New weapon, skills, items, and tweaks you'd like to see!~

• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-25 10:03
  Smash:
  

  
  
  • Bleed damage increased 20% -> 30%, duration increased to 10 seconds (total damage 100% -> 300%), and bleed status now forces the enemy to walk. Bleed (and by extension every damage over time effect) can now critical.
    
  • Blunts no longer cause Daze. Instead they cause Auto Defense shatter, temporarily preventing all forms of ping from triggering. Passive Defense's passive damage reduction is unaffected. Lasts 10 seconds.
    
  • Axes no longer cause Defense Reduction. Instead they cause Critical Weakness, making the enemy take 30% critical damage from all axe attacks and 15% from all non-axe attacks. Lasts 10 seconds.
    

  
  
  Weapon Masteries:
  

  
  
  • Sword Mastery Balance is changed to Balance Cap, but lowered to 10%.
    
  • Blunt Mastery now has +15 min damage. Bow Mastery and Lance Mastery have equivalent max to Blunt but also give min.
    
  • Axe Mastery's armor pierce is transferred to Blunt Mastery.
    
  • Axe Mastery's Critical is changed to Effective Critical Cap, but lowered to 10%.
    

  
  
  To be honest, I'm quite confused how Axes of all things have defense piercing mechanisms, but I don't favor blunts or axes so I don't think I have much of a say in the matter. Anyway, isn't that typically a blunt's job and not an axe's? I mean, blunts are commonly used for brute force and breaking through barricades like real life doors (I can't even picture an axe doing it better than a blunt), while in Mabi axes are already proficient with criticals. Given the latter, it should be one or the other, not both.
  
  Other:
  

  
  
  • Celtic Royal Knight Sword no longer gives critical damage set effect. Crit is not a sword's job, it's an axe's job.
    
• Twin wrote on 2015-04-25 12:23
  I'd like to see Blacksmithing, Tailoring, Engineering, Carpentry and Magic Craft have engraving that's optional, not random. Pre-existing items can also be engraved
• Tropa wrote on 2015-04-25 18:10
  Two-Handed Hammers
  - 100% Assault Slash Splash Damage
  
  Two Handed Axes
  - 300% Windmill Damage
  
  Bash
  - Grants additional Smash damage depending on the number of stacks, all stacks are lost after smashing
  1 Stacks: +10%
  2 Stacks: +20%
  3 Stacks: +30%
  4 Stacks: +40%
  5 Stacks: +50%
  - Bash's damage is toned down for one-handed weapons
  First Hit: 300%
  Second Hit: 320%
  Third Hit: 340%
  Forth Hit: 360%
  Fifth Hit: 380%
  
  Final Hit
  - Damage toned down to 200% at rank 1
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-25 18:51

  Quote from Tropa;1272334:

  
  Bash
  - Grants additional Smash damage depending on the number of stacks, all stacks are lost after smashing
  1 Stacks: +10%
  2 Stacks: +20%
  3 Stacks: +30%
  4 Stacks: +40%
  5 Stacks: +50%
  - Bash's damage is toned down for one-handed weapons
  First Hit: 300%
  Second Hit: 320%
  Third Hit: 340%
  Forth Hit: 360%
  Fifth Hit: 380%

  
  
  No. Smash already gets a lot of enhancements. The two should stay separate and unrelated.
  
  Also 380% x 2 is still pretty fucking high.
• Tropa wrote on 2015-04-25 19:11

  Quote from Darkboy132;1272337:

  Also 380% x 2 is still pretty fucking high.

  
  
  What are you talking about?
  
  Dual-wielding would only deal 380% on the 5th hit.
• Slayerj wrote on 2015-04-25 19:23

  Quote from Tropa;1272339:

  What are you talking about?
  
  Dual-wielding would only deal 380% on the 5th hit.

  
  
  He's talking about being able to hit twice with it in one go.
  
  
  
  I can see what they were going for with Bash. However due to it's 0 cooldown and massive stun, it's just too strong. (I still like it >.>; though it does get boring after a while so I switch things up often)
  
  Bash:
  All ranks have a 2.5 second cooldown.
  At rank 1 it'll have a stun of 2.5.
  Rank f-9 is 1.5 second stun
  Rank 8-2 is 2 second stun.
  Rank F dmg: Same as it is now.
  Rank 1 dmg: 300, 310, 330, 350.
  You can only hit twice if you're using dual wielding, and it happens automatically.
  This skill is meant to be used with your normal attack.
  
  Final Hit rank 1 dmg: 150% if dual wielding. 300% if using a 2h. 215% if using a single 1h weapon.
  
  Blunt mastery max dmg increased by 15, making it 45.
  
  Sword, Blunt, and Axe weapon mastery add on to the effect of smashing with these weapons as well as alter the %
  Rank 1 sword: Increases the bleed time by 5 seconds and the dmg by 10%. Smash increased by 10% dmg (510%)
  Rank 1 axe: Increases the defense reduction by 5 and the protection reduction by 4. Smash increased by 5% dmg (505%)
  Rank 1 blunt: Daze time increased by 5 seconds. Smash increased by 25% (525%)
  
  When dual wielding swords or blunts, you do not gain a stacked amount of dmg increase, so no 20% extra on two swords, or 50% extra on 2 blunts.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-25 20:34

  Quote from Tropa;1272339:

  What are you talking about?
  
  Dual-wielding would only deal 380% on the 5th hit.

  
  
  Bash hits twice in one use.
  
  

  Quote from Slayerj;1272341:

  
  I can see what they were going for with Bash. However due to it's 0 cooldown and massive stun, it's just too strong. (I still like it >.>; though it does get boring after a while so I switch things up often)
  
  Bash:
  All ranks have a 2.5 second cooldown.
  At rank 1 it'll have a stun of 2.5.
  Rank f-9 is 1.5 second stun
  Rank 8-2 is 2 second stun.
  Rank F dmg: Same as it is now.
  Rank 1 dmg: 300, 310, 330, 350.
  You can only hit twice if you're using dual wielding, and it happens automatically.
  This skill is meant to be used with your normal attack.

  
  
  Giving Bash a cooldown and limiting its 2x hits might actually cripple it severely, since it's meant to be purely 1:1. The stun is a huge problem though.
  
  It needs to be reverted back to its pre-buff values (300% x 2), only retaining its not canceling for switching targets, with the stun nerfed and inability to pierce defense. It's incredibly fast speed, lack of knockdown, and ability to ignore auto defense's stun is already enough as it is.
  
  

  Blunt mastery max dmg increased by 15, making it 45.

  
  
  Ehh... I'd rather give it Axe's armor pierce instead.
  
  

  Sword, Blunt, and Axe weapon mastery add on to the effect of smashing with these weapons as well as alter the %
  Rank 1 sword: Increases the bleed time by 5 seconds and the dmg by 10%. Smash increased by 10% dmg (510%)
  Rank 1 axe: Increases the defense reduction by 5 and the protection reduction by 4. Smash increased by 5% dmg (505%)
  Rank 1 blunt: Daze time increased by 5 seconds. Smash increased by 25% (525%)

  
  
  Extra damage bonus to Smash is unnecessary. Also I wouldn't keep Daze, since majority of the time it's pointless to use.
• Tropa wrote on 2015-04-25 20:38

  Quote from Darkboy132;1272344:

  Bash hits twice in one use.

  
  
  What? this is bullshit.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-26 00:10
  Smash:
  

  
  
  • Splash now occurs across all ranks instead of starting at rank 5.
    
  • Splash is now a close combat weapon feature only.
    
  • Splash damage increased to 50% for all 1h close combat weapons, and 70% for all 2h close combat weapons. It's extremely weak, compared to Shuriken Charge, Charge, and Assault.
    
  • 1h close combat weapons have their splash range fixed to 250 and 2h close combat weapons have their splash range fixed to 350.
    

  
  
  Other:
  

  
  
  • Weapon's Splash Angle stat is now a 360 degree angle instead of a fixed low angle.
    
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-04-26 00:47

  Quote from Darkboy132;1272362:

  Smash:
  

  
  
  • Splash now occurs across all ranks instead of starting at rank 5.
    
  • Splash damage increased to 50% for all non-close combat weapons, 75% for all 1h close combat weapons, and 100% for all 2h close combat weapons. It's extremely weak, compared to Shuriken Charge, Charge, and Assault.
    
  • Non-close combat weapons no longer have splash range. 1h close combat weapons have their splash range fixed to 250 and 2h close combat weapons have their splash range fixed to 350.
    

  
  
  Other:
  

  
  
  • Weapon's Splash Angle stat is now a 360 degree angle instead of a fixed low angle.
    

  
  
  Why take a unique, if not practically obsolete, feature away from Shuriken Charge and give it to Smash - of all things?
  
  There are a ton of things that they can do to improve melee but I don't think this is a totally effective approach. Smash doesn't need any kind of buff. Instead they need to knock down Bash/Final Hit and buff Wind Guard/Axes/Blunts.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-26 01:06

  Quote from Kaeporo;1272366:

  Why take a unique, if not practically obsolete, feature away from Shuriken Charge and give it to Smash - of all things?
  
  There are a ton of things that they can do to improve melee but I don't think this is a totally effective approach. Smash doesn't need any kind of buff. Instead they need to knock down Bash/Final Hit and buff Wind Guard/Axes/Blunts.

  
  
  Smash splash is too weak to be of any use. Why does Charge and Assault, of all things, have much stronger splash? Magnum Shot arguably has the same problem, especially since archers have one useful area of effect (Mirage is weak, Magic Missile is even weaker).
  
  Smash's debuffs are pathetic, and could be buffed tremendously or changed into something more practical. Overall, Smash does need some sort of change to give it preference over Bash once they're both on equal footing. However, Smash definitely needs less restrictive animation locks and needs to stop interfering with party play.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-04-26 01:33

  Quote from Darkboy132;1272318:

  
  
  • Axe Mastery's armor pierce is transferred to Blunt Mastery.
    
  • Axe Mastery's Critical is changed to Effective Critical Cap, but lowered to 10%.
    

  
  
  To be honest, I'm quite confused how Axes of all things have defense piercing mechanisms, but I don't favor blunts or axes so I don't think I have much of a say in the matter. Anyway, isn't that typically a blunt's job and not an axe's? I mean, blunts are commonly used for brute force and breaking through barricades like real life doors (I can't even picture an axe doing it better than a blunt), while in Mabi axes are already proficient with criticals. Given the latter, it should be one or the other, not both.
  

  
  It confuses me that you think Axes wouldn't be able to break into things. But moreover, I can understand how sledgehammers and stuff would be capable of doing that, as they do in real life, but Blunts in mabi aren't really like that. Think about it, there are almost no hammers in mabi, and the hammers there are are not nearly as effective as an Axe would be in a similar scenario. Most Blunt weapons are like Backpacks and stuff. It would make more sense for Axes to retain piercing and blunts to have critical.
  
  

  Quote from Tropa;1272334:

  Bash
  - Grants additional Smash damage depending on the number of stacks, all stacks are lost after smashing
  1 Stacks: +10%
  2 Stacks: +20%
  3 Stacks: +30%
  4 Stacks: +40%
  5 Stacks: +50%

  
  I actually really like the idea of Bash benefiting Smash. Smash is already really strong as it is so I don't really think it should improve damage, but some improvement would be nice. Then again, switching to a lance would cancel Bash's effects, so maybe it wouldn't be too big of a deal if it increased Smash damage for yourself only.
  
  

  Quote from Darkboy132;1272344:

  It needs to be reverted back to its pre-buff values (300% x 2), only retaining its not canceling for switching targets
  

  
  I'd be fine with that but the first few hits are way too weak back then, even at r1. Damage should never dip below 100% for bash, in my opinion.
  
  
  I personally would be fine with a Bash damage nerf, but it should still be stronger than the initial Bash. I think they should adjust the stun rate so that it lasts even less time for Fast and Fastest weapon, and stays the same for Slow and Very Slow weapons, like they do with normal attacks. The main nerf I would make is, bashing when at 5 bashes should not reset the duration, but bashing at lower stacks should still increase bash amount of course.
  
  

  Quote from Tropa;1272345:

  What? this is bullshit.

  
  Someone never pays attention to KR Test chat is seems~ Bash hits twice if you are using a Fast or Very Fast weapon and normal attack an enemy IMMEDIATELY after Bashing. It is possible with Normal speed weapons as well but that's nearly impossible and takes insane reflexes/timing, supposedly. Suffice it to say, it's not just simply attacking twice, it takes effort, and for that I support the feature.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-26 01:54

  Quote from Kapra;1272369:

  It confuses me that you think Axes wouldn't be able to break into things. But moreover, I can understand how sledgehammers and stuff would be capable of doing that, as they do in real life, but Blunts in mabi aren't really like that. Think about it, there are almost no hammers in mabi, and the hammers there are are not nearly as effective as an Axe would be in a similar scenario. Most Blunt weapons are like Backpacks and stuff. It would make more sense for Axes to retain piercing and blunts to have critical.

  
  
  Couldn't the same be said for swords... maybe? :chin:
  
  

  I'd be fine with that but the first few hits are way too weak back then, even at r1. Damage should never dip below 100% for bash, in my opinion.

  
  
  Fair point.
  

  
  
  • 60% -> 100% <- 380%
    
  • 90% -> 150% <- 400%
    
  • 120% -> 200% <- 420%
    
  • 200% -> 250% <- 440%
    
  • 300% -> 300% <- 460%
    
  • Total: 770% -> 1000% <- 2100%
    

  
  
  Better?
  
  

  Someone never pays attention to KR Test chat is seems~ Bash hits twice if you are using a Fast or Very Fast weapon and normal attack an enemy IMMEDIATELY after Bashing. It is possible with Normal speed weapons as well but that's nearly impossible and takes insane reflexes/timing, supposedly. Suffice it to say, it's not just simply attacking twice, it takes effort, and for that I support the feature.

  
  
  It's also possible with slow, but the timing is even stricter.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-04-26 03:19

  Quote from Darkboy132;1272371:

  Couldn't the same be said for swords... maybe? :chin:

  
  Not really. From the top of my head, the only things that benefit from sword mastery that aren't intended to be used as swords are the Lollipop Swords (though that technically is intended to be used as a weapon), Easter Baskets, and Hand Puppets. Though unlike Blunts, Hand Puppts do not benefit from Dual Weapon Mastery nor Melee Weapon only skills (no clue on easter basket), whereas the novelty equipment in Blunts do. In addition, almost no sword is a novelty equipment but almost all blunts are novelty equipment. I feel like DevCAT should have changed what a blunt weapon meant by now, they've had plenty of chances.
  
  

  Quote from Darkboy132;1272371:

  Fair point.
  

  
  
  • 60% -> 100% <- 380%
    
  • 90% -> 150% <- 400%
    
  • 120% -> 200% <- 420%
    
  • 200% -> 250% <- 440%
    
  • 300% -> 300% <- 460%
    
  • Total: 770% -> 1000% <- 2100%
    

  
  
  Better?

  
  That sounds more reasonable.
• Twin wrote on 2015-04-28 05:59
  Dagger Mastery needs to be a thing