Petition To Pardon Edward Snowden As A 'National Hero'

• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2013-06-25 13:01

  Quote from Evaris;1110830:

  Quite honestly at this point there is so much corruption in the US government I feel a revolution is likely necessary. Hell the original revolution started for less reasons than we have now from the last decade, with the Patriot act and 2012 NDAA more or less completely removing the bill of rights in the mind of the government. (which shouldn't work as the Constitution is supposed to supersede any laws which are not amendments to the constitution itself. But the government ignores this.)
  
  Aside from this, I consider Manning a hero too. The fact is crimes are crimes, and if it is a crime to reveal a crime the government or military has committed, there is a serious problem with the system of government. In the end, it is people such as Snowden and Manning who give me at least some hope in humanity still, what little left I have.
  Consider this quote;
  
  "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
  
  -Albert Einstein

  
  
  No
  The whole "right to privacy" is a "first world problem" that comes with better technology.
  
  http://www.reddit.com/r/revolution/comments/1fe0ql/what_will_it_take_for_us_to_unite_and_overthrow/cag2ds4
  
  Oh, and Manning doesn't follow whistleblower procedures. A whistleblower only leaks documents relevant to corruption.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-25 13:22

  Quote from Kaeporo;1110821:

  I don't see Edward Snowden as being any more of a "national hero" than Bradley Manning, disregarding the instability of the latter.
  
  Perhaps he did mean well, the media isn't twisting what could be an elaborate hoax, and the government is in the wrong. Would you see the United States face the Arab Spring? Food for thought. I'm conflicted about this issue but i'll side with him facing criminal charges, having accomplished his objective of leaking information while knowing the costs entailed.

  
  
  I guess being around the government like i have...
  I guess we share the same opinions on this matter.
• Osayidan wrote on 2013-06-25 14:48
  I'm entirely in favor of him having to go to trial for breaking the law and releasing the information that he was in no position to legally release.
  It's the results of the trial (or that he probably won't even get one and find himself in Guantanamo for the next 60 years) that's worrying.
  Any judges that want to keep their jobs will have to find him guilty. If he's found innocent the government will force another trial.
  And at the end of the day regardless of the results of the trial, the government gets away with everything.
• Evaris wrote on 2013-06-26 06:30
  [video=youtube;7PxEuYUUMJI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PxEuYUUMJI[/video]
• Yoorah wrote on 2013-06-27 11:40
  So, as you might imagine the US got pissed at Hong Kong about them letting the leaker fly out of the country despite the arrest warrant. HK was supposed to comply with it as per agreement, after all. HK finally came out with an official statement regarding that, and it's pretty hilarious.
  
  

  Hong Kong blames Edward Snowden release on U.S. paperwork
  
  Hong Kong officials say the U.S. government got National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden's middle name wrong in documents it submitted to back a request for his arrest.
  ...

  
  Article: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/27/us-edward-snowden.html
  
  Regardless of your stance on this matter, you've got to admit that this is rather amusing.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-06-27 11:51
  That is highly amusing. *chuckles*
  
  The US can't do jack shit to Hong Kong either, so they'll just have to stay mad :P
• Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2013-06-27 12:10
  Ha! You go Hong Kong, you da man.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-27 13:18

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1113099:

  That is highly amusing. *chuckles*
  
  The US can't do jack shit to Hong Kong either, so they'll just have to stay mad :P

  
  
  If they agreed upon it, there's a lot of things the US can do.
• Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2013-06-27 22:50
  Apparently Obama has given a statement that they will not be using military force to bring down the plane Snowden is on. They want to catch him "Within the confines of the law". I guess to try and make people go "Oh, well they're doing it legally, so they must be the good guys!"
• Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2013-06-30 09:43
  http://www.albanytribune.com/28062013-the-world-says-yes-to-snowden-no-to-obama-oped/
  I love Putin's comment about talking to the US. “It’s like shearing a piglet. There’s a lot of squealing and very little wool.”
  
  This was also great.
  

  [Image: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1013041_683825131634878_2114302146_n.jpg]

  
  
  It seems that facing the US threatening their entire country and everyone in it, the president of Ecuador has reversed his previous statements and is now claiming that the consul at the embassy made a mistake and that Snowden will likely not be given refuge. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ecuador-president-snowden-cant-leave-moscow
• Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2013-07-02 09:32

  One week ago I left Hong Kong after it became clear that my freedom and safety were under threat for revealing the truth. My continued liberty has been owed to the efforts of friends new and old, family, and others who I have never met and probably never will. I trusted them with my life and they returned that trust with a faith in me for which I will always be thankful.
  
  On Thursday, President Obama declared before the world that he would not permit any diplomatic "wheeling and dealing" over my case. Yet now it is being reported that after promising not to do so, the President ordered his Vice President to pressure the leaders of nations from which I have requested protection to deny my asylum petitions.
  
  This kind of deception from a world leader is not justice, and neither is the extralegal penalty of exile. These are the old, bad tools of political aggression. Their purpose is to frighten, not me, but those who would come after me.
  
  For decades the United States of America has been one of the strongest defenders of the human right to seek asylum. Sadly, this right, laid out and voted for by the U.S. in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is now being rejected by the current government of my country. The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person. Without any judicial order, the administration now seeks to stop me exercising a basic right. A right that belongs to everybody. The right to seek asylum.
  
  In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.
  
  I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed at the efforts taken by so many.
  
  Edward Joseph Snowden
  
  Monday 1st July 2013

  
  
  http://rt.com/news/snowden-peskov-russia-asylum-525/
  
  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/01/edward-snowden-letter-president-ecuador
  
  Updates.
• SKochiya wrote on 2013-07-02 11:12
  I keep feeling sorry for this guy every time I read about him, been chased all over the place.
  
  Governments shrugged off any sort of FUD but when this one man brings it up, they all want him dead.
  (At least at this point, I think that's what they want to do when they catch him)
• Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2013-07-03 03:04
  US nearly kills Bolivian president after accusing him of harboring Snowden on his plane which caused countrys to deny it entrance for refueling out of fear of US retaliation.
  
  http://news.yahoo.com/bolivian-leaders-plane-rerouted-snowden-fear-222538590.html
• Compass wrote on 2013-07-04 23:28
  Damn, niggas like Jack Baeur god damn being all sneaky and shit.
  I want a summer blockbuster movie about this guy next year. It'll fucking make millions.
• Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2013-07-06 06:24
  http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/06/uk-usa-security-venezuela-idUKBRE96500620130706
  
  Venezuela has offered Snowden asylum to get away from the terroristic actions of the US government in defiance of all the threats made by the US. However how he is going to get to Venezuela with no flights going there from Moscow and most of Europe refusing to let any plane with him on board enter its airspace remains a mystery.
  
  Nicaragua and Bolivia have joined Venezuela in offering Snowden asylum, claiming that US attempts to blockade his freedom such as the call to Ecuador which made the president of that country "mysteriously" change his mind about giving Snowden asylum only strengthen his case for asylum, proving that the US has no respect for international laws.
  
  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/07/us-attempts-block-snowden-bolster-case-asylum?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter