What is the best title for fighters? If you think chain/shock master, you're wrong

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Hitsugaya wrote on 2013-03-12 01:42

Note: All tested data are in screenshots in the spoilers, and if you don't like reading more than 2 line posts, then this isn't for you. Also, to some this is something that's obvious, however on my daily encounters I find people don't know any of this information, and preach to use chain master title because they see that it has more will, and don't truly know the power of these titles.

Anyway if reading is that hard for you, a simple summary would be:
Shock master/chain master barely increase dmg over charging strike master/focused fist master (you barely would notice). Charging strike master/focused fist master increase damage by the THOUSANDS for their respective skill. ~ therefore you can stop reading here if you don't want the proof.

As for everyone else; first, let's go over WHAT these fighter titles do. Believe it or not, fighter titles DO NOT add +30% dmg to your skill, it in fact multiplies. That is why people think chain master/shock master is better, but it is not. Chain mastery (skill) ALSO multiplies, not adds 30% dmg, just keep that in mind.
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R1 all fighter skills (with all titles) minus tumble and respite

Here is the max dmg and list of gear I tested with, NONE of these had reforges that increased dmg, such as elementals, I tried to be the least geared as humanly possible.
- 238 Max Dmg (with the +5 max dmg from fighter title included
- Will 493 (lvl 86, blacksmith destiny)
- Will with title: 508
Gear:
- Stock Spiked Knuckles (18~26)
- No other gear, the only thing worn was robe and stock knuckles
+30% from chain master r1
+30% from charging strike master title (+15 will & +15 str)
+30% from focused fist master title (+15 will & +15 str)
+150% critical dmg from rank 1 crit
(If r upgraded knuckles, would increase by an additional 50% for r5 or 62% for r6)
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Base skill multipliers
These are the skill's base multipliers before anything from masteries or so forth are added, note that this is 99% likely not the true multiplier you'll have simply because of chain mastery.
R1 Focused Fist: 400%~700% (max charge)
R1 Charging Strike: 400%
R1 Spinning Uppercut: 600%
R1 Somersault Kick: 700% (divided among 3 stages, 3 chances to crit)
R1 Drop Kick: 800%
R1 Pummel: 900% (divided among 3 stages, 3 chances to crit)
Note: All calculations are rounded down, so some of the tested numbers might be higher by a minute amount (1~2 dmg)
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To prove my point, I am going to first calculate the damage based on people's first assumption on how the fighter titles work, and that's adding 30% to the damage.
Calculating if adding simply onto the multiplier additively (first with charging strike title):
+30% from chain, +30% from title = +60% dmg or 460% charging strike dmg
With this in mind, considering i have no elemental reforges or fighter reforges, my max hit should NOT exceed 1,094 non-crit with title
Yet my max is 1,608 non-crit with title.

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Now if you calculate by using the multiplier as a multiplicative, 400% x 1.3 = 520% x 1.3 from title = 676% charging strike dmg.
The max hit recalculated for non crit is now 1,608. Which now makes sense by my tested max hit of 1,608.
Math: 238 (max dmg) x 6.76 (multiplier) = 1,608
Testing after 50+ charging strikes, not hitting past that max dmg, I concluded that 1,608 was my max.
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Calculating if adding simply onto the multiplier additively (with focused fist title):
If calculating additively, a full charge = 700%, +30% = 730%, and +30% = 760%. With this in mind I should NOT be able to hit past 1,808 with title, yet my non crit max with title is 2,814.

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If we calculate multiplicative, it would turn 700% into 910%, and the title would turn 910% into 1183%. Which means my non-crit max recalculated should be 2,815, which makes sense for my tested 2,814 max hit.
Math: 238 max dmg x 11.83 = 2,815
Testing, after 50+ focused fists, not hitting past that max dmg i concluded that tested 2,814 is my max, or near max hit.
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Conclusions:
In Game extensive Testing non crit/crit WITH title (Charging Strike): 1,608
First assumed non crit/crit WITH title (Charging Strike): 1,094/2,735 --> Additive Conflicts With Data
Recalculated crit based off multiplicitive: 1,608/4,020 --> Multiplicative CONFIRMED
In Game extensive testing non crit/crit WITH title (Focused Fist): 2,814
First assumed non crit/crit WITH title (Focused Fist): 1,808/4,520 --> Additive Conflicts With Data
Recalculated crit based of multiplicative: 2,815/7037 --> Multiplicative CONFIRMED
Hitsugaya wrote on 2013-03-12 01:43

Now, should u go for a dmg title? Or one of the above titles if you are a fighter mainly.
Lots of people say you should wear chain mastery/shock master title. I do NOT believe you should wear these titles if you are mainly a fighter.
Chain Attack Master: +10 Max Stam, +30 will (+10 max fighter dmg)
Shock Master: +15 Max Dmg
(Also as a side note, who connected rano and connous isn't that hard of a title to get anymore and it gives the following: 10 str, 30 will, 10 int, +5% crit; much better than chain attack master)
vs
Charging Strike Master: 30% charging strike dmg, 15 will, 15 str (+5 fighter&melee dmg)
Focused Fist Master: 30% focused fist dmg, 15 will, 15 str (+5 fighter&melee dmg)

Pros: Chain master title gives an additional 5 max dmg over the charging/focused master titles
Shock master gives an additional 10 max dmg over the charging/focused master titles
Chain/Shock master gives addition dmg to every other chain skill that is not your title
Shock master gives an additional 9 max dmg to melee/range (since i am melee/fighter, this would be a decent choice for me)
Cons: Chain master/Shock master CANNOT increase the damage in that magnitude that the master titles can, shock master/chain master barely increase
dmg by significant amount.

Here are calculations of what you will hit with each. Note: I didnt feel like i needed to take screenshots of the dropkick/uppercut with the charging/focused titles because i was lazy and feel like i didn't need to prove it with the picture after all the data i provided.

Charging Strike - 400% base multiplier, turns into 520% with chain mastery, turns into 676% IF title
Focused Fist - 400%~700% base multiplier (full charge), turns into 520%~910% with chain mastery, and 676%~1183% IF title
Spinning Uppercut - 600% dmg base, turns into 780% dmg with chain mastery
Drop kick - 800% dmg base, turns into 1040% dmg with chain mastery

With charging strike master title:
- Charging Strike: 1,608/4,020
- Focused Fist: 2,165/5,414
- Spinning Uppercut 1,856/4,641
- Drop Kick: 2,475/6,187
With focused fist master title:
- Focused Fist: 2,815/7,037
- Charging Strike: 1,237/3,094
- Spinning Uppercut 1,856/4,641
- Drop Kick: 2,475/6,187

Note: I'll calculate purely based off of shock master here since it gives the most pure max possible out of any other title.
With shock master title: (calculated off 248 max, 233 base +15 from title [+10 max over fighter titles])
- Focused Fist: 2,256/5,640 calculated max damage
(was too lazy to get screenshot of normal focused, so this is max crit, just divide by 2.5)

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- Charging Strike: 1,289/ 3,222 calculated max damage

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- Spinning Uppercut: 1,948/4,870 calculated max damage

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- Drop Kick: [COLOR="green"]2,579/6,447 calculated max damage

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Assessment: This of course was all based off my dmg, I'm not an amazing fighter, and I'm not wearing any gear and stock non-upgraded knuckles.
max hits of much much much higher can be achieved with good gear and better stats then me. HOWEVER, this is merely to show u fighter titles ARE better. (also the difference between the shock master title and fighter titles get much greater as your damage increases).
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Charging strike Master vs Shock Master.
- Charging strike master gains an additional 371 non crit and 926 critmax for charging strike over shock master title
- Shock master gains an additional 91 non crit and 226 crit max for Focused Fist over charging strike title
- Shock master gains and additional 92 non crit and 229 crit max for Spinning Uppercut dmg over charging strike title
- Shock master gains an additional 104 non crit and 460 crit max for Drop Kick over charging strike title

Focused Fist Master vs Shock Master
- Focused fist master gains an additional 559 non crit and 1,397 crit max for focused fist over shock master title
- Shock master gains and additional 52 non crit and 130 crit max for charging strike over focused fist master title
- Shock master gains and additional 92 non crit and 230 crit max for Spinning Uppercut dmg over charging strike title
- Shock master gains an additional 104 non crit and 460 crit max for Drop Kick over charging strike title

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Conclusion: Shock master has minimal gains over the master titles, yet the master titles increase the damage in the thousands for their respective skills (more apparent when you have more max).
Therefore, since you will be using mostly chain 1's, namely charging strike, I believe the master titles give an advantage.
I personally mostly use charging strike at least 5x more than any other skill, therefore charging strike was the ideal choice for me.
Focused fist I find is more annoying to use, especially full charge, but I still use it, and the damage potential with the title will be your HIGHEST hitting skill in all of your fighter skills.
FAQ:
Question: But what if fighter isn't my main form of combat, just my secondary?
Answer: Then in that case it would be better to either use another title, or a damage title depending on how much you use fighter.
Examples:
Melee/Fighter hybrid (about even); fighter titles are still ideal because titles give 15 str, however I myself am melee fighter and will choose shock master if I intend on using my swords more than my fighter.
Mage/Fighter hybrid (about even); I think it would be beneficial to use a title such as lightning/ice/fire master, or if you are mainly a blaze user magic master, but fighter titles can still be an option.
Range/Fighter hybrid (about even); I think a damage title like shock master is the best choice in this case. If you go fighter title, you get no range damage, and if you go sniper or something similar, you get no fighter damage.
Alchemy/Fighter hybrid (about even); If you are a flame burst user you need to maximize your flame burst however possible, therefore your gear is mainly formed around that. Your fighter most likely won't be your main form of combat because you need to maximize your flamer output, so I recommend chain cylinder master for the extra 10% chance, fire alchemy master or alchemy master if you can get it. However note that fire master only increases fire efficiency by 1%, not 10% like the title suggests.
Puppet/Fighter hybrid (about even); personally I think this hybrid is counter/productive, but puppet has good aoe and fighter is good 1v1, so it can be a strong combo. Again, I recommend a damage title, if you go fighter title the 15 str will however add to your puppetry, but you'll get more out of a damage title.
So, unless fighter is NOT your main form of combat, I suggest you use master titles, and don't believe people telling you chain master or whatever is better, because those people most likely don't know what these fighter titles actually do.
Question: Why didn't you test out the other 2 fighter skills?
Answer: The remaining skills somersault kick and pummel are separated into 3 parts and would be annoying to screenshot and get maxes of all 3 hits, and are generally unnecessary because I'm only really focusing on the chain 1 titles.
Question: What about the other fighter titles?
Answer: You don't typically use chain 2 and 3 skills as much as chain 1, and its just generally more worth it to use the titles on chain 1 skills because they give the biggest boost. For example, the spinning uppercut title (10% spinning uppercut dmg) increases the multiplier from 780% (w/mastery) to 936%. Compared to focused fist master which is 1183% I honestly don't think it's worth it. As for drop kick, increase is from 1040% (w/ mastery) to 1144%, again, not worth it and longer cool down. Basically focused fist and charging strike master give more DPS than the other fighter master skills.
Hitsugaya wrote on 2013-03-12 01:44

Just to show you a bit of a damage increase, I'll show you my damage in full (not complete) gear.
Gear:
- Fully upgraded champion knuckles, 41 will artisan, fire 4 reforge (no special upgrade) (+87 max & 33.3% extra dmg)
- Stout Avenger accessories x2 - +24 max
- Oblivion Dexterity Helm - +20 max
- Special Ambush Clothing - +17 max
- Fleet Viscount Boots - +8 max Note: I didn't rank my charge up yet :D EPIFAIL
- Wooden Needle Plate Cannon - +12 max
Max Damage: ~576 (in char window) x1.33 (766 because of reforge, doesn't show in char window) [a lot of numbers will be higher or lower because the ovature varies with good plays]
Charging Strike with title: Estimated ~ 5,178/12,945

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Focused Fist with title: Estimated ~ 9,061/22,654

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Spinning Uppercut: Estimated ~ 5,974/14,937

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Drop Kick: Estimated ~ 7,966/19,916

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So if I had to give last advice to fighters besides titles, I recommend getting R upgrades, because r upgrades grow as you grow. I also recommend bracer knuckles if you have trouble getting critical, and by trouble I mean over 100% crit. However if critical isn't a problem and you can achieve over 100% without bracers (which give an additional 19% critical increase) then get champions.

Are demonic knuckles worth it? Yes and no, while they can achieve ~112 max after normal upgrades, they unfortunately take a very long time to get. And even if you do get them, you're going to have to reforge them, and enchant. However champion and bracer knuckles have been coming from gachapons have speedy/heavy punch on them, and they have ones with r1 forges.

Also, I recommend getting all of the r1 forged gear you can get. It can be VERY expensive to rank your reforge to one. So my choice was getting r1 reforged champs or speedy heavy punch champs, I save money in the long run just going fist/violent on champs and spending less on fine reforges.

As for reforges, you should definitely get elemental on your knuckles, even level 2 is 11.1% damage. Ideally you want level 4+ though. Second best reforge is chain mastery dmg on your gloves, it gives +1% chain mastery damage per level for a max at level 10 (10%) for r1 reforge. Last, if you can get like maybe somersault kick or drop kick on your boots it'd be good as well. And if you get a r1 reforge helm and get no shield charge on it, it is one of most useful reforges, especially for fighters (non giant). Combine that with close range charge boots and you're golden.
Well congrats to anyone who read this far, it was more just to prove a point, hopefully I changed some people's minds.
Hitsugaya wrote on 2013-03-12 01:44

K done, the images are what really make this guide, and what took the longest part of testing, don't know when i can post them, but when i can i will.

[EDIT]: Images are posted
Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-12 01:52

FAQ:
Question: But what if fighter isn't my main form of combat, just my secondary?
Answer: Then in that case it would be better to either use another title, or a damage title depending on how much you use fighter.
Examples:
Melee/Fighter hybrid (about even); fighter titles are still ideal because titles give 15 str, however I myself am melee fighter and will choose shock master if I intend on using my swords more than my fighter.
Mage/Fighter hybrid (about even); I think it would be beneficial to use a title such as lightning/ice/fire master, or if you are mainly a blaze user magic master, but fighter titles can still be an option.
Range/Fighter hybrid (about even); I think a damage title like shock master is the best choice in this case. If you go fighter title, you get no range damage, and if you go sniper or something similar, you get no fighter damage.
Alchemy/Fighter hybrid (about even); If you are a flame burst user you need to maximize your flame burst however possible, therefore your gear is mainly formed around that. Your fighter most likely won't be your main form of combat because you need to maximize your flamer output, so I recommend chain cylinder master for the extra 10% chance, fire alchemy master or alchemy master if you can get it. However note that fire master only increases fire efficiency by 1%, not 10% like the title suggests.
Puppet/Fighter hybrid (about even); personally I think this hybrid is counter/productive, but puppet has good aoe and fighter is good 1v1, so it can be a strong combo. Again, I recommend a damage title, if you go fighter title the 15 str will however add to your puppetry, but you'll get more out of a damage title.
So, unless fighter is NOT your main form of combat, I suggest you use master titles, and don't believe people telling you chain master or whatever is better, because those people most likely don't know what these fighter titles actually do.

So what you're really saying is use shock master title. Thanks!
Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-12 01:52

FAQ:
Question: But what if fighter isn't my main form of combat, just my secondary?
Answer: Then in that case it would be better to either use another title, or a damage title depending on how much you use fighter.
Examples:
Melee/Fighter hybrid (about even); fighter titles are still ideal because titles give 15 str, however I myself am melee fighter and will choose shock master if I intend on using my swords more than my fighter.
Mage/Fighter hybrid (about even); I think it would be beneficial to use a title such as lightning/ice/fire master, or if you are mainly a blaze user magic master, but fighter titles can still be an option.
Range/Fighter hybrid (about even); I think a damage title like shock master is the best choice in this case. If you go fighter title, you get no range damage, and if you go sniper or something similar, you get no fighter damage.
Alchemy/Fighter hybrid (about even); If you are a flame burst user you need to maximize your flame burst however possible, therefore your gear is mainly formed around that. Your fighter most likely won't be your main form of combat because you need to maximize your flamer output, so I recommend chain cylinder master for the extra 10% chance, fire alchemy master or alchemy master if you can get it. However note that fire master only increases fire efficiency by 1%, not 10% like the title suggests.
Puppet/Fighter hybrid (about even); personally I think this hybrid is counter/productive, but puppet has good aoe and fighter is good 1v1, so it can be a strong combo. Again, I recommend a damage title, if you go fighter title the 15 str will however add to your puppetry, but you'll get more out of a damage title.
So, unless fighter is NOT your main form of combat, I suggest you use master titles, and don't believe people telling you chain master or whatever is better, because those people most likely don't know what these fighter titles actually do.

So what you're really saying is use shock master title. Thanks!
Hitsugaya wrote on 2013-03-12 01:58

So what you're really saying is use shock master title. Thanks!

I'm not saying that if you would read the guide... For example, in my gear and buffs i hit 22,950 focused fist crit, with the shock master title i would of only hit 17,654 with shock master title, get it now? Of course if you read guide you would of understood the point... You can gain immense amounts of damage for focused fist or charging strike by using those titles, or minimal amounts of damage but also able to branch out to other skills using shock master. If your melee/fighter i still strongly recommend to use fighter titles because they still give 15 str.

Hopefully you at least read the entirety of this smaller sized post, to realize the damage difference was almost 6~7k, a lot isnt it?

*btw, i did say at the top of the guide if you dont feel like reading, just read the first couple paragraphs*
Dracius wrote on 2013-03-12 02:12

[S]Now let's see if 'the Sniper' title is the best for Archery.[/S]
Mentosftw wrote on 2013-03-12 02:18

Wait wait wait.

Why so much work for something that everyone already knows?

I mean I respect that you actually went and did the work but really, we all knew it was either charging strike or focused fist master titles to use.

I've already calculated the damage percentages of the chain skills with their respective master titles.

Here's the list if you're too lazy to visit the page. It assumes the percentages for rank 1 -> rank 1 chain mastery -> master title.
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Human:
-Charging Strike: 400% -> 520% (676%)

-Focused Fist: 400% -> 520% (676%)
-Fully Charged: 700% -> 910% (1183%)

-Spinning Uppercut: 600% -> 780% (936%)

-Somersault Kick: 700% -> 910% (1092%)

-Dropkick: 800% -> 1040% (1144%)

-Pummel: 900% -> 1170% (1287%)

Elf:
-Charging Strike: 400% -> 480% (624%)

-Focused Fist: 400% -> 480% (624%)
-Fully Charged: 700% -> 840% (1092%)

-Spinning Uppercut: 600% -> 720% (864%)

-Somersault Kick: 700% -> 840% (1008%)

-Dropkick: 800% -> 960% (1056%)

-Pummel: 900% -> 1080% (1188%)

Giant:
-Charging Strike: 400% -> 560% (728%)

-Focused Fist: 400% -> 560% (728%)
-Fully Charged: 700% -> 980% (1274%)

-Spinning Uppercut: 600% -> 840% (1008%)

-Somersault Kick: 700% -> 980% (1176%)

-Dropkick: 800% -> 1120% (1232%)

-Pummel: 900% -> 1260% (1386%)
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Hitsugaya wrote on 2013-03-12 02:30

Wait wait wait.

Why so much work for something that everyone already knows?

I mean I respect that you actually went and did the work but really, we all knew it was either charging strike or focused fist master titles to use.

I've already calculated the damage percentages of the chain skills with their respective master titles.

Here's the list if you're too lazy to visit the page. It assumes the percentages for rank 1 -> rank 1 chain mastery -> master title.

I did the work simply because i meet many people every day that dont know this, so i figured i'd just give visual evidence of it, i had one guy that didnt believe me unless he saw it.
Plus this guide was posted quite some time ago on nexon forums, however i decided to re-post it on these, so it wasnt really "that much work", rather than i didnt want to put all that work i did to waste when i actually did make this guide.
Cookieknight wrote on 2013-03-12 02:46

I would say the best title for fighters is the one who connected rano and connous
Hitsugaya wrote on 2013-03-12 02:49

Quote from Cookieknight;1047133:
I would say the best title for fighters is the one who connected rano and connous

for one, shock master > who connected rano and connous, i get well over 100 crit, no need for 5 more. Next, the point is you can increase your charging strike and focused fist damage by a lot, in other words increasing your dps more than shock master would, especially if you have higher max.
Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-12 04:10

Quote from Hitsugaya;1047087:
I'm not saying that if you would read the guide... For example, in my gear and buffs i hit 22,950 focused fist crit, with the shock master title i would of only hit 17,654 with shock master title, get it now? Of course if you read guide you would of understood the point... You can gain immense amounts of damage for focused fist or charging strike by using those titles, or minimal amounts of damage but also able to branch out to other skills using shock master. If your melee/fighter i still strongly recommend to use fighter titles because they still give 15 str.

Hopefully you at least read the entirety of this smaller sized post, to realize the damage difference was almost 6~7k, a lot isnt it?

*btw, i did say at the top of the guide if you dont feel like reading, just read the first couple paragraphs*

If you're maining fighter or it's your only skillset, you're doing something wrong.

If you're talking about how to make your numbers for max damage bigger, you're preaching to the choir.

This isn't really anything that nobody didn't already know - And I would seriously laugh at anyone reccomending Chain Master as a useful title. Ha!
FallenDanny wrote on 2013-03-12 04:19

I appreciate the work you did, I will remember this for my giant.

Thank you!
Hitsugaya wrote on 2013-03-12 04:33

Quote from Yakumo Yukari;1047192:
If you're maining fighter or it's your only skillset, you're doing something wrong.

If you're talking about how to make your numbers for max damage bigger, you're preaching to the choir.

This isn't really anything that nobody didn't already know - And I would seriously laugh at anyone reccomending Chain Master as a useful title. Ha!

I can guarantee you a large portion of people still don't know this, and its helpful to see how useful the titles really are visually. If you just want to be rude/sarcastic and bash threads for no reason, then do it somewhere else.

Secondly, i said if it's not your MAIN form of combat, not your ONLY form of combat. So say i'm melee and i use melee more than fighter (fighter just for bosses), then fighter isn't my main form of combat. If i'm an alchemist and i use alchemy more, but fighter for mobility and high 1v1 damage output but still want a lot of flamer damage, fighter wouldn't be a MAIN form of combat.

But for me i use fighter just as much or maybe a bit more than i do my melee, so even though i'm a melee/fighter hybrid, i'm still more fighter than melee (hence why i got fighter grandmaster instead of warrior).

Again, stop misinterpreting what i'm saying and think it through before you post.

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