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Sapphireoath wrote on 2013-01-12 01:31
Just want to make sure my CPU isn't running hotter than it should, though the current temperature in my area right now is around 30º (HOT summer day ;P)
Each core is running around 77-82º, only programs running are MapleStory in the background (minimized right now), and Chrome, just to give an idea of the current state. Stock i7 950
[Image: http://puu.sh/1MBkc]
Couldn't find the CPU temperature, (using HWMonitor), is it CPUTIN?
[Image: http://puu.sh/1MBmW]
Edit: Usage is only at less than 15%
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Yanm wrote on 2013-01-12 01:36
Quote from Sapphireoath;1012757:
Just want to make sure my CPU isn't running hotter than it should, though the current temperature in my area right now is around 30º (HOT summer day ;P)
Each core is running around 77-82º, only programs running are MapleStory in the background (minimized right now), and Chrome, just to give an idea of the current state. Stock i7 950
[Image: http://puu.sh/1MBkc]
Couldn't find the CPU temperature, (using HWMonitor), is it CPUTIN?
[Image: http://puu.sh/1MBmW]
Edit: Usage is only at less than 15%
Unless they reach the 90's, they're fine. Even at 90c, it's still not THAT bad, but by then, you should try to find some way to make them cooler.
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Sapphireoath wrote on 2013-01-12 01:39
Quote from Yanm;1012765:
Unless they reach the 90's, they're fine. Even at 90c, it's still not THAT bad, but by then, you should try to find some way to make them cooler.
Just making sure, as I don't really know that much about the CPU temperatures and what is a "safe" maximum. Though with the amount of fans my case has, I would be surprised. But it's a really hot summer day, better safe than sorry ;) (speaking of, my case fans are only on Mid setting)
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Mystickskye wrote on 2013-01-12 05:50
It's a bit disconcerting given your light load. A CPU's maximum safe operating temperature depends on the design, for the i7 950 itself intel (conservatively) says under 67.9 C is safe though third person figures range around 80-100 C (thermal throttling apparently occurs close to 100 C). Errors can occur before thermal throttling though, a friend of mine had a Sandybridge rig which was causing serious errors in the high 80s.
Again, it's mostly that you're getting such temps under low load that's alarming. If you're feeling up to it you can try and run a CPU stress test to see how it performs, if things start to look bad then you can immediately halt it.
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Sapphireoath wrote on 2013-01-12 07:17
I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary, PC running smoothly and hasn't crashed or anything.
Edit: Ran Prime95, reached 99/100º nearly instantly. That really doesn't sound right, even for a stress test. (I ran the Small FFTs test using this guide:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/100352-hardware-stress-test-prime95.html)
Edit2: Any recommendations on aftermarket CPU fans? Looking at the
Thermaltake FrioOCK
or
Noctua NH-D14
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Mystickskye wrote on 2013-01-12 08:08
Quote from Sapphireoath;1012848:
I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary, PC running smoothly and hasn't crashed or anything.
That's most likely because you're not taxing it :p
Quote from Sapphireoath;1012848:
Edit: Ran Prime95, reached 99/100º nearly instantly. That really doesn't sound right, even for a stress test. (I ran the Small FFTs test using this guide: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/100352-hardware-stress-test-prime95.html)
Edit2: Any recommendations on aftermarket CPU fans? Looking at the Thermaltake FrioOCK
or Noctua NH-D14
This is the sort of result I expected, something's very well off here. Before you buy a new HSF combo though, you may want to check that the current HSF is properly installed (even moreso if you've done anything that might affect it's performance). If nothing is amiss then the usual HSF that's recommended is the Hyper 212 series, for its price it performs very well keeping even OCed systems running nice and cool. The Noctua D14 is regarded as the best of the best but it's awfully large and heavy as well as expensive.
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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2013-01-12 08:26
It's hotter idle than it should be and thus it makes sense that it's hotter under load than it should be. I'd dust it off, clean it up, and make sure it's put in properly (they may've messed up with the thermal paste or something) and see how it runs then. Oh, and check to make sure your heatsink/fan is alright too. If they are and it's still hot, I'd swap it out for a new one or something. If it's under warranty, they'll probably give you instructions.
I have an i7 from the same generation and it runs much cooler with the stock heatsink. And yeah, stress tests should not be pushing it up that high. That's at least 15-20 degrees hotter than it should be even under Prime95 testing. And idle, they should be sitting well under 50 degrees. 40 or less would not be unusual.
By the way, the PC can still run (seemingly) fine even if this is the case.
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Sapphireoath wrote on 2013-01-13 01:01
Quote from Mystickskye;1012873:
That's most likely because you're not taxing it :pThis is the sort of result I expected, something's very well off here. Before you buy a new HSF combo though, you may want to check that the current HSF is properly installed (even moreso if you've done anything that might affect it's performance). If nothing is amiss then the usual HSF that's recommended is the Hyper 212 series, for its price it performs very well keeping even OCed systems running nice and cool. The Noctua D14 is regarded as the best of the best but it's awfully large and heavy as well as expensive.
Anything that might affect performance, does disabling HyperThreading and Core Parking count?
Quote from RebeccaBlack;1012878:
It's hotter idle than it should be and thus it makes sense that it's hotter under load than it should be. I'd dust it off, clean it up, and make sure it's put in properly (they may've messed up with the thermal paste or something) and see how it runs then. Oh, and check to make sure your heatsink/fan is alright too. If they are and it's still hot, I'd swap it out for a new one or something. If it's under warranty, they'll probably give you instructions.
I have an i7 from the same generation and it runs much cooler with the stock heatsink. And yeah, stress tests should not be pushing it up that high. That's at least 15-20 degrees hotter than it should be even under Prime95 testing. And idle, they should be sitting well under 50 degrees. 40 or less would not be unusual.
By the way, the PC can still run (seemingly) fine even if this is the case.
First boot of the day, cores idling around 61º, the CPU Temp is 50º. Core #0 is jumping between 61º to 67/71º
The thermal paste is self-applied (built the PC myself), so it might be worth a check. I'll probably get a new fan first.
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Mystickskye wrote on 2013-01-13 09:37
I meant the performamce of the HSF, not the CPU. For instance you may have removed the HSF for some reason and re installed it without cleaning the contact surfaces and reapplying the thermal paste. Maybe you added/removed/modified other hardware and did something to affect the HSF. Maybe it's not properly installed (I dunno about the older series but the HSF on my Sandy Bridge left me wondering if I'd installed the thing properly or not). Definitely make sure you current HSF is working properly before springing for a new one.
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Sapphireoath wrote on 2013-01-13 10:37
Would the high heat also cause the "low performance" pop-up (the one that changes your windows theme to basic). Always seem to have that problem with BF3, no other game. Right now BF3 is open (minimized), CPU temp at about 80º, each core around 90º. Either way, there is a problem there ;( I'll try having a look at the fan tomorrow. I should have some thermal paste I used for another PC, just gotta find it...
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Angel wrote on 2013-01-14 12:11
Am in a bit of a rush so I didn't read the entire thread.
However I want to say that your temperatures are dangerously high and you need to fix the temps inmidiately.
You can do this by applying new thermal paste, or replacing the cooling entirely.
Intels stock fans suck balls, consider replacing it with a Scythe Mugen 3 Hardware Edition, it's won some awards beign the best price/quality.
I use one myself, my i5 3570k runs at 5 ghz, 65c load with push/pull cooling.
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Mystickskye wrote on 2013-01-14 13:07
Next time read the rest of the thread :p
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Valkyrio wrote on 2013-01-14 14:37
Three things I'd do before you commit yourself to buying a new fan:
1) If you've had this PC for a while, clean it out. Dust accumulates easily, specially inside computers that are on all the time.
2) Check to see that your fan is properly mounted. I've had decent results with stock fans, the issue is that sometimes they don't always stay locked in and require some tweaking every once in a while.
3) Make sure you're applying the paste properly. You said you built this PC yourself, so I hope you know that you don't want to apply anything more than a small amount (equal to about a grain of rice, for most pastes.)
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2013-01-14 17:28
Way too hot on idle
The stock intel fan by itself should be sufficient (assuming you dont overclock)
Ideally it should be like 40-50C
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Osayidan wrote on 2013-01-14 18:52
I have a i7 from that generation and with stock intel fan, when playing games like skyrim it doesn't go over 60ish. When idle it's between 20 and 30 depending on ambient temperature. Yesterday it was 18 degrees, since I had my window open and it's winter. So there's definitely something wrong.
After you've dusted and re-applied thermal paste, make sure the heatsink's fan is working properly. If you have fan control tools use that.
Worst case scenario is a defective CPU, seen that a few times where all conditions for a cool CPU are met but it still heats up, put another CPU into the same setup and the temps are as expected.