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Ithiliel wrote on 2013-05-28 06:56
http://news.yahoo.com/abandoned-chinese-baby-rescued-toilet-pipe-030817289.html
BEIJING (Reuters) - Firefighters in eastern China have rescued an abandoned newborn baby boy lodged in a sewage pipe directly beneath a toilet commode, state television reported, in a case which has sparked anger on social media sites.
There are frequent reports in Chinese media of babies being abandoned, often shortly after birth, a problem attributed variously to young mothers unaware they were pregnant, the birth of an unwanted girl in a society which puts greater value on boys or China's strict family planning rules.
In the latest case the infant was found in the sewage pipe in a residential building in Jinhua in the wealthy coastal province of Zhejiang on Saturday afternoon after residents reported the sound of a baby crying, state television said late on Monday.
Firefighters had to remove the pipe and take it to a nearby hospital, where doctors carefully cut around it to rescue the baby boy inside, the report said.
The child is in a stable condition and the police are looking for his parents, state television added.
The case has been widely discussed on China's Twitter-like service Sina Weibo due to the graphic nature of the footage, with calls for the parents to be severely punished.
"The parents who did this have hearts even filthier than that sewage pipe," wrote one user.
I'm glad to hear the baby is alive.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-05-28 10:37
This story has left a very dirty aftertaste in my mouth.
People these days
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Kaeporo wrote on 2013-05-29 21:52
Quote from Ithiliel;1096581:
http://news.yahoo.com/abandoned-chinese-baby-rescued-toilet-pipe-030817289.html
I'm glad to hear the baby is alive.
If the baby was a girl, would anyone have cared?
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Hanna wrote on 2013-05-29 21:55
Quote from Kaeporo;1097520:
If the baby was a girl, would anyone have cared?
this is what I want to know
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Osayidan wrote on 2013-05-29 22:14
I read in the paper this morning that the mother is claiming she accidentally gave birth on the toilet and that's how it happened...
I find that pretty hard to believe.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-05-30 12:12
Quote from Osayidan;1097529:
I read in the paper this morning that the mother is claiming she accidentally gave birth on the toilet and that's how it happened...
I find that pretty hard to believe.
And guess what, she's not being charged for a crime.
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truefire wrote on 2013-05-30 12:31
Quote from Kaeporo;1097520:
If the baby was a girl, would anyone have cared?
Considering it's China and all, I'm surprised the baby WASN'T a girl.
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Claudia wrote on 2013-05-30 13:08
That remains to be seen. She was a poor woman who never went to college, so she likely lacked the money/means to find out the sex of her child (sex-selective abortions and ultrasounds are theoretically banned in China, but we all know how the family planning folks act around there). The more sympathetic part of me can understand/(believe an itty bit) that she panicked and honestly had no idea what she was doing. She was alone in a bathroom with no one to help her give birth to her child.
Unfortunately, it's more likely that she knew she wouldn't be able to provide for him and flushed him away (there's no "no questions asked" policy in China). She should be punished but I'm not sure if straight jail time is the answer.
On a more heartwarming note, people have been dropping off all sorts of baby supplies and many families have come forward looking to adopt Baby No. 56.
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2013-05-30 14:56
Quote from Kaeporo;1097520:
If the baby was a girl, would anyone have cared?
Quote from truefire;1097924:
Considering it's China and all, I'm surprised the baby WASN'T a girl.
Jesus people enough with the stereotype. I don't assume all Americans are fat and ignorant, maybe you ought to consider most educated people in China do take gender equality seriously. If this takes place in US you guys would only blame the individual who does it, but if it's in China, this becomes a general trait for the population. Do you think shit goes on in Alabama or Mississippi should represent what Americans do generally? No? Then maybe you should stop considering actions of poor and desperate people in China as a general representation China.
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2013-05-30 15:38
Quote from TLCBonaparte;1097965:
Jesus people enough with the stereotype. I don't assume all Americans are fat and ignorant, maybe you ought to consider most educated people in China do take gender equality seriously. If this takes place in US you guys would only blame the individual who does it, but if it's in China, this becomes a general trait for the population. Do you think shit goes on in Alabama or Mississippi should represent what Americans do generally? No? Then maybe you should stop considering actions of poor and desperate people in China as a general representation China.
That's a really poor example.
Being fat and ignorant is a modern and universal trait and its becoming more common in modern societies. It's actually desirable to be fat and ignorant everywhere. You have excess of decent food and money in exchange for spending the majority of your life on a 40+ hour work week. China's old culture is noticeable because it's still there in a large amount. The middle aged people and elderly are having a hard time adjusting to the universal, modern culture because of how dramatically different it is. They have a negative opinion of the people born in the 1980s and after.
Patriarchy is consider primitive but it's still large in East Asia, especially China with the huge countryside. Not desirable to imitate
It doesn't help that Chinese tourism is all "let's visit the historical sites of China, and the countryside" or that they hire foreigners to tutor children in poor villages.
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2013-05-30 17:45
Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;1097971:
That's a really poor example.
Being fat and ignorant is a modern and universal trait and its becoming more common in modern societies. It's actually desirable to be fat and ignorant everywhere. You have excess of decent food and money in exchange for spending the majority of your life on a 40+ hour work week. China's old culture is noticeable because it's still there in a large amount. The middle aged people and elderly are having a hard time adjusting to the universal, modern culture because of how dramatically different it is. They have a negative opinion of the people born in the 1980s and after.
Patriarchy is consider primitive but it's still large in East Asia, especially China with the huge countryside. Not desirable to imitate
It doesn't help that Chinese tourism is all "let's visit the historical sites of China, and the countryside" or that they hire foreigners to tutor children in poor villages.
I know some villages outside urban area still are sexist and value boys over girls, I am not saying that's not true. I am upset because people on the forum take it as general behavior in China. I stick by my Mississippi example, I don't take the racism there as an accurate representation of white Americans' view on racial status, neither should everyone here take lower class's sexism as general representation of Chinese standard of sexism. If they do, that would means they are viewing negative stereotype as a common trait among a race, ethnic group or community, which means they are racist.
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Hanna wrote on 2013-05-30 17:50
Quote from TLCBonaparte;1097965:
Jesus people enough with the stereotype. I don't assume all Americans are fat and ignorant, maybe you ought to consider most educated people in China do take gender equality seriously. If this takes place in US you guys would only blame the individual who does it, but if it's in China, this becomes a general trait for the population. Do you think shit goes on in Alabama or Mississippi should represent what Americans do generally? No? Then maybe you should stop considering actions of poor and desperate people in China as a general representation China.
I love how you hate the Japanese for the cruelty done to your ancestors and yet are pulling the racist card here
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2013-05-30 18:08
Quote from Hanna;1097996:
I love how you hate the Japanese for the cruelty done to your ancestors and yet are pulling the racist card here
I don't hold negative stereotype towards Japanese. And to be frank, I have done some thinking, and I decide to forgive them. It wasn't easy for me, but I don't need their apology, it's simply a healthy choice on my part. I hope you guys didn't belittle the hurt I felt regarding Nanjing Massacre, but it is the internet, you guys are still good people, it's understandable sometime people can't fully grasp cultural differences. I do hope in the future you guys can at least respect the difference in culture even if you don't agree with it. That's all I have to say on the matter.
If you are ready to talk about the actual matter instead of insulting me now, please proceed.
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Mentosftw wrote on 2013-05-30 18:17
Quote from Osayidan;1097529:
I read in the paper this morning that the mother is claiming she accidentally gave birth on the toilet and that's how it happened...
I find that pretty hard to believe.
I guess that's why they're called mud babies.
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Claudia wrote on 2013-05-30 19:09
lol TLC are you trying to deny the bias against infant females in china
because if you are
you're fucking hilarious
(yes, it's gotten better since the 80's, but look at the male/female ratio in China and pretty much all of East Asia - definitely no bias there, right?)