapon Mastery when dual wielding only works at half the rate for both weapons; two swords just give the same bonus as one sword, while cross dual weapons give half of both weapons. It would make sense, since Dual Wielding splits focus and stuff between the two weapons.
  -Dual Gun Mastery Critical Rate is changed to Attack Speed and increased 6% -> ~25%.
  -Shuriken Mastery now gives ~5%/~10% Movement Speed.
  -All titles that give Movement Speed: 1%/2% -> 5%. Correct me if I'm wrong but 1%/2% is pretty nonexistent? Maybe not for elves, but I don't think it'll help much for humans. I'm probably blind but Rank 1 March Song and 30 Music Buff Effect (15% ~ 20%) doesn't seem that much of a difference for me.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-01-31 10:04

  Quote from Kaeporo;1263547:

  Bow Mastery:
  Max Damage +0~30
  Max Range +0~100
  
  Crossbow Mastery:
  Max Damage +0~20
  Critical +0~15%
  Aim Speed +25~50%

  
  Crossbows may be easier to use but they're not always faster. A skilled archer can do much faster with a bow, especially if they hold the arrows in the same hand as their bow. Then again mabi's archery is more like movie/modern archery, which are both inaccurate (and mabi has a horizontal bow stance. . .). If anyone reading this is interested in historically accurate archery, watch this. I've done archery in real life, well definitely not this kind, but believe me when I say using a bow is HARD.
  
  Instead of Crossbows necessarily being stronger/weaker/faster/slower than bows, I think it should be made easier instead, somehow.
  

  Quote from Kaeporo;1263547:

  Meditation:
  - Reduces mana consumption by 10~50%
  - Completely halts HP/SP recovery. Lost HP/SP are treated as wounded stats until the skill is inactivated.
  

  
  Complete halt sounds too harsh. And I don't really like the idea of decreasing mana consumption rate. Maybe if they increased base mana regeneration by a lot, especially at night, (so there would be less need for meditaiton), then maybe repurposing this skill to reduce mana consumption instead of increasing mana rate would be great.
  
  

  
  
  • Meditation
    
    
    • Meditation no longer increases mana recovery rate when used.
      
    • Ranking Meditation now passively increases mana regeneration rate over time when equipped with a magic weapon (even when the skill is off) or when this skill is on for other weapons, especially for night. (No it doesn't benefit night right now more than day, it's the base rate+meditation rate, and the base rate is just higher at night.) Hopefully the mana regeneration rate doesn't become batshit insane. These changes reinforce the storyline that says mana recovery is higher at night and mana tends to stick to you when you're holding a magic weapon (without reinstating mana evaporation bullshit).
      
    • Meditation now decreases mana use by a certain rate that increases with rank and this only applies when activated.
      
    • Meditation now halts all movement speed increasing effects except March Song. (Things like speed titles stop taking effect when Meditation is on but resume when it is back on.)
      
    • Meditation now reduces movement speed rather than forcing you to walk when you have the wrong equipment on, which would hopefully still be a little faster than walking.
      
    • Stamina recovery rate is now changed to 25% at all ranks, rather than 0%, when this skill is activated. No recovery buffs can increase it past 25%.
      
    
    

  
  
  

  Quote from Kaeporo;1263547:

  
  Mana Recovery:
  - Renamed to Blood Pact.
  - Sacrifices 50% max health to restore 10~50% max mana.
  - Cooldown reduced to 120 seconds.

  
  I completely agree with the Blood Pact change, except I think you should get a higher percentage of mana than the percentage of health used, at least at capped/max rank.
  
  

  Quote from Darkboy132;1263569:

  
  -All titles that give Movement Speed: 1%/2% -> 5%. Correct me if I'm wrong but 1%/2% is pretty nonexistent? Maybe not for elves, but I don't think it'll help much for humans. I'm probably blind but Rank 1 March Song and 30 Music Buff Effect (15% ~ 20%) doesn't seem that much of a difference for me.

  
  I may be wrong but I don't think percent based speed bonuses are multiplicative.
  

  
  
  • Humans are 100%
    
  • Giants are 116%
    
  • Elves are 132%
    

  
  If you get 16% from a S rank Wave Sweeper, I think that makes Elves 132%+16%=148%, not 132%*1.16=153.12%. I haven't tested this though. Would need a giant with a rS wave sweeper and an elf with no speed bonuses. If they're the same speed, it's additive. If the giant is faster, then it's multiplicative. If anyone reading this wants to test, or show me that it was already proven one way or the either, be my guest.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-01-31 11:18

  Quote from Kapra;1263578:

  Instead of Crossbows necessarily being stronger/weaker/faster/slower than bows, I think it should be made easier instead, somehow.

  
  
  Increasing aim speed is the only way I can imagine making crossbows easier to use. This isn't a foreign concept as Crossbows already hold a hidden +25% aim speed bonus over bows when using light archery skills.
  
  

  Quote from Kapra;1263578:

  Complete halt sounds too harsh. And I don't really like the idea of decreasing mana consumption rate. Maybe if they increased base mana regeneration by a lot, especially at night, (so there would be less need for meditaiton), then maybe repurposing this skill to reduce mana consumption instead of increasing mana rate would be great.

  
  
  I think that completely halting (health) is fine as the mana consumption reduction bonus would apply to all skills, including Mana Shield. If nothing else, negation of base stamina and health would probably suffice.
  
  

  Quote from Kapra;1263578:

  I completely agree with the Blood Pact change, except I think you should get a higher percentage of mana than the percentage of health used, at least at capped/max rank.

  
  
  That's a perfect task for the master title, imo.
  
  Master of Meditation
  Mana Usage -5%
  Magic Protection +5%
  
  Master of Blood Pact
  Blood Pact health consumption -20%
  Blood Pact cooldown -30 seconds
  
  ---
  
  New reforge:
  
  Blood Pact Mana Recovery: +1% per level, capped at 10 level (Footwear only)
• ZeroPantz wrote on 2015-01-31 12:46
  May be suggested already but this thread is big.
  
  The ability to also run when meditation is on when equipped with guns. Guns also use mana and are basically magic weapons.
• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-01-31 14:26
  Spears and Pole axes pls, lances are fulgy
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-31 18:56
  Does Atlatl/Throwing Attack need a buff? I never see anyone use them anymore. Meanwhile, Taunes can hit 1k with them.
• Tropa wrote on 2015-01-31 19:12

  Quote from DefinitelyNotTwin;1263586:

  Spears and Pole axes pls, lances are fulgy

  
  
  Clunky, boring and slow, too add.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-01-31 21:56

  Quote from Darkboy132;1263613:

  Does Atlatl/Throwing Attack need a buff? I never see anyone use them anymore. Meanwhile, Taunes can hit 1k with them.

  
  I don't main a giant myself so I can't say from experience, but my friends say the main reason they don't use it is because it requires its own weapon slot. A change I've heard people want is javelins to be consumed from your inventory like crystals and have Atlatls be optionally equippable in the shield slot when using a one handed weapon/two handed sword.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-31 23:34

  Quote from Kapra;1263628:

  A change I've heard people want is javelins to be consumed from your inventory like crystals

  
  
  Dual Gun and Spider Shot does that too, it would be nice if we could auto-equip missiles.
  
  I think Atlatls should be removed as well and Throwing Attack can be used with any weapon. All it does is serve as massive space waster (as you said) and it can only be used for one skill which is pretty silly. Of course that would require rebalancing TA's damage.
  
  
  -Short Javelin space decreased 1x5 -> 1x3.
  -Long Javelin space decreased 1x5 -> 1x4.
  -Javelin max stack increased to 75 for normal and 150 for bundle. I mean what the hell, the Engineerable ones go to 300 for long and 500 for short.
  -Wave Sweeper effects doubled. Pretty negligible cause March Song is equal to a Rank S and isn't as time consuming to get.
  -Elf base speed 132% -> 125%. Honestly I'm a little hesitant of this but god there's way too much high speed buffs.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-02-01 01:49

  Quote from Darkboy132;1263643:

  -Elf base speed 132% -> 125%. Honestly I'm a little hesitant of this but god there's way too much high speed buffs.

  
  I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Humans are too slow, Elves are not too fast. And "too many speed buffs" has never been an issue. You don't nerf long standing features to support newer features.