Rape

• Hanna wrote on 2013-03-31 23:33

  Quote from Ashikoki;1059412:

  
  
  You should scream for help, struggle, but never "confront". Better raped than dead. I've been to so many martial arts schools where girls gain unnecessary self confidence because they broke some wooden boards and can spar with a bigger man. Its never the same in a real fight. Don't ever jeopardize your life by overestimating yourself.

  
  Couldn't have said it better myself
  
  oh, the bolded is why I hate martial arts
• Yoorah wrote on 2013-03-31 23:54

  Quote from Ashikoki;1059412:

  Ahhh, I disagree with this to an extent. Martial arts are helpful for exercise, not for actual self defense. When you're a 5'3" girl being assaulted by a 6' 200lb guy, no amount of jujutsu will help you. Drunk and angry men have level 3 Heavy Stander and will superarmor anything you do to them. One flick of their wrist and your neck is snapped off.
  
  You should scream for help, struggle, but never "confront". Better raped than dead. I've been to so many martial arts schools where girls gain unnecessary self confidence because they broke some wooden boards and can spar with a bigger man. Its never the same in a real fight. Don't ever jeopardize your life by overestimating yourself.

  
  While you're technically correct, I think better context is needed. If you really are a tiny loli going against a huge, scary drunk rapist, then what you said is indeed true. But most rape cases are not like that. Many of them are date rape situations where proper self defence training can in fact turn the tide. Even more importantly, the ability and self-confidence would allow the girl to say no, where she would otherwise go with it due to being paralyzed with fear, letting the guy who may very well be a weak, cowardly loser take advantage of that.
  
  

  Quote from Hanna;1059427:

  why I hate martial arts

  
  Martial arts is more than just about self defence against big drunk men. It's about discipline, training to improve oneself, and fitness. This in turn builds self-confidence and gives you a greater feeling of self-worth in general. So don't hate. Go take some classes. :P
• Sumpfkraut wrote on 2013-03-31 23:56

  Quote from mageisfun;1059360:

  but rape is not an act of sexual desire, its an act of violence and aggression.

  
  While I do not disagree that women may dress as they want and do not want to imply anything else, I would like you to look at the excerpt from the German criminal statistics provided below. As a crime involving severe physical or mental force you're obviously gonna find that power is a universal aspect, but this hypothesis fails to explain why it is so extremely heavily biased towards young females.
  
  Please go here. The relevant fields are "Straftaten gegen die sexuelle Selbstbestimmung*" and "Vergewaltigung und sexuelle Nötigung**". Männlich means male, weiblich means female, the rest is clear or irrelevant.
  
  [SIZE="1"]*Crimes against sexual self determination
  **Rape and sexual coercion[/SIZE]
  
  

  Quote from Ashikoki;1059412:

  Ahhh, I disagree with this to an extent. Martial arts are helpful for exercise, not for actual self defense. When you're a 5'3" girl being assaulted by a 6' 200lb guy, no amount of jujutsu will help you. Drunk and angry men have level 3 Heavy Stander and will superarmor anything you do to them. One flick of their wrist and your neck is snapped off.

  
  They're not very drunk then. Also, have you only been to schools where they don't teach any lever techniques or anything more advanced than "hit, evade, hit, evade"? While it is plainly obvious that a fight is severely more dangerous to an average female than to an average man, all other things equal, I don't see how a well-trained female could not easily withstand an assault from an untrained and especially drunk male (who is normally neither 6 foot tall nor weighs 200 pounds). Obviously if the school fails to teach to assess your situation and react accordingly then that is indeed a huge problem and turns the lesson relatively pointless or even counterproductive -in particular when it's just a small few-hours course- but a different one.
• Kouki wrote on 2013-04-01 00:22
  It really depends on the people... Not all rapists are big, strong, or smart enough to bring a weapon.
  The same goes for the victim... not all are weak, tiny, or cowards.
  
  Of course if the person had a freaking flame launcher or something, that's a good reason not to try anything, unless he's a psychopath who would kill you either way.
  I think there are still cases where the man does not bring any weapon or have any athletic ability, though.
• Paradise wrote on 2013-04-01 15:26

  Quote from Fran;1059422:

  It is possible to snap their neck really quick and disarm them with some, but it does require skill and lots of practice, which most would not have the patience for.

  
  
  I've fought men twice, with them being serious about it
  i had the advantage to practice Tae Kwon Do, when they just fought by instinct , but even with that i got my part
  men can be pretty strong against an small girl like me, even when i can defend myself, i won't do it against a guy with a knife
  if anything , i'll hit n' run if the guy is disarmed or get distracted, since i run way faster than average people
  
  Guys get their muscles worked just by moving them, while girls have to actually work them out
  it's nature, and yes, it matters when fighting, as Ashikoki said with other words, it requires years and years of technique to equal an opponent's strength using just technique.
  
  About blaming the victim, we can't blame a victim since no one forces the rape, we should be able to go anywhere without the fear of being raped.
  
  now SOMETIMES there are places that are known as dangerous, but some people just like to challenge their parents by going there, or they just never listen...
  
  

  Quote from Fran;1059490:

  It really depends on the people... Not all rapists are big, strong, or smart enough to bring a weapon.

  
  
  when they aren't big/strong they always bring a weapon
  when they are not smart to bring a weapon, they are big and strong, and that's why they don't need a weapon,, they are the weapon.
  If they aren't big/strong and don't bring a weapon, they just won't have success, or won't have the guts to do anything to start with.
• Sumpfkraut wrote on 2013-04-01 21:47

  Quote from Paradise;1060505:

  I've fought men twice, with them being serious about it
  i had the advantage to practice Tae Kwon Do, when they just fought by instinct , but even with that i got my part
  men can be pretty strong against an small girl like me, even when i can defend myself, i won't do it against a guy with a knife
  if anything , i'll hit n' run if the guy is disarmed or get distracted, since i run way faster than average people

  
  Hmm, well then...
• MareneCorp wrote on 2013-04-01 21:50
  Not going to read 4 pages but leaving a couple of words that may have been said a billion times already.
  
  There's a lot of flaws with society and religion.
  Peace.
• Sumpfkraut wrote on 2013-04-03 08:14

  Quote from Paradise;1060505:

  I've fought men twice, with them being serious about it
  i had the advantage to practice Tae Kwon Do, when they just fought by instinct , but even with that i got my part
  men can be pretty strong against an small girl like me, even when i can defend myself, i won't do it against a guy with a knife
  if anything , i'll hit n' run if the guy is disarmed or get distracted, since i run way faster than average people

  
  I just remembered, I was once play-fighting with a former male friend, he was like 16, well-grown and relatively fit and had been training Karate for a few years and wanted to apply a throw, but he couldn't do it just because I applied my weight in a way that I guess would have destabilised him to hell if he did that. I'm sure there was a working technique for that situation though, maybe just not covered in his Karate lessons. Or maybe it was one of those retarded schools where they are all recreation and meditation and bullshit instead of actual fighting for your life.
  
  I guess having bad luck can happen to anyone, and physics fucks all equally.
• naomily wrote on 2013-04-26 07:53
  unless its consensual rape :point: