So, uh...

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Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-04-19 13:38

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This new combat update with the new balance, piercing, axe mastery whatever the hell is confusing the hell out of me.

Can someone sum it up?
Claudia wrote on 2013-04-19 13:39

We're still figuring out balance stuff.

Haven't heard about the rest because we're all worked up/excited about the magic renewal and mopeds.
Milk wrote on 2013-04-19 14:08

Well I can do my best to sum up most of the info for you in this thread.

1: Nexon is releasing a new Talent called Druid that requires a rebirth card to access.
-When you rb into a Druid you will get 2x training for skills under the talents:
Magic
Cleric
Apothecary
2: There is apperently special skills that you can get while being rebirthed as a druid.
(not sure what they mean by this)
3: New Scooter Pet. (has boost skill unsure if its flamemare or regular boost)
4: Magic Got a nice buff:
Blaze got a damage buff (pretty sure that they didnt expect it to do this much and will most likely get nerfed because of its amazing damage atm)
Blaze can now be used with staffs
Thunder's delay period got shortened so it hits the target much faster.
All the past magic and stat updates from kms test got put into the live server. (unsure if balance was changed yet though)
Rain Caster is now more efficient and has less of a delay for rain.
Meteor Strike got a damage buff.

Alchemy was also changed in some way but everyone is focusing on Magic atm so there inst much info on how it is on the live server.
Icons new icons got released that signify a few new bard skills and what is most likely a new archery skill going to be released soon.

[Image: http://image142.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20130419/00/56596517201304190022193903314424206_000.jpg]

Pretty sure that I missed something.

Oh yeah and insta cast's cool down gets reduced by -2 seconds for every spell you hit a target with. (Making it really efficient to spam bolts on a target to help set up for the next double adv spell burst that you can now do.)

and Magic Weapon Mastery got buffed in terms of damage as well so bolts hit a lot harder now as well.
Milk wrote on 2013-04-19 15:03

Okay I figured out more info on the Druid Talent.
Apparently, Meteor Strike, Mobile Casting, and Instant Casting are all druid skills. I am unsure if you can get the skills without the use of the rebirthcard, (I hope Nexon doesn't force people to pay NX to access skills)
But Yeah the Druid Talent gives 2x training on all all the magic related skills as well as the new Druid skills.

Thanks to an image I saw that was posted by Punkey.
Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-04-19 15:06

Quote from Milk;1071415:
Okay I figured out more info on the Druid Talent.
Apparently, Meteor Strike, Mobile Casting, and Instant Casting are all druid skills. I am unsure if you can get the skills without the use of the rebirthcard, (I hope Nexon doesn't force people to pay NX to access skills)
But Yeah the Druid Talent gives 2x training on all all the magic related skills as well as the new Druid skills.

Thanks to an image I saw that was posted by Punkey.

You do not need the rebirth card to get the skills. All of this information was already available in the Zero thread. There is a quest for the Meteor Strike that involves killing 100 fire sprites, balrogs, and dragons.

The card allows you to bypass the quests and automatically obtain the skills.
Kendoza wrote on 2013-04-19 15:09

Quote from Milk;1071415:
Okay I figured out more info on the Druid Talent.
Apparently, Meteor Strike, Mobile Casting, and Instant Casting are all druid skills. I am unsure if you can get the skills without the use of the rebirthcard, (I hope Nexon doesn't force people to pay NX to access skills)
But Yeah the Druid Talent gives 2x training on all all the magic related skills as well as the new Druid skills.

Thanks to an image I saw that was posted by Punkey.

Dammit King ninja'd me.
Milk wrote on 2013-04-19 15:10

Thanks for clarifying that for me guys. :3 Im tempted to finish off my magic tab now.
radionoise wrote on 2013-04-19 15:28

Quote from Milk;1071397:
Alchemy was also changed in some way but everyone is focusing on Magic atm so there inst much info on how it is on the live server.

Alchemy is the same as it was in test server mostly, and the changes were mostly convenience so no one feels that compelled to try it out.

Shock was nerfed from 30 second duration to 20 second duration.
Magenera wrote on 2013-04-19 17:12

Quote from Kingofrunes;1071416:
You do not need the rebirth card to get the skills. All of this information was already available in the Zero thread. There is a quest for the Meteor Strike that involves killing 100 fire sprites, balrogs, and dragons.

The card allows you to bypass the quests and automatically obtain the skills.

So basically you need to buy a card. Won't matter much to me, I like the mage talent as I get a nice boost in int for mana shield.
Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-04-19 18:01

Quote from Magenera;1071465:
So basically you need to buy a card. Won't matter much to me, I like the mage talent as I get a nice boost in int for mana shield.

No, you do not need to buy the cards. Did you not read what I fucking said? you can get the skills without the card. The card just makes it super easy to get them.
Claudia wrote on 2013-04-19 18:09

She's just expressing her frustration with the pay2win aspect of it, which is nothing new.
radionoise wrote on 2013-04-19 18:12

I think they probably meant it like "oh, so with those annoying quests you might as well need to buy the card" rather than saying you literally need to buy it.
Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-04-19 18:13

Quote from radionoise;1071527:
I think they probably meant it like "oh, so with those annoying quests you might as well need to buy the card" rather than saying you literally need to buy it.

Oh I see...well I'll probably buy the card either way :P
Magenera wrote on 2013-04-19 18:29

Quote from Kingofrunes;1071513:
No, you do not need to buy the cards. Did you not read what I fucking said? you can get the skills without the card. The card just makes it super easy to get them.

I did read what you said. You think anyone going to do kill 100 dragons, when you can buy a fucking card and get the skill from there? They pretty much spelled it out, buy the card or do g3 and g8 100 times, or kill field boss with million(?) hp 100 times. Let's not play stupid here, Nexon and DevCat pretty much told everyone to buy a damn card for the skill, or don't expect to get the skill for quite some time if ever. Depending on cost of the card most will treat it like a premium or a basic card to get the skill.
FallenDanny wrote on 2013-04-19 18:39

Quote from Magenera;1071539:
I did read what you said. You think anyone going to do kill 100 dragons, when you can buy a fucking card and get the skill from there? They pretty much spelled it out, buy the card or do g3 and g8 100 times, or kill field boss with million(?) hp 100 times. Let's not play stupid here, Nexon and DevCat pretty much told everyone to buy a damn card for the skill, or don't expect to get the skill for quite some time if ever. Depending on cost of the card most will treat it like a premium or a basic card to get the skill.

I'm pretty sure that during the white/black dragon raid there are 100's of little squishy dragons.

Edit: not sure if they count for the quest.

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