CISPA passed

• Maenad wrote on 2012-04-26 23:59
  And they added stuff to it!
  

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  Quote from this one site:

  Up until this afternoon, the final vote on CISPA was supposed to be tomorrow. Then, abruptly, it was moved up today—and the House voted in favor of its passage with a vote of 248-168. But that's not even the worst part.
  The vote followed the debate on amendments, several of which were passed. Among them was an absolutely terrible change (pdf and embedded below—scroll to amendment #6) to the definition of what the government can do with shared information, put forth by Rep. Quayle. Astonishingly, it was described as limiting the government's power, even though it in fact expands it by adding more items to the list of acceptable purposes for which shared information can be used. Even more astonishingly, it passed with a near-unanimous vote. The CISPA that was just approved by the House is much worse than the CISPA being discussed as recently as this morning.
  Previously, CISPA allowed the government to use information for "cybersecurity" or "national security" purposes. Those purposes have not been limited or removed. Instead, three more valid uses have been added: investigation and prosecution of cybersecurity crime, protection of individuals, and protection of children. Cybersecurity crime is defined as any crime involving network disruption or hacking, plus any violation of the CFAA.
  Basically this means CISPA can no longer be called a cybersecurity bill at all. The government would be able to search information it collects under CISPA for the purposes of investigating American citizens with complete immunity from all privacy protections as long as they can claim someone committed a "cybersecurity crime". Basically it says the 4th Amendment does not apply online, at all. Moreover, the government could do whatever it wants with the data as long as it can claim that someone was in danger of bodily harm, or that children were somehow threatened—again, notwithstanding absolutely any other law that would normally limit the government's power.
  Somehow, incredibly, this was described as limiting CISPA, but it accomplishes the exact opposite. This is very, very bad.
  There were some good amendments adopted too—clarifying some definitions, including the fact that merely violating a TOS does not constitute unauthorized network access—but frankly none of them matter in the light of this change. CISPA is now a completely unsupportable bill that rewrites (and effectively eliminates) all privacy laws for any situation that involves a computer. Far from the defense against malevolent foreign entities that the bill was described as by its authors, it is now an explicit attack on the freedoms of every American.

  
  
  http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insanity-cispa-just-got-way-worse-then-passed-rushed-vote.shtml
• Kollin wrote on 2012-04-27 00:02
  Want to post an actual article and a link to the source?
• Maenad wrote on 2012-04-27 00:03

  Quote from Kollin;849636:

  Want to post an actual article and a link to the source?

  
  
  I figured someone else would first. Hold on.
• Cynic wrote on 2012-04-27 00:04
  https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=CISPA+passed&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest
  
  Take your pick.
• Yoorah wrote on 2012-04-27 00:06
  Useful for those of us who work in cybersecurity. :)
  
  EDIT: Oh and.. it only passed the house. It still has to go through the senate and whatnot.
• Maenad wrote on 2012-04-27 00:07
  Put in article.
• Cynic wrote on 2012-04-27 00:11
  I'm really beginning to think that the government just wants new ways to fuck innocent citizens over under the guise of it being a just cause.
  
  The only question is why the shit they would want to do such a stupid, unjust thing.
• Maenad wrote on 2012-04-27 00:13

  Quote from Cynic;849651:

  I'm really beginning to think that the government just wants new ways to fuck innocent citizens over under the guise of it being a just cause.
  
  The only question is why the shit they would want to do such a stupid, unjust thing.

  
  
  I wonder if it's because they just want to kill anything on the internet that goes against the government or something. I dunno.
• Episkey wrote on 2012-04-27 00:18

  Quote from Yoorah;849644:

  
  EDIT: Oh and.. it only passed the house. It still has to go through the senate and whatnot.

  
  
  Oh phew, only in the House? I nearly had a heart attack. Especially after reading those amendments.
  
  Then again, the vote was a 248-168 :worry:
  
  

  Quote from Yoorah;849644:

  Useful for those of us who work in cybersecurity. :)

  
  
  Why do you say that, Yoorah?
• Maenad wrote on 2012-04-27 00:27

  Quote from Episkey;849661:

  
  
  
  Why do you say that, Yoorah?

  
  
  Because Yoorah pretty much supports anything and everything the goverment does, unless it does something so blatantly stupid that he attributes it to the stereotype of Americans being idiots. Fickle fickle yuri-hating Yuri.
• paladin wrote on 2012-04-27 00:29
  if it passed the house it gonan pass the senate
  generally one part has control of both
  or its 1:1
• Episkey wrote on 2012-04-27 00:31

  Quote from Araria;849672:

  Because Yoorah pretty much supports anything and everything the goverment does, unless it does something so blatantly stupid that he attributes it to the stereotype of Americans being idiots. Fickle fickle yuri-hating Yuri.

  
  
  Thank you Yoorah, I really appreciate your well-though out answer.
• Yoorah wrote on 2012-04-27 00:36

  Quote from Episkey;849661:

  Why do you say that, Yoorah?

  
  
  The short answer is that agencies like the NSA and the CIA do important work. But much of it can be controversial, especially in the court of the (uninformed) public opinion. :P Having to go through the court system all the time worked well in the past, but with things happening so fast on the internet, the government's capabilities are falling behind. This means inefficiency, and ultimately those agencies can't do their job as well as they could have.
• paladin wrote on 2012-04-27 00:38

  Quote from Yoorah;849683:

  Makes it easier to get the job done.

  
  
  What is the job
  We should have a Yoorah v Spartaa debate someday
• Excalibur wrote on 2012-04-27 00:44
  By the power imbued in me, I hereby veto this bill.