Shock, Frozen Blast and Heat Buster revamp?

• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-04 10:31

  Quote from Tropa;1100774:

  Yup
  
  Though the only skills effected are
  
  Heatbuster
  Shock
  Frozenblast
  Lifedrain
  Raincasting
  Summon Golem
  
  I wanna see if it affects Barrier spikes.

  
  I feel like doing the wave like in stadiums.
  
  Sorry to rain on your parade and to bust your hopes to fine powder, but this skill has a cooldown.
  
  
  Feels like a spike to my chest though, however this buff summoned up a lot of energy to resume alchemy.
  Although i wouldnt be shocked if the skills are horrible still. Or even worse, that ranking them would drain the life outta ya.
  
  But until then, alchemy sits like a relic, frozen in time by a barrier of inferiority.
• Kendoza wrote on 2013-06-04 10:33

  Quote from Aubog007;1100786:

  I feel like doing the wave like in stadiums.
  
  Sorry to rain on your parade and to bust your hopes to fine powder, but this skill has a cooldown.
  
  
  Feels like a spike to my chest though, however this buff summoned up a lot of energy to resume alchemy.
  Although i wouldnt be shocked if the skills are horrible still. Or even worse, that ranking them would drain the life outta ya.
  
  But until then, alchemy sits like a relic, frozen in time by a barrier of inferiority.

  
  
  That's almost.. poetic.
  
  I love it. Still though, this should make alchemy quite a blast to use.
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-06-04 10:36

  Quote from Aubog007;1100786:

  I feel like doing the wave like in stadiums.
  
  Sorry to rain on your parade and to bust your hopes to fine powder, but this skill has a cooldown.
  
  
  Feels like a spike to my chest though, however this buff summoned up a lot of energy to resume alchemy.
  Although i wouldnt be shocked if the skills are horrible still. Or even worse, that ranking them would drain the life outta ya.
  
  But until then, alchemy sits like a relic, frozen in time by a barrier of inferiority.

  
  
  I want to punch you so fucking hard.....and at the same time give you rep....
  
  Anyway, you're forgetting that, assuming you don't have to do these with the shield cylinder, that they get even more of a buff via having the shield cylinder at higher ranks...I think. Seeing that (and this is going off at the fact someone said that rank 2 is -12% alch dmg without a cylinder on) at rank 1 without a cylinder it's -10% alch dmg, so with a cylinder...it's gota be some kinda dmg buff.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-04 10:38

  Quote from Slayerj;1100790:

  I want to punch you so fucking hard.....and at the same time give you rep....
  
  Anyway, you're forgetting that, assuming you don't have to do these with the shield cylinder, that they get even more of a buff via having the shield cylinder at higher ranks...I think. Seeing that (and this is going off at the fact someone said that rank 2 is -12% alch dmg without a cylinder on) at rank 1 without a cylinder it's -10% alch dmg, so with a cylinder...it's gota be some kinda dmg buff.

  
  
  Yes, that's the only thing i enjoy about this update is the cylinder shield, the skills themselves seem lackluster but that shield is absolutely glorious.
  
  
  Keep in mind, i am EXTREMELY skeptical about alchemy. But dat shield, it's perfect.
  If it boosts everything with the appropriate cylinder, oh my god.
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-06-04 10:41
  Also, like someone mentioned in the stream, Herro was critting 700s on black dire wolves in tail with rank F WC and next to nothing into alch from the looks of it, so that whole buff to alch dmg that was mentioned SOMEWHERE must be great too~ XD;
  
  EEP! I hope this doesn't make tower cylinders worthless...T,T;
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-04 10:43

  Quote from Slayerj;1100792:

  Also, like someone mentioned in the stream, Herro was critting 700s on black dire wolves in tail with rank F WC and next to nothing into alch from the looks of it, so that whole buff to alch dmg that was mentioned SOMEWHERE must be great too~ XD;

  
  
  I am not a particular fan of the base alchemy skills all that much (the 4 elemental ones) because you were excessively penalized.
  
  I was mainly a golemer/LD alchemist. They have been wary as hell to buff golems after their fiasco.
  
  And it seems by prior trend, anytime someone overhypes something, we are all let down, anytime we are underhyped, we are unexpectedly happy.
  So i will remain underhyped.
  Except for that shield, can finally get rid of my composite.
  
  And giants resume being master race with lances and other crap.
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-06-04 10:56

  Quote from Aubog007;1100793:

  I am not a particular fan of the base alchemy skills all that much (the 4 elemental ones) because you were excessively penalized.
  
  I was mainly a golemer/LD alchemist. They have been wary as hell to buff golems after their fiasco.
  
  And it seems by prior trend, anytime someone overhypes something, we are all let down, anytime we are underhyped, we are unexpectedly happy.
  So i will remain underhyped.
  Except for that shield, can finally get rid of my composite.
  
  And giants resume being master race with lances and other crap.

  
  
  XD true I guess, though it's good to know all golems have AI's now so they're like mini agro absorbers that fight without you needing to use a skill to make them walk around on their own~ (Don't hate me puppet users! I still love my puppets just as much! T,T)
• Tropa wrote on 2013-06-04 11:19
  The shield is awesome, I'm so getting the top-tier shield day-1.
  
  As for the skills, nothing is stopping me from saving up ap after I cap Mana and Gunner. nothing.
  
  I'm very glad they gave golem's their own AI, that alone buffs their usefulness, as well as the fact they gave them Taunt and two new Golem skills.
  
  
  I'm so happy my Alchemy tab is capped!
• M wrote on 2013-06-04 15:19

  Quote from Tropa;1100801:

  The shield is awesome, I'm so getting the top-tier shield day-1.
  
  As for the skills, nothing is stopping me from saving up ap after I cap Mana and Gunner. nothing.
  
  I'm very glad they gave golem's their own AI, that alone buffs their usefulness, as well as the fact they gave them Taunt and two new Golem skills.
  
  
  I'm so happy my Alchemy tab is capped!

  
  
  Yeah, Golem might actually be useful even as just a distraction. I mean even just summoning a golem while using archery or fighter on a boss seems like it would be good, especially for something like merrow with a bunch of HP.
  
  Also, I'm guessing the crazy looking golem is the golem summoned with the new buff skill used on alchemy, I wonder if anyone has tested if it is actually tanky or not because people said it was weaker than snow golems I think(?)
• Tropa wrote on 2013-06-04 15:31

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1100889:

  Yeah, Golem might actually be useful even as just a distraction. I mean even just summoning a golem while using archery or fighter on a boss seems like it would be good, especially for something like merrow with a bunch of HP.
  
  Also, I'm guessing the crazy looking golem is the golem summoned with the new buff skill used on alchemy, I wonder if anyone has tested if it is actually tanky or not because people said it was weaker than snow golems I think(?)

  
  
  You summon snow golems, but with the effect of Elemental wave, it makes it into that armored colossus, I'd think it'd have higher damage/tankability.
  
  Even I and many freinds of mine stated this before, If golems had their own AI, it'd be very useful.
  
  Plus new golems have Taunt!
• radionoise wrote on 2013-06-04 15:33
  The new golem does not have higher damage. It's probably more defense oriented, since it's dmg and smash rank are lower.
• Tropa wrote on 2013-06-04 15:43

  Quote from radionoise;1100897:

  The new golem does not have higher damage. It's probably more defense oriented, since it's dmg and smash rank are lower.

  
  
  Hmm, still pretty useful, an aggro magnets are the best.
• Milk wrote on 2013-06-04 15:47

  Quote from Tropa;1100905:

  Hmm, still pretty useful, an aggro magnets are the best.

  
  
  Well Alchemy always excelled at controlling aggro and heavy disables / supoorts. I like the Idea of a defensive wall that aggross everything.
• Herro wrote on 2013-06-04 16:04

  Quote from Milk;1100906:

  Well Alchemy always excelled at controlling aggro and heavy disables / supoorts. I like the Idea of a defensive wall that aggross everything.

  
  
  and has taunt with an ai
• Xeno wrote on 2013-06-04 16:20
  So does this mean Shock doesn't cause horrible position lag anymore? Because honestly the skill is useless as long as that bug exists besides lowering Merrow's prot with Brionac.