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Vanof wrote on 2010-08-11 07:44
hay grats. You're a pure range elf, and you just paid out a whole 10m for a wing bow. Or wait, you might have synthesized it, or christened a friend or acquaintance to synth for you!
GJ! :2thumb:
Now you're probably going to ego it, right?... RIGHT?!:mad:
As long as I've been playing range, I've found that every bow serves a different purpose. Speed bows for AR spam(human only), and long range bows for magnum speed.(aim speed in general if you're an elf, probably) Most bows have high stat sacrifices if it excels in any area.(IE: composite bows fails at damage, long bow fails at balance, llb fails at crit, so on)
But, look at the Wing Bow ego!
It has the highest range over anything in the game, giving you amazing aim speed. It has a fast speed rate, giving humans the ability to spam AR like a short bow, and a decent crit rate to get the job done.(Up to 55-60% at level 50, albeit, you can't get 88% like you can with two +10% crit enchants and a crit upgeade)
Only having about an estimated 20 less max damage than the llb at level 50, I wonder:
Is the ego Wing Bow the ultimate bow ego? :lol: Is it the gladius of bow egos?
(also: Good luck repairing it without NX)
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Bearhumper wrote on 2010-08-11 07:56
At this point in time, no other bow ego can compete =)
Also Glad's are like, third par in the sword ego department. =P
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-08-11 08:24
Quote from Bearhumper;121119:
At this point in time, no other bow ego can compete =)
Also Glad's are like, third par in the sword ego department. =P
Really?
what's first rate for swords?
Besides, the cat is glad that LLB egos aren't the best.
Take that AR
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Aubog007 wrote on 2010-08-11 10:10
Wingbow is... An awkward weapon unless you like magnum spamming.
Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;121147:
Really?
what's first rate for swords?
Besides, the cat is glad that LLB egos aren't the best.
Take that AR
Glad's are the most balanced out of all of them.
Great min. Good max. Good Crit. Neither bad nor great in all stats.
Top in my book.
Bastard is Bad min. Awesome max. Bad crit.
Muramasa is Alright min. Slightly better than good max. Slightly better than good crit.
And i do mean VERY slightly.
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Beepuke wrote on 2010-08-11 11:43
Who doesn't like mag spamming? I love mag spamming and I'm a slowranger human. :( I think there are some good points to any ego bow. LLB is the all arounder, ring bow is the max damage way, and wing bow is the max distance/crit path.
As for one handed egos, think about what you'll be doing most with them. Probably pairing it with another sword and wming for max dps, right? In that sense, the bastard sword is probably the best one handed ego. IF yanlingdao comes out, it'll beat the pants off any other one handed ego, but I doubt it'll be introduced to NA. :(
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pataterose wrote on 2010-08-11 12:34
Really?
what's first rate for swords?
dustin sword for 2 handed and the chinese sword we dont have yet for 1 handed v:
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-08-11 12:59
Yea, Wing Bow is pretty much the ultimate ego bow in terms of stats and cost. If you got one for 10m, you got yourself a really good deal.
Saying it is a gladius of bow egos is just insulting it. Gladius will never reach the cost or stats as a Wing Bow.
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Zeo wrote on 2010-08-11 15:46
Wing Bow ego, is good for ranged distance, and PvPing, but it's kinda bad in damage terms.
But I still would suggest Wing Bow ego over all other bows, tho. =P
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Serathx wrote on 2010-08-11 15:50
Dustin sword is like...only a tiny, tiny bit better than a plain 2H.
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Chillax wrote on 2010-08-11 15:52
Quote from Serathx;121368:
Dustin sword is like...only a tiny, tiny bit better than a plain 2H.
You're forgetting the high crit rate of a Dustin Sword.
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Serathx wrote on 2010-08-11 15:57
Quote from Chillax;121371:
You're forgetting the high crit rate of a Dustin Sword.
Durp you're right. :X
Yeah, Dustin Swords have much higher crit.
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Vanof wrote on 2010-08-11 18:22
Quote from EndlessDreams;121270:
Yea, Wing Bow is pretty much the ultimate ego bow in terms of stats and cost. If you got one for 10m, you got yourself a really good deal.
Saying it is a gladius of bow egos is just insulting it. Gladius will never reach the cost or stats as a Wing Bow.
Well... wouldn't want to insult it, now would I? :blood:
What I meant when I made the comparison was that it had good stats in every area, and was versatile. I think the gladius ego fits the same roll.
Except... people would actually go for that max damage with a sword ego, with an ego bow I think that's less likely.
Quote from Zeo;121362:
Wing Bow ego, is good for ranged distance, and PvPing, but it's kinda bad in damage terms.
But I still would suggest Wing Bow ego over all other bows, tho. =P
Well, the damage is only about 30 lower than the ring bow.(JP wiki estimates 109 as the level 50 damage) Buttt, if you're taking your ego that high, 60 crit beats out that damage loss to any archer, I think.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2010-08-11 18:31
Quote from pataterose;121263:
dustin sword for 2 handed and the chinese sword we dont have yet for 1 handed v:
i thought you would know the ultimate combo was a maxed out ego bsword and a willow/horn beholder sword!
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Batt wrote on 2010-08-11 18:39
I disagree.
I know everyone is starting to finally be able to get a Wing Bow because of synth, but I've had mine ever since the Owl Event.
When I got mine, I knew what this bow could do, and I knew how rare it was. I also knew that it was going to be egoable someday. I looked at the few stats it had posted up on the wiki and thought hard about it for 2 long months before deciding whether to upgrade it or store it in my bank until the day came where I could ego.
In the end I decided to upgrade.
So whoopie, it gets 2600 range as an ego, where the llb only get 2500. That's not enough difference for me to care about the other stats, like the crit, which I upgraded mine for.
68% crit after upgrade and before enchants.... That's still more than the ego version will ever get. I keep hearing people say how with enchants you can get 88% on it. For the record, if you're an elf and you do some serious spamming, you can find enchants to boost it up to 93% critical (but this only applies to elves, like myself).
And yes, sure the damage on the ego vs. upgraded+enchanted is more superior, but I still love my critical more. And it seems like the ego LLB still gets more max dmg than ego Wing Bow. So congratulations to the rarest bow in the game, you fail in two places. Your damage vs. ego LLB dmg, and your critical compared to your upgraded counterpart.
The only thing it has going for it is the range (which I would gladly sacrifice 100 extra range for the extra damage of the LLB), and it's second shot knock-back (which a Ring Bow also has, and also gets more damage than the ego Wing Bow, I believe.)
Wing bows are HIGHLY overrated.
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Vanof wrote on 2010-08-11 19:31
You're probably disregarding it's fast attack rating. You're an elf, so it makes little difference to you. But, if you're a human the speed at which you can fire successive AR shots is dependent on your weapon's attack rating. A bow that you can aim and shoot fast with is invaluable in a way I cannot express. It's the reason people don't like llb egos as humans, because they're so slow.