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Iyasenu wrote on 2013-04-01 03:39
Quote from Xemnas;1059862:
That's a completely different skill we'll never get. Most of it's damage is from the draining portion itself anyway.
Then occasionally you misjudge when its gonna end the skill and step past that invisible line and BOINK. :[
But okay, I hope that skill's Knockback doesn't get boosted at any rate.
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Kenero wrote on 2013-04-01 03:42
Quote from Iyasenu;1059871:
Then occasionally you misjudge when its gonna end the skill and step past that invisible line and BOINK. :[
But okay, I hope that skill's Knockback doesn't get boosted at any rate.
Speaking of which... the new alchemy formula affects monsters too.
Never before has an elite alchemists using flame burst with their insane HP be so scary. =/
You know how enemy alchemists love spamming that windblast? =/
Take a guess!
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JoeyDee9 wrote on 2013-04-01 03:42
Life Drains formula seems to be Old_formula+Lost_Hp*.2
This formula got all my damage with minimal error and after using life drain enough I can say that HP matters after drain...as in max deadly is more damage for life drain.
@Kaeporo They do seem a little late on this, It was posted fairly early on in the older thread. You hardly need a flame duratition reforge for combos though. Easily you can do the FB->Wind Blast->HB combo infinitely with r1 chain. Or you can just flame cancel to stall for some time. I love chain cylinder.
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qaccy wrote on 2013-04-01 04:07
Quote from Kenero;1059879:
Speaking of which... the new alchemy formula affects monsters too.
Never before has an elite alchemists using flame burst with their insane HP be so scary. =/
You know how enemy alchemists love spamming that windblast? =/
Take a guess!
It does? Really? Oh boy...because the Doppelganger's attacks don't already hurt enough. But aren't the only other alchemists who use anything besides WC and WB in like...storyline missions and Lingering Darkness? Maybe I don't run enough missions x_x
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Perfectio wrote on 2013-04-01 04:13
So uh, missions with alchemists are rather dangerous now. The SCC doppelganger can now swing for 4000 damage a hit at full health and the Water Cannons figure to be buffed too. I think that basic could be nearly impossible for a party of that level.
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Xemnas wrote on 2013-04-01 04:15
Quote from JoeyDee9;1059880:
Edit: Is that too hard to read? I love the color but not sure if it's hard on peoples eyes?
I can barely see it without highlighting it, if you could change it that'd be great.
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Kenero wrote on 2013-04-01 04:20
Quote from Perfectio;1059967:
So uh, missions with alchemists are rather dangerous now. The SCC doppelganger can now swing for 4000 damage a hit at full health and the Water Cannons figure to be buffed too. I think that basic could be nearly impossible for a party of that level.
[Image: http://i.imgur.com/LOQymAR.jpg]
Thanks to Soluna for the picture. Look at that damage from that windblast...
Luckily, Alchemy is magic-based, so that means magic defense and protection will help lessen damage.
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TrainAurion wrote on 2013-04-01 05:15
im jelly of their wind blast dmg. ._. Hope mine can be at least that strong in HM (i wish)
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Xemnas wrote on 2013-04-01 05:19
Quote from TrainAurion;1060095:
im jelly of their wind blast dmg. ._. Hope mine can be at least that strong in HM (i wish)
That was in basic.
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JoeyDee9 wrote on 2013-04-01 05:21
I'll work on Wind blast and other formulas on a later date, I hope this info suffices for tonight.
If they follow the same trend they all might be old_formula+current_stat*.2
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Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-04-01 05:24
Even with the old damage + stat*0.2 buff, is combat alchemy even going to be worth using compared to some of the other skillsets?
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Iyasenu wrote on 2013-04-01 06:32
Quote from Xemnas;1060101:
That was in basic.
That screenshot is in HM isn't it?
[Image: http://i.imgur.com/LOQymAR.jpg]
The rewards match exactly to what the wiki says for Other Alch HM.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-04-01 07:01
Quote from Kaeporo;1059849:
You guys must have fallen a bit behind the information curve if you're only now figuring that out. The Flame Burst duration reforge will essentially allow you to endlessly spam fully charged Flame Burst following the renewal.
Chain Cylinder may have received a rather nice buff but it only affects two skills. Alchemy is just as overspecialized as it's always been.
Anyone know what the master title has been changed to?
Duration reforge is nonexistent in the current form of NA
That or shitty luck.
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radionoise wrote on 2013-04-01 07:14
Quote from Aubog007;1060211:
Duration reforge is nonexistent in the current form of NA
That or shitty luck.
The epic list of reforges in mabinogi times only lists max and min damage reforges for flame burst too.
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Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-04-01 07:31
Quote from Aubog007;1060211:
Duration reforge is nonexistent in the current form of NA
That or shitty luck.
Flame burst duration reforge? What would that do?