Mabinogi 2 Screens?

• Azareel wrote on 2012-08-26 22:47

  Quote from Elleanior;937775:

  Because breast physics are the highlight of the 3D graphics and physics engine examples.
  
  If it can handle those right, it can probably handle everything else right.

  
  
  I still don't see it handling clothing right, though. ;_;
  
  dat jello cloth
• pkMaster wrote on 2012-08-26 23:43
  That's not the only thing that feels kinda off. That thigh jiggle is mildy disturbing.
  :barf:
• Elleanior wrote on 2012-08-26 23:45

  Quote from Azareel;942091:

  I still don't see it handling clothing right, though. ;_;
  
  dat jello cloth

  
  Well, I said "probably" afterall... :gloom3:
  
  ...Cloth is probably always going to be the hardest... even harder than breasts... :mad:
• Azareel wrote on 2012-08-27 00:04

  Quote from Elleanior;942108:

  Well, I said "probably" afterall... :gloom3:
  
  ...Cloth is probably always going to be the hardest... even harder than breasts... :mad:

  
  
  Can't forget hair. :c
  
  Then again, hair and cloth both behave more or less the same. The only real difference is that hair has separate strands, where cloth is normally a sheet.
• Mystickskye wrote on 2012-08-27 00:09
  No one really animates individual hairs. Generally it's made up of a couple of large chunks that behave like cloth or whatever.
• Azareel wrote on 2012-08-27 01:04

  Quote from Mystickskye;942121:

  No one really animates individual hairs. Generally it's made up of a couple of large chunks that behave like cloth or whatever.

  
  
  That's what I meant. I said strand, because, well, "clumps" or "chunks" of hair sounds weird.
• Elleanior wrote on 2012-08-27 01:33

  Quote from Azareel;942133:

  That's what I meant. I said strand, because, well, "clumps" or "chunks" of hair sounds weird.

  
  I suppose that (considering how it's done,) hair could be considered "sheets" too.
• Keth wrote on 2012-09-08 13:34
  I don't think I am going to like Mabi2. I liked everything in Mabinogi and here they say it's going to have completely different game-play characteristics. Mabinogi's only flaw was that people get tempted to play it when I describe everything you can do, but when they enter they are like "UGH, POLYGONS & DEFORMED CARTOON PEOPLE! D:<" and leave immediately. As much as I like anime graphics the game would've been a greater success in US+EU if it was more realistic.
• NomadTrooper wrote on 2012-09-08 13:39

  Quote from Keth;948447:

  I don't think I am going to like Mabi2. I liked everything in Mabinogi and here they say it's going to have completely different game-play characteristics. Mabinogi's only flaw was that people get tempted to play it when I describe everything you can do, but when they enter they are like "UGH, POLYGONS & DEFORMED CARTOON PEOPLE! D:<" and leave immediately. As much as I like anime graphics the game would've been a greater success in US+EU if it was more realistic.

  
  And used WoW combat.
• Azareel wrote on 2012-09-08 13:43

  Quote from NomadTrooper;948448:

  And used WoW combat.

  
  
  I wouldn't touch Mabi if it did. [S]Why do so many companies think that style of combat is fun? It only suits a small handful of games...[/S]
  
  

  Quote from Keth;948447:

  I don't think I am going to like Mabi2. I liked everything in Mabinogi and here they say it's going to have completely different game-play characteristics. Mabinogi's only flaw was that people get tempted to play it when I describe everything you can do, but when they enter they are like "UGH, [S]POLYGONS[/S] PIXELS & DEFORMED CARTOON PEOPLE! D:<" and leave immediately. As much as I like [S]anime[/S] cartoonish graphics the game would've been a greater success in US+EU if it was more realistic.

  
  
  MapleStory. So, no. You'd be wrong.
  
  The main reason people don't stay with Mabi, I'd think, is all the lag issues on top of the rather slow game progression compared to other MMOs, making those exciting 'accomplishment' moments less recognizable. This, in turn, keeps the game from maintaining a player's attention.
  
  It's pretty uncommon that graphics and visuals are enough to hook players, from what I've seen. Although, they certainly help in getting potential players' attention.
  
  From my observations, a game's aspects influence the experience as the following:
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]Visuals: Primarily attracts new players and helps with immersion. Only slightly seems to keep people playing, mostly for the immersive factor.
  (Appropriate) Audio: Tremendously assists with immersion. Can most certainly help in keeping players playing, but won't keep them for long enough to be the only focus of the company. Nevertheless, it's an extremely important aspect that most games (especially MMOs) seem to put barely any effort into.
  UI: This can break, but not necessarily make a game. A properly designed UI will minimize immersion interruption.
  Story: Depending on the style of game, story can be of huge importance, or could essentially not exist. In either case, appropriate attention should be given to the game's lore. Greatly helps in keeping players, if it's done appropriately.
  Environment: In most games, players should be able to feel as though they made some kind of change to their environment, even if it's minimal. If this flows nicely with the rest of the aspects, it helps keep players invested in the game (they feel productive/destructive).
  Flow: Tremendously important to improving immersion (and thus, maintain players). This can make or break a game. While 'no loading screens' isn't a requirement, it would certainly be nice. What I mean by this, though, is that the player transition from one task to another should feel natural and realistic (not necessarily perfectly smooth). The game should progress (non-story wise) in a way that makes some kind of sense.[/SPOILER]
  
  There are a few others, but those are the most prominent.
• Keth wrote on 2012-09-08 13:50
  I was going to start a list about what I like in Mabi, but it became too long so I deleted it. WoW combat sucks period. Hate me or whatever, I wont go back on my word. In Mabinogi one has to observe their opponent & know how to counter them. It's not pure luck, because the monster's actions while charging the skill give it away. It wasn't perfect, but I'd like something similar in Mabi2.
• Azareel wrote on 2012-09-08 14:10

  Quote from Keth;948450:

  I was going to start a list about what I like in Mabi, but it became too long so I deleted it. WoW combat sucks period. Hate me or whatever, I wont go back on my word. In Mabinogi one has to observe their opponent & know how to counter them. It's not pure luck, because the monster's actions while charging the skill give it away. It wasn't perfect, but I'd like something similar in Mabi2.

  
  
  My guess is they'll use combat similar to Vindictus. Although, maybe less hack-and-slash (at least, I hope so).
• Elleanior wrote on 2012-09-08 15:30

  Quote from Keth;948450:

  I was going to start a list about what I like in Mabi, but it became too long so I deleted it. WoW combat sucks period. Hate me or whatever, I wont go back on my word. In Mabinogi one has to observe their opponent & know how to counter them. It's not pure luck, because the monster's actions while charging the skill give it away. It wasn't perfect, but I'd like something similar in Mabi2.

  
  I'm not gonna hate you. D: You stated your reason for hating it! (I only hate people who hate it and don't state a reason, such as "WoW Sucks. It just does.")
  
  

  Quote from Azareel;948453:

  My guess is they'll use combat similar to Vindictus. Although, maybe less hack-and-slash (at least, I hope so).

  
  I was assuming that it'd be more like Dragon Nest's combat... (DN combat = WoW + Vindictus)
  
  If WoW and Mabinogi had Vindictus' combat, I would play them much more often...