8/16 Season 2 Part 3 Update

• Yanm wrote on 2012-06-20 20:35
  SP skills. . .have a cooldown now? Slashing High/F7? I. . .guess I'll leave it up until some gameplay has been done, but it just sounds. . .well, it sounds HORRIBLE for trans and Hero Mode D:. . .
• Episkey wrote on 2012-06-20 20:50

  Quote from Invertex;890655:

  Yep, Clipped Wings in NA. It's fairly worthless right now, and it will continue to be if it doesn't affect bosses.

  
  
  I suppose ... I never found a use for it - but I heard that it works for mini-bosses. So I guess that's useful.
  
  
  But, I personally would rather save the SP and use Regeneration or Reverse Gravity.~
• SakuraFarron wrote on 2012-06-20 20:54
  [video=youtube;LMts_BNFAt0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LMts_BNFAt0[/video]
  Astroboy1928: New skill bar, Staff Evie auto v maunal
  
  

  By pressing the corresponding number key you assigned, magic attacks (now considered as SP skills ) can be casted automatically [that concentration circle is not shown]
  but cast speed is much lower than manual casting.
  
  *Unassigned skills can used like the old way of using SP skills
  *Only SP skills can be assigned to the skill bar
  
  Now you can assign these active skills ( considered as SP skill now ) to the skill bar and use skill by pressing the corresponding number

  
  
  Lann
  [spoiler]
  [video=youtube;x2Udyr1O8rQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2Udyr1O8rQ[/video]
  DK Spear Lann v Blood Lord
  
  [video=youtube;JuGuPw5iMXE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuGuPw5iMXE[/video]
  AFKalmighty's Spear Lann v Giant Polar Bear
  

  in case you were wondering, I was spamming evade and liberate because I was practicing timing the evade invinc frame at the same time my HP is supposed to be taken from liberate.
  the invinc frame for spear is perfectly placed so that anyone who tries to use it with the same timing as slip dash will be guaranteed to get smashed [in other words, the invinc frame kicks in slightly later than slip dash]
  ..and I'm already using slip dash too quickly as it is :(

  
  
  [video=youtube;NCoutrUL2Xc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCoutrUL2Xc[/video]
  AFKalmighty's Sword Lann v Weeping Queen
  

  mind the pots, I was trying to shorten the battle without using trans
  
  the longer range for slip slew was an overdue change that was needed.
  being able to change the direction of TN does make it easier but I still habitually aim my fourth normal hit the direction I intend to use TN :P

  
  [/spoiler]
  
  Fiona
  [spoiler]
  [video=youtube;iViAkxhr518]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iViAkxhr518[/video]
  Astroboy1928: Fiona Counterattack Bonus Attack
  

  After a sucessful counteratack, right click for a bonus smash
  [Space] - [Right Click] - [Right Click(bonus attack)]

  
  
  [video=youtube;b40y0W9fzt8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b40y0W9fzt8[/video]
  Hammer Fiona v Yellow-bellied Ewynsoch
  Fiona's Counter Attacks
  
  [video=youtube;6sM2177c_ts]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6sM2177c_ts[/video]
  Astroboy1928: Fiona Downward Counter Bonus Attack
  

  Fiona Downward Counter Bonus Attack
  After knockback, activate Downward Counter, right click once more for a bonus attack
  After knockback - [Right Click] - [Right Click(bonus attack)]

  
  
  [video=youtube;k4Sl1y1Zh5A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k4Sl1y1Zh5A[/video]
  AFKalmighty's Hammer Fiona v Klaus
  

  the decrease of the recoil from hitting enemies and the delay after smashes are noticeable.
  roll speed increased.
  double counters, while double HS counter seems to have it’s damage buffed using it two time in a row consumes a heck a lot of stam

  
  
  [video=youtube;gKimtASwOLo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gKimtASwOLo[/video]
  Sword Fiona v Elchulus
  
  [video=youtube;_kI1pkWVLVE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_kI1pkWVLVE[/video]
  Sword Fiona v Blood Prince
  [/spoiler]
  
  Evie
  [spoiler]
  [video=youtube;z-Hkz5hkP9I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z-Hkz5hkP9I[/video]
  Astroboy1928: Scythe Evie stack skill & Exploding Wisp
  
  [video=youtube;DbD3g1jj_Uo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DbD3g1jj_Uo[/video]
  Astroboy1928: Scythe Evie Blade Shift Consecutive Attacks
  
  [video=youtube;Jqs880fsgvw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Jqs880fsgvw[/video]
  AFKalmighty's Scythe Evie v Gatekeeper of the Catacombs
  

  wisp sacrifice’s damage doesn’t seem to be in it’s intended state
  drains bugging like crazy with the multi drain change
  Blink Moonlight must have been buffed. I can swear that my 9k physical damage didn’t do that much damage
  The DoT on DL deals damage for a limited amount of time

  
  [/spoiler]
  
  Kai
  [spoiler]
  [video=youtube;TqzD6MgkiEk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TqzD6MgkiEk[/video]
  Astroboy1928: Kai New Skill Activation
  
  

  The old active skill bar was gone where you press “Q” key and choose to use 5 active skills
  
  Now you can assign these active skills ( considered as SP skill now ) to the skill bar and use skill by pressing the corresponding number, unassigned skills can used like the old way of using SP skills
  
  *Only SP skills can be assigned to the skill bar
  *Your SP value are now displayed next to SP bar and the SP requirement of every SP skills are shown in Skill Table
  
  Wire evasion CD has increased from 3 seconds to 10 seconds

  
  [/spoiler]
• Oizen wrote on 2012-06-20 21:40

  Quote from Deitylight;890137:

  I think some people should play evies in raids and see what happens if they get touched once.

  
  
  Doesnt this apply to ever class though?
  
  Raid bosses eat the hp of anyone who doesnt have 9k defense. Maybe its just the fact that popping into mana amber is a lot easier to do then dodge, which makes evies look like they can take more hits.
  
  Mana amber doesnt really require that much timing :|
  while dodging require you to chose a direction and at almost a split second too.
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-06-20 21:59

  Quote from Atrus;890628:

  Sure, Evie can wear heavy or plate armor as well and get 7-8k defense, but at the expense of losing around half her intelligence stat effectively gimping her damage pretty well except on all but the most well geared Evies (eg. +12 and up weapons with Divine Punishment and such).

  
  The problem is just how much damage is lost during this. With level 60 items, I calculated it at over 2.5K with an additional loss of balance, attack speed, and the power of various skills such as corona, mana shields, etc. Mana shields always have zero defense and defense only starts working after they're broken. I believe if you get critted with mana shields up, it still treats it like a zero defense hit meaning someone with 8K+ defense could easily take thousands of damage from what would otherwise be an insignificant hit.
  
  Basically, it's a complete waste of time and even if someone technically ends up with more survivability, they'll do so little damage for the time they spend compared to what they could do by not wearing it that it's not worth it.
• Lan wrote on 2012-06-20 22:01
  Doesn't seem like Lann's were revamped much at all ._.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-06-20 22:20

  Quote from Lan;890732:

  Doesn't seem like Lann's were revamped much at all ._.

  
  
  As long as swords lann gets a huge damage boost Im happy.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-06-20 22:20

  Quote from Lan;890732:

  Doesn't seem like Lann's were revamped much at all ._.

  
  
  As long as swords lann gets a huge damage boost Im happy.
• Invertex wrote on 2012-06-20 22:25
  Really all Sword Lann needs is a way to avoid charge type moves (given to him via increased Slip Dash range) and more damage (given to him via percentile adjustments). He should do fine now.
  
  Curious about the specific percentile adjustments though, it'll be interesting to compare them.
  
  And double counter looks so silly, but so fun.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2012-06-20 22:25
  Does Spear Lann's evasion still use 30 stamina?
• Oizen wrote on 2012-06-20 23:29

  Quote from Invertex;890748:

  Really all Sword Lann needs is a way to avoid charge type moves (given to him via increased Slip Dash range) and more damage (given to him via percentile adjustments). He should do fine now.
  
  Curious about the specific percentile adjustments though, it'll be interesting to compare them.
  
  And double counter looks so silly, but so fun.

  
  
  I dont understand why spear damage %'s do more than swords.
  
  
  Imo swords should be stronger, but they would never be able to keep up with the sheer dps of spin2win moves spear lann has.
  
  Swords would hit harder, but a lot less rapidly.
• foreignreign wrote on 2012-06-20 23:58

  Quote from Invertex;890655:

  Yep, Clipped Wings in NA. It's fairly worthless right now, and it will continue to be if it doesn't affect bosses.

  
  
  Clipped Wings is awesome for hero boat 6 missions when you have to fight something like Jagursh/Prompush/Kanjel in a run if you're doing Larken. Hell, if you have multiple Evies, you can chain Clipped Wings for a ridiculous amount of time, making a boss almost essentially immobile. Works against Colru minis too, which could be helpful if an Evie is soloing.
  
  Plus, with the addition of hero boat 8, Turtle Leg could save lives if used against Sly Hound/Knights.
  
  It's definitely not worthless, it's just a bit too situational, and kinda loses its uses as people become overgeared.
  
  
  

  Quote from OizenX;890786:

  I dont understand why spear damage %'s do more than swords.
  
  
  Imo swords should be stronger, but they would never be able to keep up with the sheer dps of spin2win moves spear lann has.
  
  Swords would hit harder, but a lot less rapidly.

  
  
  Because spears sacrifice their survivability to do that damage? Spin2win isn't even really all that strong compared to regular sword Lann play. Moonsplitter is where the damage is really at, but Moonsplitter also leaves a Lann ridiculously vulnerable.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-06-21 00:02

  Quote from foreignreign;890800:

  Clipped Wings is awesome for hero boat 6 missions when you have to fight something like Jagursh/Prompush/Kanjel in a run if you're doing Larken. Hell, if you have multiple Evies, you can chain Clipped Wings for a ridiculous amount of time, making a boss almost essentially immobile. Works against Colru minis too, which could be helpful if an Evie is soloing.
  
  Plus, with the addition of hero boat 8, Turtle Leg could save lives if used against Sly Hound/Knights.
  
  It's definitely not worthless, it's just a bit too situational, and kinda loses its uses as people become overgeared.

  
  You're forgetting that raids are the only thing that matter in this.
  
  
  Everything besides raids do not exist.
• foreignreign wrote on 2012-06-21 00:04

  Quote from OizenX;890804:

  You're forgetting that raids are the only thing that matter in this.
  
  
  Everything besides raids do not exist.

  
  
  Not true.
  
  No more bots (or at the very least, hardly any).
  
  People should be doing hero mode now if they want money. And Boat 8 is going to be the only way to get Fervor which is a direct upgrade to Force, so every one worth their weight should be doing Boat 8 hero when it comes.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-06-21 00:06

  Quote from foreignreign;890806:

  Not true.
  
  No more bots (or at the very least, hardly any).
  
  People should be doing hero mode now if they want money. And Boat 8 is going to be the only way to get Fervor which is a direct upgrade to Force, so every one worth their weight should be doing Boat 8 hero when it comes.

  
  
  WAAAT
  
  
  No everything besides raids dont exist when it comes to balancing, at least thats what I keep seeing here.
  
  Evie is incredibly overpowered in dungeons, but its fine because they dont exist.