Sexual Revolution Pattern

• Cannibal wrote on 2010-07-22 15:39

  Quote from Zid;101192:

  So how long do you think it will be before the removal of the age of sexual consent laws? If it will happen.
  
  Btw, the idea of homosexual incestuous pedophile is a new one to me. O.o

  
  
  I think it could take some time. People actually have to speak out for things like this to happen, and most people are afraid.
  Because you never know when someone will cowboy up and speak out, you can't put an exact time on it, but I can say that it definitely WILL happen.
  
  I'm confused as to how homosexual incestuous pedophiles is a new one to you. Have you ever watched things like Law and Order: SVU? Many, many of the cases shown on that are fathers touching their little boys. It happens a lot in real life, as well, and not only with boys.
• Zid wrote on 2010-07-22 15:49

  Quote from Sin;101196:

  I'm confused as to how homosexual incestuous pedophiles is a new one to you. Have you ever watched things like Law and Order: SVU? Many, many of the cases shown on that are fathers touching their little boys. It happens a lot in real life, as well, and not only with boys.

  
  
  I'm not really interested in watching crime shows.
  
  To be honest, I only heard about it once another time, but that was just a story I read.
  
  I want to point out that, you mentioned a crime show, which means that it's considered to be a crime. As far as I know, what I listed above were back, then, taboos mostly, or had laws against them. However, acting on pedophilia (like a teacher having sex with a student not passed the age of consent) is considered a crime at the moment. How do you propose the general mindset be swayed to accept it as not a crime?
• Cannibal wrote on 2010-07-22 15:53

  Quote from Zid;101213:

  I'm not really interested in watching crime shows.
  
  To be honest, I only heard about it once another time, but that was just a story I read.
  
  I want to point out that, you mentioned a crime show, which means that it's considered to be a crime. As far as I know, what I listed above were back, then, taboos mostly, or had laws against them. However, acting on pedophilia (like a teacher having sex with a student not passed the age of consent) is considered a crime at the moment. How do you propose the general mindset be swayed to accept it as not a crime?

  
  
  Yes, I mentioned a crime show, where all of the pedophilia committed is against the younger child's will. My statement was about consensual pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia. If a child themselves can decide if they would like to have sexual relations with the older person, there should be no punishment. The child wants it as the adult does, just as if the child would if it was someone their own age. There are younger people who are just as attracted to pedophiles as pedophiles are to them.
• Zid wrote on 2010-07-22 15:59

  Quote from Sin;101220:

  Yes, I mentioned a crime show, where all of the pedophilia committed is against the younger child's will. My statement was about consensual pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia. If a child themselves can decide if they would like to have sexual relations with the older person, there should be no punishment. The child wants it as the adult does, just as if the child would if it was someone their own age. There are younger people who are just as attracted to pedophiles as pedophiles are to them.

  
  
  As long as consent is provided?
  
  The people who support the law that adult sex with a minor argue that because it's a minor, the minor's mind is not fully developed or matured, based on the biological-psychological growth of their mental capabilities. Therefore, they believed the consent from this minor is flawed/not developed and thus invalid.
  
  What would persuade them to change their mind on this law?
• IceBlade wrote on 2010-07-22 16:02

  Quote from Finnea;101159:

  Pedophilia is the attraction to children, think of how the words work before using the modernized dictionary definition I do not approve of.

  
  
  Sorry, I thought you meant for it to include sex with a minor. And my response wasn't aimed as an attack on you. I was more showing why the law says it's illegal.
  
  

  Quote from Zid;101213:

  I'm not really interested in watching crime shows.
  
  To be honest, I only heard about it once another time, but that was just a story I read.
  
  I want to point out that, you mentioned a crime show, which means that it's considered to be a crime. As far as I know, what I listed above were back, then, taboos mostly, or had laws against them. However, acting on pedophilia (like a teacher having sex with a student not passed the age of consent) is considered a crime at the moment. How do you propose the general mindset be swayed to accept it as not a crime?

  
  
  Well it's kind of already happened in part. The age of consent use to be 18 and it's been lowered to 16 in most developed countries. A prime example of how the mindset is changing was our discussion of at which age a person should have sex. There's also countries with much lower ages of consent. Some being as low as 12. You can read more about that here.
• puppypaint wrote on 2010-07-22 16:02
  I'm pretty sure it's illegal for underage people to watch porn. Which is not cool. They do it all the time anyway. This should be fixed.
  
  And there should be no age of consent imo. People should be able to decide what to do with their own bodies.
• Cannibal wrote on 2010-07-22 16:07

  Quote from Zid;101226:

  As long as consent is provided?
  
  The people who support the law that adult sex with a minor argue that because it's a minor, the minor's mind is not fully developed or matured, based on the biological-psychological growth of their mental capabilities. Therefore, they believed the consent from this minor is flawed/not developed and thus invalid.
  
  What would persuade them to change their mind on this law?

  
  
  Then should anyone who's mind is not fully developed be excluded from sexual activities? Should they not be able to make decisions for themselves? Like I said before, if you, as a minor, have the power to decide to have sex with someone your own age, you should have the power to have sex with a pedophile, and that pedophile should have the power to have sex with you, as long as its consensual. Maybe my way of thinking isn't understandable to other people, but I can't explain it any further than I already have. Maybe if minors spoke out about this, something would be done. No, not right away, but something small like that could really make an impact.
  
  
  

  Quote from puppypaint;101230:

  I'm pretty sure it's illegal for underage people to watch porn. Which is not cool. They do it all the time anyway. This should be fixed.

  
  This, 100%. Believe it or not, a lot of minors have seen their first porno, or something of the sort, by the time they're like, 12. If minors want to watch porn, let them. If it "corrupts" them, there was a warning there for the contents.
  
  

  And there should be no age of consent imo. People should be able to decide what to do with their own bodies.

  
  My argument, exactly.
• Apple wrote on 2010-07-22 16:08
  Cybering..
  as awkward as it sounds..
• Virtue wrote on 2010-07-22 16:09

  Quote from Apple;101238:

  Cybering..
  as awkward as it sounds..

  Cybering is so 90's.
• Spartaaaaa wrote on 2010-07-22 16:12
  I think the next absurd thing that these "sex revolution" lunatics will push for next will be marriage between rocks and humans. Or perhaps it will be between windows and lemurs. Or quite possibly they'll campaign for marriage between potatoes and methane gas. The possibilities are endless...
• Zid wrote on 2010-07-22 16:14

  Quote from Sin;101235:

  Then should anyone who's mind is not fully developed be excluded from sexual activities? Should they not be able to make decisions for themselves? Like I said before, if you, as a minor, have the power to decide to have sex with someone your own age, you should have the power to have sex with a pedophile, and that pedophile should have the power to have sex with you, as long as its consensual. Maybe my way of thinking isn't understandable to other people, but I can't explain it any further than I already have. Maybe if minors spoke out about this, something would be done. No, not right away, but something small like that could really make an impact.
  
  My argument, exactly.

  
  
  I see. Fair enough.
  
  

  Quote from IceBlade;101229:

  Well it's kind of already happened in part. The age of consent use to be 18 and it's been lowered to 16 in most developed countries. A prime example of how the mindset is changing was our discussion of at which age a person should have sex. There's also countries with much lower ages of consent. Some being as low as 12. You can read more about that here.

  
  
  That's pretty interesting. 12-16 hit a lot of spots.
  
  I found it more interesting that there are a lot of countries in that list that made male-male sex illegal, but female-female sex perfectly legal. And no countries that work vice versa of legal male-male and illegal female-female.
• Sleeperdial wrote on 2010-07-22 16:22
  Given how many fat people just sit and watch porn all day the next big thing will probably be masturbation.
  Don't get me wrong, it happens EVERYWHERE, but it just isn't accepted yet.
• Cannibal wrote on 2010-07-22 16:23
  Masturbation isn't accepted? LOL, Since when...?
• Virtue wrote on 2010-07-22 16:25

  Quote from Sleeperdial;101261:

  Given how many fat people just sit and watch porn all day the next big thing will probably be masturbation.
  Don't get me wrong, it happens EVERYWHERE, but it just isn't accepted yet.

  Maybe it'd be the next big thing if we were in the year 1950.
  
  It's perfectly accepted nowadays.
• Chiri wrote on 2010-07-22 16:32
  I'm skeptical on interspecies being accepted after homosexuality. Doing another human is pretty different from escapades with dolphins and cows.
  
  Following close on homosexual acceptance would be bisexual acceptance.
  Next would probably be transsexual acceptance.
  Then polyamory.
  And then probably more alternative 'weird' sex like scat/BDSM as it becomes more exposed/mainstream.