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Tryke wrote on 2013-01-31 14:08
Anything that abuses a glitch is questionable. The argument I could make for HSC is that you are simply using your built-in abilities in an optimal order. Vella's flying across rooms with sprint-jumps can also be seen as using abilities. Kai using emote macros as a part of glitch-firing is just truly unintentional gameplay. Hard to say where optimization ends and exploiting begins sometimes though.
On the subject of gear, that is a part of the game. +15 whatever may make solos too quick/easy, but complaining about being overgeared is like telling someone to use level appropriate weapons when doing AP dailies. You've progressed past that already.
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JinNJuice wrote on 2013-01-31 21:31
If glitched attacks are such a hassle, balance wise, DevCat should just recreate those said glitches into "gimmicks" and rebalance it. CANNOT BE THAT HARD.
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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2013-01-31 23:42
Quote from Tryke;1023149:
The argument I could make for HSC is that you are simply using your built-in abilities in an optimal order.
That's not really much of an argument, though, because glitchfiring also uses exclusively built-in abilities. The emote is an ability!
Quote from JinNJuice;1023369:
If glitched attacks are such a hassle, balance wise, DevCat should just recreate those said glitches into "gimmicks" and rebalance it. CANNOT BE THAT HARD.
There are a lot of ways they could stop glitchfiring, but don't. I'm not sure why. They seem to just not care.
Quote from Tryke;1023149:
On the subject of gear, that is a part of the game. +15 whatever may make solos too quick/easy, but complaining about being overgeared is like telling someone to use level appropriate weapons when doing AP dailies. You've progressed past that already.
I'm fine with any gear, but the problem I have with that argument is it's nearly impossible to get certain things without spending excessive amounts of money. Simply put, virtually no one is
really going to be able to get more than about a +12 80 unless they spend a ridiculous amount of money or lucked out and got a +15 coupon with the money they did spend. Some people are merchants and so on, but that only works for so many billions because there are only so many opportunities per day. The opportunities are not unlimited.
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Oizen wrote on 2013-02-01 00:11
You're normally not supposed to be spamming emotesi n a battle, therefore I see it as abuse.
Same with vella, theres no logical reason for her to be flung while jumping during an attack, its abusing a glitch.
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Invertex wrote on 2013-02-02 16:45
Well, I'll throw in my two cents on this. Well not really, but still.
There's another place where a lot of arguements pop up about glitchless runs and such, and that's with speedruns. There's always the pro-glitch speedrun and the anti-glitch speedrun camps and really neither are correct. That's just how it is, some people feel it's not in the spirit of the game to do glitches, some feel that as long as it's in the game it's fair game.
Regardless, this isn't part of S2E2 but JP is getting it's S2 update, with a few interesting things.
http://heroes.nexon.co.jp/campaign/season2_update_avatar.aspx?nxid=15
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]Panda Karok! And yukatas. And maybe new inner? I don't know my inners. Also new hairs, last section header shows them.
[Image: http://i.imgur.com/oVCdT4X.jpg]
[Image: http://i.imgur.com/I31AWKq.jpg]
[Image: http://i.imgur.com/2EOUUjR.jpg]
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Also I think this is tied to some event or something, but yeah.
[Image: http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7379/201302020000.jpg]
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Tryke wrote on 2013-02-02 17:37
I wonder what that currency is. It looks like 300 for fangs, 150 for essences.
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0chocolachao0 wrote on 2013-02-02 19:59
I love the new inner armor! Those Yukatas are looking very nice too.
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Darkboy132 wrote on 2013-02-02 20:48
Quote from Tryke;1024416:
I wonder what that currency is. It looks like 300 for fangs, 150 for essences.
I'm betting Seals.
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Tryke wrote on 2013-02-02 21:45
How do the droprates for essences compare to say, manuscripts? There was an earlier picture of the new seal shop having those for 134 I think.
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Invertex wrote on 2013-02-03 04:14
Well, that's the Chinese version actually. If anyone has access to it, feel free to take a look if you want. Can't get confirmation now though.
I'm pretty sure these aren't seals, mainly due to the glitched text implying it's a story quest. I suppose I could look around the CN site, but I'm lazy.
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mjvindi wrote on 2013-02-05 23:48
I don't mind HSCing or sprint spamming, but any combat action that involves emotes (Kai rapid shots) or item spam (feather gliding) goes into the realm of too glitchy for me. On that note, I really think they should make Fiona's dodge at least as fast as Karoks. Not asking for iframes or being able to roll as fast as Blink or anything.
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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2013-02-06 04:33
Karok's roll can outrun his run, I believe :P
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mjvindi wrote on 2013-02-07 03:01
Yeah, would be nice if Fiona's roll was just as fast (once again, no invincible frames, just a bit faster than it currently is). It would make the timing dodges a lot more forgiving in lag filled 24 man raids.
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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2013-02-07 05:01
They really just need to fix their terrible 24-man servers. I know for a fact how much it costs per month to host a server with a great connection for something of this scale and for how much money this game pulls in, it's practically nothing. The only excuse for it is them cutting corners at every stop to give you just enough that it's functional. Then again, not a whole lot of the community takes 24-man raids seriously and I don't know how much maintenance and manpower is required for them to maintain their own game. Given how often they delay their maintenance and how badly they delay it when they do, probably more than they have.
I didn't even start writing this post with the intention of turning it into a Nexon shit talking post, I just hate them lol.
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Invertex wrote on 2013-02-08 18:55
http://vindictushq.com/archives/6018
New hairs, inners, and pets.
That nice hair that I kept going on about is Vella only. Oh well, least one of my characters gets it.