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A Petition for Mabination to have an MML Database/Library to the Tools Section




Now with the reasons stated, the following additions should be added if a library were to exists:





Now with that said, I hope to have an active MML database within Mabination. I tried long ago to make an MML Library, but due to the character limit, it was not possible. With an active MML database, it will be maintain by the community for future communities to do.



Thanks for reading,
Kenero
  • Osayidan wrote on 2013-05-09 13:42
    Already have plans to make one when I finish fixing up the other tools :skip:
  • Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-05-09 13:47
    Dammit why did mabimml shut down again. I thought it was still up but now it's just a stupid forum and no longer has all the song scrolls. I am sad. All the good mml sites are being shut down.

    I have a bad feeling about it if we keep it up. Every other Mabinogi MML site has disappeared off the internet.

    Osay if some asshat company has you tear down the Mabi MML you eventually put up, can you inform us of who the fuckers are so we know who to go after. Seeing that nobody else has mentioned the who's and why's of the disappearance of the mabi MML's.
  • Kenero wrote on 2013-05-09 13:53
    Quote from Kingofrunes;1085150:
    Dammit why did mabimml shut down again. I thought it was still up but now it's just a stupid forum and no longer has all the song scrolls. I am sad. All the good mml sites are being shut down.

    I have a bad feeling about it if we keep it up. Every other Mabinogi MML site has disappeared off the internet.


    Like I said... the many reasons is a combination of: Lack of Community, Lack of Effective Administration, and Lack of Fame.

    As Mabination, we would be the best candidate for it because:

    1. We're a strong active community. Probably the biggest in Mabinogi in terms of fan forums. We host not only a good community, but future information, guides, and other player activities that not only stimulate interest in our forums, but also help bring new members in.

    2. We have a good administration. Osay is active as ever and we have a good team dedicated with hard working moderators ensuring that the forums stay civil. With the recent addition of Ashi to the administration, it shows Mabination is doing quite well and with the maturity of the community, forms a good grounds for constant growth.

    3. We have fame. Mabidata and Mabination are the two sites players go to when they need future information or looking for guides that is not covered traditionally by the wiki. This has been known for many years and hopefully for many years to come and we really have the best site to lay the groundworks of an MML library.

    4. We have a diverse active community. We have bards who does take request in the life section but would enjoy the grounds of an MML library.


    With that said, I hope I answered your curiosity king! And welcome back to America. :D
  • Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-05-09 13:57
    But MabiMML was very active last I checked which is why I'm curious. Also that doesn't explain why Nexon themselves decided to shut down their composer.

    I still fear there's some legal issues there more so than lack of community or administration.
  • Kenero wrote on 2013-05-09 14:01
    Quote from Kingofrunes;1085154:
    But MabiMML was very active last I checked which is why I'm curious. Also that doesn't explain why Nexon themselves decided to shut down their composer.

    I still fear there's some legal issues there more so than lack of community or administration.


    Nexon makes money off their games.

    We don't.

    So we should be fine.
  • Osayidan wrote on 2013-05-09 14:01
    Did the ones that got shut down have an audio preview of the song?
    Other than the reasons Kenero mentioned, audio previews are probably the main reason. I think that's why that Japanese (or what it korean) MML site that was super popular a few years ago got shut down. I don't intend to put any sort of audio preview for them.
  • Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-05-09 14:04
    Quote from Osayidan;1085157:
    Did the ones that got shut down have an audio preview of the song?
    Other than the reasons Kenero mentioned, audio previews are probably the main reason. I think that's why that Japanese (or what it korean) MML site that was super popular a few years ago got shut down. I don't intend to put any sort of audio preview for them.


    I believe so. Mabi MML also had audio preview which is also why it might have gotten transformed into a forum instead.
  • Kenero wrote on 2013-05-09 14:10
    Quote from Osayidan;1085157:
    Did the ones that got shut down have an audio preview of the song?
    Other than the reasons Kenero mentioned, audio previews are probably the main reason. I think that's why that Japanese (or what it korean) MML site that was super popular a few years ago got shut down. I don't intend to put any sort of audio preview for them.


    Quote from Kingofrunes;1085160:
    I believe so. Mabi MML also had audio preview which is also why it might have gotten transformed into a forum instead.


    If that is the case, it should be fine.
  • Royale wrote on 2013-05-09 19:26
    both mabimml and nexon composer's shut down was mainly because of copyright complaints, so if you plan on hosting a mml site better protect yourself against it and have a disclaimer of some sort.
    also someone downloaded every mml on the nexon composer and made a zip of it, that file is still out there somewhere and someone on nexon forums probably still have it.
  • Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-05-10 08:40
    Quote from Royale;1085297:
    both mabimml and nexon composer's shut down was mainly because of copyright complaints, so if you plan on hosting a mml site better protect yourself against it and have a disclaimer of some sort.
    also someone downloaded every mml on the nexon composer and made a zip of it, that file is still out there somewhere and someone on nexon forums probably still have it.


    That's the kind of legal problems I was worried about :(
  • Halfslashed wrote on 2013-05-17 18:52
    Quote from Royale;1085297:
    both mabimml and nexon composer's shut down was mainly because of copyright complaints, so if you plan on hosting a mml site better protect yourself against it and have a disclaimer of some sort.
    also someone downloaded every mml on the nexon composer and made a zip of it, that file is still out there somewhere and someone on nexon forums probably still have it.


    Yeah, some hardcore googling found me that ZIP.

    I support the concept of an mml library, just make sure to put a good disclaimer.
  • Hanna wrote on 2013-05-17 18:56
    may i have that zip :oops:
  • Kenero wrote on 2013-05-17 19:42
    Quote from Hanna;1090678:
    may i have that zip :oops:


    Me too. I would like to archive it in some form until Nation MML is up.
  • Hanna wrote on 2013-05-17 20:48
    Quote from Kenero;1090700:
    Me too. I would like to archive it in some form until Nation MML is up.


    he sent me the mediafire link but it was deleted :(