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Marimaster wrote on 2012-08-22 18:01
[video=youtube;86-BlPfF0wE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86-BlPfF0wE&feature=g-vrec[/video]
T.T
IT'S TOO MUCH!
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Elleanior wrote on 2012-08-24 19:11
I'm totally switcing my Fiona back to sword when Ignition's out! :!!:
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paladin wrote on 2012-08-24 22:35
Sword lann now has a fiona to fight over the spot of
doing damage while in your face and not taking damage spot
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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-08-24 22:39
Really doubt it. Sword Lann got a pretty big buff and was already rather good in the first place.
But she might be able to challenge hammers and definitely Karoks.
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Oizen wrote on 2012-08-24 22:43
Quote from paladin;940773:
Sword lann now has a fiona to fight over the spot of
doing damage while in your face and not taking damage spot
Sword Lann still looks faster. Maybe he just pulls more attacks out due to holding 2 swords. idk
Quote from RebeccaBlack;940775:
Really doubt it. Sword Lann got a pretty big buff and was already rather good in the first place.
But she might be able to challenge hammers and definitely Karoks.
I hope they made Sword lann more of a hard hitter.
He really doesnt do DPS compared to spears.
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Excalibur wrote on 2012-08-24 22:59
I love dem double counter attack.
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Invertex wrote on 2012-08-24 23:03
Nobody's DPS compares to Spear Lann. Practically, the closest anyone can get is about 5-10% below an equivlant Spear Lann. Trying to have anything close to Spear Lann's DPS while still having something as usable as Slip Dash is broken. It's why Kai is getting nerfed.
And every party spot is the "doing damage" spot except for a few exceptions (a Fiona in Lionotus for luring, Karok in Siglint for clashes, etc.). So yeah.
Regardless, post ignition Sword Fiona is actually viable. I think 0 Attack Speed Sword is about the same as 40 speed currently. I'll see how my damage on Keaghen fairs after NA finally gets ignition, but it's a very necessary buff considering currently a Hammer with ~30 speed is already about as fast as a Sword. There's a cap on how much attack speed can affect normals after all.
Most Fiona ignition buffs are for Small Shield and Sword. Fun fact is the double counter isn't efficient on Elchulus, a Fiona should PG Amaranth.
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Dracius wrote on 2012-08-25 01:37
http://vindictushq.com/forums/topic/new-damage-percentile-tables
According to this, all Lann's Sword Smashes (Besides Gust Sting cause it sucks) are roughly twice the damage of the Gliding Fury we have now.
Unless I'm reading this thing completely wrong, which is highly likely.
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Oizen wrote on 2012-08-25 02:57
Quote from Dracius;940936:
http://vindictushq.com/forums/topic/new-damage-percentile-tables
According to this, all Lann's Sword Smashes (Besides Gust Sting cause it sucks) are roughly twice the damage of the Gliding Fury we have now.
Unless I'm reading this thing completely wrong, which is highly likely.
Gust sting will never be worth it.
lol
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foreignreign wrote on 2012-08-25 03:54
The fact that they didn't buff Gliding/Lightning damage has always bothered me.
Lightning desperately needs a damage buff. Considering you might as well just Moonsplitter spam in Trans and in sandbag scenarios, and sword Lanns don't seem to like even getting a decent amount of crit to regularly Lightning off with...
Kinda meh to me, really. And it's still weaker than a Glide which is dumb.
EDIT: I guess they did buff Glide/Lightning damage (forgot about the across-the-board attack-specific skill buff), but it's still a lower increase than everything else Lann got that got an increase.
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Oizen wrote on 2012-08-25 04:33
Quote from foreignreign;941051:
The fact that they didn't buff Gliding/Lightning damage has always bothered me.
Lightning desperately needs a damage buff. Considering you might as well just Moonsplitter spam in Trans and in sandbag scenarios, and sword Lanns don't seem to like even getting a decent amount of crit to regularly Lightning off with...
Kinda meh to me, really. And it's still weaker than a Glide which is dumb.
EDIT: I guess they did buff Glide/Lightning damage (forgot about the across-the-board attack-specific skill buff), but it's still a lower increase than everything else Lann got that got an increase.
Gliding Fury already put out a good deal of damage, in fact pre S2, if you weren't using Gliding fury, you weren't damaging the boss at all.
If anything, I'd want them to throw more crit Sword Lanns way.
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Hobo wrote on 2012-08-25 04:41
Dev Cat doesn't think that way sadly. Our weapons should have 10 extra crit!
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Kiyori wrote on 2012-08-25 04:45
So I should use my tear from Elchulus on a small shield is what you're saying. I really love the 2x heavy stander counter on that video.
I have tried small shield on Elchulus but it wasn't very effective since the small shield knocks me out of range and 1x heavy stander isn't enough to compensate for the loss of DPS I was suffering because of the range issue, 2x would be.
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Invertex wrote on 2012-08-25 04:58
Quote from Kiyori;941077:
So I should use my tear from Elchulus on a small shield is what you're saying. I really love the 2x heavy stander counter on that video.
I have tried small shield on Elchulus but it wasn't very effective since the small shield knocks me out of range and 1x heavy stander isn't enough to compensate for the loss of DPS I was suffering because of the range issue, 2x would be.
Don't do it, Godwing Targe has comparable stats to the Altar Shield. And it costs like 70m versus 400m.
Anyways, I have much more success with a Small Shield since PG -> Butterfly is amazing for damage output. In general Small Shield HS is more effective as Elchulus moves insanely far with his smashes, so you actually stick to him pretty well due to it. HS counter isn't as effective to stick onto him as just running out of the animation is just as fast.
It just takes a bit of positioning, that's all.
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TheBoulder wrote on 2012-08-25 05:06
Quote from Invertex;940796:
Regardless, post ignition Sword Fiona is actually viable. I think 0 Attack Speed Sword is about the same as 40 speed currently. I'll see how my damage on Keaghen fairs after NA finally gets ignition, but it's a very necessary buff considering currently a Hammer with ~30 speed is already about as fast as a Sword. There's a cap on how much attack speed can affect normals after all.
Most Fiona ignition buffs are for Small Shield and Sword. Fun fact is the double counter isn't efficient on Elchulus, a Fiona should PG Amaranth.
I really hope that bit about att speed is true, because my sword Fio is sitting on about 46 right now lol. Dat speed +drool
Anyway, I suppose double counter might have some use at Elchulus? In terms of damage no, not really, but it's a good tool for breakoff.