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Lunamaniac wrote on 2013-06-04 20:49
Quote from Hellraven;1100772:
there's a penalty(damage deduction) when you only put on the guard cylinder, penalty reduces as rank goes up (rank 2= -12%)
I've read the whole thread but I'm not 100% as to whether this reduction is applied only to alchemy or towards all damage output. It seems almost too good to be true that I can have all the utility of alchemy while being able to use other skills to full effect.
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Dracius wrote on 2013-06-04 20:55
Okay so...
Elemental Wave itself has a cooldown of 5 or so minutes?
You can also charge up your orbs (Guard shield only, or a new alchemy addition in general?) and use Golden Time to get Elemental Wave automatically?
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mageisfun wrote on 2013-06-04 21:03
I'm loving this. My alchemy won't be useless again now! Time to go make a demonic cylinder.....but which one......
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nandattebayo wrote on 2013-06-04 21:03
Quote from Dracius;1101090:
Okay so...
Elemental Wave itself has a cooldown of 5 or so minutes?
You can also charge up your orbs (Guard shield only, or a new alchemy addition in general?) and use Golden Time to get Elemental Wave automatically?
Golden Time has the cd of 5-3 mins. Other than that, you've pretty much got it.
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wildk wrote on 2013-06-04 21:03
Quote from Tropa;1101086:
That is true.
it takes quite a bit to charge up the elementals though.
each use of Watercannon adds 2% into the Water ball, the full duration of Flameburst adds 2% to the Fire ball and so on.. I'll make the list later.
I trust other alchemy skills such as shock would add to both the fire and wind element? Or does charging balls only work with the basic wc/fb/wb/sb? Because spamming windblast and sandburst might take a while e.e
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Tropa wrote on 2013-06-04 21:07
Quote from wildk;1101096:
I trust other alchemy skills such as shock would add to both the fire and wind element? Or does charging balls only work with the basic wc/fb/wb/sb? Because spamming windblast and sandburst might take a while e.e
From what I saw in the stream, Life drain adds 8% to wind and 2% to everything else.
I'm sure all alchemy skills will count to it.
I will test this out when KR live finishes downloading.
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ewire123 wrote on 2013-06-04 21:13
Can anyone confirm that you are be able to wear these weapon while wearing Cylinder shield :
-Cylinders
- Wands
- Swords
- Maces
- Axes
and as a Giant :
-Lances
-2hand-sword
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Zeo wrote on 2013-06-04 21:30
There's some rumors going on that only Alchemy skill that doesn't work with Guard Cylinder is Heat Buster.
Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?
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nandattebayo wrote on 2013-06-04 21:48
Quote from Zeo;1101108:
There's some rumors going on that only Alchemy skill that doesn't work with Guard Cylinder is Heat Buster.
Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?
http://blog.naver.com/fzimon6666/60193298788
First video. They are clearly using a basic guard cylinder.
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ewire123 wrote on 2013-06-04 21:51
Quote from nandattebayo;1101124:
http://blog.naver.com/fzimon6666/60193298788
First video. They are clearly using a basic guard cylinder.
I think she mean when using sword + guard cylinder or something, is it able? Cylinder + cylinder is obvious.
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Zeo wrote on 2013-06-04 21:52
Quote from ewire123;1101125:
I think she mean when using sword + guard cylinder or something, is it able? Cylinder + cylinder is obvious.
Yes, what I was asking for... Guard Cylinder + something else that is not a cylinder (like sword or wand).
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ewire123 wrote on 2013-06-04 21:53
Quote from Zeo;1101126:
Yes, what I was asking for... Guard Cylinder + something else that is not a cylinder (like sword or wand).
Still haven't seen video with people equipping a sword/wand with the guard cylinder yet, im having some doubt
Quote from ewire123;1101100:
Can anyone confirm that you are be able to wear these weapon while wearing Cylinder shield :
-Cylinders
- Wands
- Swords
- Maces
- Axes
and as a Giant :
-Lances
-2hand-sword
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Slayerj wrote on 2013-06-04 22:02
Quote from ewire123;1101129:
Still haven't seen video with people equipping a sword/wand with the guard cylinder yet, im having some doubt
Last night Herro had a sword with the guard cylinder. Save the doubt, it's a shield that's also a cylinder. It's just another hybrid weapon.
But srsly, you asked if you can put a cylinder on with the shield....that's how you use ele wave in the first place. >.>
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Robinhood wrote on 2013-06-04 22:07
Now go test shock on those munch munch dragons.
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Zeo wrote on 2013-06-04 22:15
Quote from Slayerj;1101136:
Last night Herro had a sword with the guard cylinder. Save the doubt, it's a shield that's also a cylinder. It's just another hybrid weapon.
But srsly, you asked if you can put a cylinder on with the shield....that's how you use ele wave in the first place. >.>
But my question is that can you use Heat Buster with Guard Cylinder and one-handed weapon (that is not a cylinder), because the person in video who dual-wields the cylinders uses Heat Buster after using Elemental Wave... but it may be that Heat Buster won't work after using Elemental Wave if you only have the Guard Cylinder with some other non-cylinder weapon, not dual-wielding the cylinders.
So. I want the confirmations on that please.