Regarding Mana Crystalization

• Anwell wrote on 2013-06-05 20:55
  So I've been wandering if anything has change regarding the MC in the recent KR update, but I have yet to see much mention of it.
  
  So far I know that you can only make a crystal from 5 charges now, and I'm unsure if that is confirmed or not.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-06-05 21:04

  Quote from Anwell;1101804:

  So I've been wandering if anything has change regarding the MC in the recent KR update, but I have yet to see much mention of it.
  
  So far I know that you can only make a crystal from 5 charges now, and I'm unsure if that is confirmed or not.

  
  
  Even now, on the NA servers you NEED 5 charges for any magic.
  
  And I don't think anything else changed here, as far as power is concerned.
  
  
  
  Not sure about KR for that matter.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-06-05 21:14

  Quote from Anwell;1101804:

  So I've been wandering if anything has change regarding the MC in the recent KR update, but I have yet to see much mention of it.
  
  So far I know that you can only make a crystal from 5 charges now, and I'm unsure if that is confirmed or not.

  
  
  Mana Crystallization gains 100% of the spell damage, but it still cannot crit.
  
  Nor does it benefit from elemental masteries, wand damage, INT damage, etc.
  
  So you're just doing the spell as if you had 0 INT, no masteries, and non crit.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2013-06-05 21:18
  Its Ice Spear damage doesn't reduce after each chain either though. Not that it is useful...
• Anwell wrote on 2013-06-05 21:24

  Quote from Kenero;1101817:

  Mana Crystallization gains 100% of the spell damage, but it still cannot crit.
  
  Nor does it benefit from elemental masteries, wand damage, INT damage, etc.
  
  So you're just doing the spell as if you had 0 INT, no masteries, and non crit.

  
  
  When your making magic crystal doesn't your magic damage and INT apply into the crystals though? So all the benefits are applied when making them instead of after using a crystal.
• Deletion wrote on 2013-06-05 21:25

  Quote from Iyasenu;1101808:

  Even now, on the NA servers you NEED 5 charges for any magic.
  
  And I don't think anything else changed here, as far as power is concerned.
  
  
  
  Not sure about KR for that matter.

  
  IS and Thunder require 1 charge.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-06-05 21:28

  Quote from Anwell;1101821:

  When your making magic crystal doesn't your magic damage and INT apply into the crystals though? So all the benefits are applied when making them instead of after using a crystal.

  
  
  INT and Magic Damage %+ only influences if you can make a crystal above the caster's rank... aka if the caster is rank A, but with enough bonus, can produce rank 9-8 crystals.
  
  It has no bearings on the actual damage when used.
  
  And with the INT Magic having the ability to charge as fast if not faster than their alchemy counterpart, they almost have no use.
• Tetosan wrote on 2013-06-05 21:28

  Quote from Deletion;1101823:

  IS and Thunder require 1 charge.

  
  
  You're a KR player?
  
  
  If not you're wrong, NA needs 5 charges for all int magic.
• Anwell wrote on 2013-06-05 21:30

  Quote from Kenero;1101824:

  INT and Magic Damage %+ only influences if you can make a crystal above the caster's rank... aka if the caster is rank A, but with enough bonus, can produce rank 9-8 crystals.
  
  It has no bearings on the actual damage when used.
  
  And with the INT Magic having the ability to charge as fast if not faster than their alchemy counterpart, they almost have no use.

  
  
  Does it influence it if it has equal rank to the caster as well? Also, do the crystals affect Instant Cast by lowering it's cooldown like the regular spells.
• Deletion wrote on 2013-06-05 21:30

  Quote from Tetosan;1101825:

  You're a KR player?
  
  
  If not you're wrong, NA needs 5 charges for all int magic.

  
  Huh...
  When did they change it?
• Kenero wrote on 2013-06-05 21:49

  Quote from Anwell;1101827:

  Does it influence it if it has equal rank to the caster as well? Also, do the crystals affect Instant Cast by lowering it's cooldown like the regular spells.

  
  
  Instant Cast is only for regular magic.
  
  Crystals made from Instant Cast do not get any special benefit.
  
  Why are you so fixated in mana crystals? They are long dead items, much more so with magic speed reduction stacking properly.
• Anwell wrote on 2013-06-05 22:03

  Quote from Kenero;1101832:

  Instant Cast is only for regular magic.
  
  Crystals made from Instant Cast do not get any special benefit.
  
  Why are you so fixated in mana crystals? They are long dead items, much more so with magic speed reduction stacking properly.

  
  
  No I meant if using crystal magic would reduce instant casting's cooldown like 1 thunder crystal equal -2 sec cooldown on IC.
  
  I know that Ice Spear Crystal doesn't degrade over chains and that party members can attack them, add that with MC's 100% damage and magic revamp, wouldn't it's usefulness be better than before? It would also benefit in conserving mana if I chose to. [I am pretty lazy when it comes to making mana potions.] I also like the idea of being able to sell high grade magic crystals and putting those SM reward magic crystals to some use.
  
  With the Alchemy Guard, an Alchemist Mage seems like a pleasing idea. All the new alchemy skills also seem to be capable to assists magic even, like using the new golem to taunt while a mage charges. Elemental Wave Forzen Blast to give them time to cast a spell, and even Hydra lowers magic def/prot and movement speed.
• uoi100 wrote on 2013-06-05 23:12

  Quote from Anwell;1101834:

  No I meant if using crystal magic would reduce instant casting's cooldown like 1 thunder crystal equal -2 sec cooldown on IC.
  

  
  But it takes ridiculously long to load the crystal.
  
  

  
  I know that Ice Spear Crystal doesn't degrade over chains and that party members can attack them,

  
  I don't think party members can attack frozen mobs from ice spear, I'm saying this because I've tried using it and it ends up becoming untargetable unless you flame burst it.
  
  

  
  With the Alchemy Guard, an Alchemist Mage seems like a pleasing idea. All the new alchemy skills also seem to be capable to assists magic even, like using the new golem to taunt while a mage charges. Elemental Wave Forzen Blast to give them time to cast a spell, and even Hydra lowers magic def/prot and movement speed.

  
  I agree that this idea helps mage / alchemist hybrids, I tend to use raincasting for my soaked enchant.
• Tetosan wrote on 2013-06-06 01:48

  Quote from Deletion;1101828:

  Huh...
  When did they change it?

  
  
  urrr Around G17S3 or S4 not too sure anymore, they changed it when they gave us the Hidden Talent skills
• Jacqli wrote on 2013-06-06 02:25
  My question is why do these dang things even exist? I mean...What's the point? The crystals have, and always will, be inferior to pretty much everything else. The concept was decent at first, but they just have like no use except to mess around.
  
  Yet these crystals continue to exist, taking up the position as mission 'rewards'. :I